Russell Martin

[Raj]

So I don't really know too much about Martin, except hes banging Lucy Pinder( lucky cvnt).

Fair enough he has perceived  to have failed at Saints but realistically  who wouldnt?

So what's the pros and cons of him coming here and why are most so set against him?

( Serious question  from me for a change)

[Guppys Love Child]

13 minutes ago, Shane said:

oh no he doesn’t play with wingers? FFS like you say thats our strongest position

 

I think it could possibly be. Once both are fit, I don’t think it's a too far off to claim that used properly Mavididi and Fatawu may be the best, or close to it in the Championship. 

 

Let's use this as an option, Attacking teams scores you goals, and good wingers contribute towards this.

 

Pi$$ing around with the ball in front of our own 18Yrd box, inflating our possession stats doesn't put the ball in the oppositions net.  Lets not waste this option  just because the manager is hell bent on stubbonly following his philosophy of possession based snorefest football and nullifying his wingers...  it's a waste.

 

[LVFox]

10 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Yeah he’s famously a very adapatable manager, forget plan B what about Plan Z?

You, and others, are right to point that out. But its simple, he's walking into a team that can play his style of football but also has a huge amount of flair on the wings. If he can't see that and adapt his play accordingly he will never succeed as a coach. If he can, it's as good a group of players that he could hope to walk into.

 

This is a huge job for Russell Martins career

[Foxdiamond]

7 minutes ago, LVFox said:

You, and others, are right to point that out. But its simple, he's walking into a team that can play his style of football but also has a huge amount of flair on the wings. If he can't see that and adapt his play accordingly he will never succeed as a coach. If he can, it's as good a group of players that he could hope to walk into.

 

This is a huge job for Russell Martins career

Agreed. Not exactly hopeful if Martin appointment confirmed but will give him a chance to surprise me. Perhaps he can learn from the negatives at Soton 

[Grebfromgrebland]

Whatever, we have him now until at least christmas.  I hope he does well.

[les-tah]

Not a fan cause the football style is just horrible especially upon promotion unless your world class all over the field However I will support who ever gets the job as i feel its the right thing to do ultimately. I will turn on him quickly though if he hasn’t learnt his lessons like he says he has especially if he turns our best assets like prince Fatawu into a a shit winger.

[Blueman1967]

One word on this no, even in our position, we could get somebody better

[volpeazzurro]

On 22/05/2025 at 13:31, LVFox said:

He's basically Enzo, but without the inventive patterns of play, sexy accent or incredible outfit on first visit to Seagrave.

Poundshop Enzo 🤣

[Claridge]

1 hour ago, Shane said:

oh no he doesn’t play with wingers? FFS like you say thats our strongest position

 

Certainly isn't our weakest

[Donwebbio]

Because we don't have an effective DoF and a seemingly absence of any other boardroom competence, any new manager needs to have talent and knowledge in sustainable recruitment (manager/DoF hybrid). It is the no.1 priority for clubs of our size to remain competitive and remain the right side of PSR. Buying talent with good athletic profiles, good character profiles at good ages (u25), for the best prices and financial packages with high ceilings should be the basis of 90% of our business (allow 10% margin for "experience") before getting 2 seasons of performance out of them before selling for a profit and reinvesting. Under Pearson & Puel we had that system working seamlessly (in spite of Rudkin) and formed the basis of successful, trophy-winning teams. You can pinpoint the start of the decline, if not with the death of Vichai, then the appointment of Rodgers who veered off the sustainable recruitment model and somehow talked the club into thinking it no longer needed to sell their assets to compete (€230M purchases, 1 player sold for profit Fofana)

 

Discounting his tIme at MK Don's, Martin's recruitment at Swansea was good from the 5 transfers involving fees (bought and sold values) - 

 

Flynn Downes - €1.7 - € 10.65 

Michael Obefemi- 2m - 4m

Andy Fisher- 0.475 - still there - 

Nathan Wood - 465k - 3.5m - 

Harry Darling - 2.5m - still there - 

 

His recruitment at Southampton is obviously dubious as the team performed terribly, but his signings there look thought out with 90% under 25 and players like Harwood-Bellis, Ronnie Edwards, Cameron Archer, Mateus Fernandes and Sugawara should all hold or increase in value and have good careers in the game.

 

What is harder to justify with Martin is the ponderous playing style, or poundshop Pepball, which has definitely had its day. If it is Martin, we can only hope he has enough self-awareness to adapt his style a bit to get us fans on side. So even if the football and results are not in line with expectations, maybe our terrible recruitment policy will at least start to turn a corner....until the next sacking obviously!

Edited 26 May 2025 by Donwebbio

[volpeazzurro]

Dear Top.

 

So we beat Southampton 9-0 and you bought half of their defence. 

 

Southampton get relegated with an almost record low performance record and you're considering hiring their sacked manager that was responsible? 

 

Your father seemed to have been a very astute businessman. I think he would have spotted a clue there.

 

[Clogger_]

5 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Dear Top.

 

So we beat Southampton 9-0 and you bought half of their defence. 

 

Southampton get relegated with an almost record low performance record and you're considering hiring their sacked manager that was responsible? 

 

Your father seemed to have been a very astute businessman. I think he would have spotted a clue there.

 

Dear Top,

 

LEAVE NOW. Drag Rudkin out with you.

[Winstonthedog]

4 hours ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

To give them a year of the same style that their parent club plays 

Tippy tappy bore the crap out of you type of football ... we need signings for the longer term and not to fill gaps to give experience for other clubs to benefit from .. no more signings loan or otherwise of the standard recently... Good younger players with ambition and promise 

[honeybradger]

Out of interest for those that want Martin for his promotion credentials, what makes him a better option than someone like Dean Smith who failed here but has far better credentials at that level than Martin.

[Chelmofox]

17 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Out of interest for those that want Martin for his promotion credentials, what makes him a better option than someone like Dean Smith who failed here but has far better credentials at that level than Martin.

No one want Brussel. Just a few who accept that he will likely get us promoted still. But I would rather pull my toenails out than appoint him, but he probably gets us playoffs   

[winteriscoming]

You don’t need someone with championship experience to go up. Enzo, Nuno, Bielsa and Le Bris this season prove that. 
Really hope it’s not Martin. 

[Harry the Cat]

27 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Out of interest for those that want Martin for his promotion credentials, what makes him a better option than someone like Dean Smith who failed here but has far better credentials at that level than Martin.

Give Dean Smith a break. He hardly ‘failed’ here. The damage was done well before he arrived and he only had a handful of games to salvage our season. Who knows what might have happened if Castagne’s last minute effort against Newcastle had gone in. Agree that he would be better than Martin. Anyway, he’s managing in the States with Charlotte isn’t he? 

Edited 26 May 2025 by Harry the Cat
Typo

[honeybradger]

Just now, Harry the Cat said:

Give Dean Smith a break. He hardly ‘failed’ here. The damage was done well before he arrived and he only had a handful of games to salvage our season. Who knows what might have happened had Castagne’s last minute effort against Newcastle had gone in. Agree that he would be better than Martin. Anyway, he’s managing in the States with Charlotte isn’t he? 

It was a bit harsh on Dean Smith but I was trying to make a point that he's not viewed that well by our fanbase but is still a substantially better manager than Martin.

[l444ry]

It's like being in the Dentist's Waiting Room anticipating the inevitable.

[fazzyfox]

1 minute ago, l444ry said:

It's like being in the Dentist's Waiting Room anticipating the inevitable.

Announcement will be at tooth-hurty !

[JimmyC74]

I am still not convinced that Brussell is that right man, but trying to search for some, small signs of hope, recent media speculation suggesting he would bring in a different backroom team such as Pedersen from Sheffield Weds may indicate he has learned a bit about what his weaknesses are and he has some plan to try and fix them.

LCFC eyeing Sheff Wed Asst Mgr to join Russell Martin

 

Pedersen's background includes working with the youth set-ups at RB Salzburg - so would suggest he is a developmental coach willing to promote youth. He has worked with Röhl at Sheffield Wed and before as part of the Red Bull group, so would hopefully help with setting up the defence etc etc.

 

.......would still prefer Röhl or Musilic mind.

 

 

Edited 26 May 2025 by JimmyC74

[teblin]

Was thinking I’d rather RVN stay than have Martin, then I saw the team yesterday.

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

So I don't really know too much about Martin, except hes banging Lucy Pinder( lucky cvnt).

Fair enough he has perceived  to have failed at Saints but realistically  who wouldnt?

So what's the pros and cons of him coming here and why are most so set against him?

( Serious question  from me for a change)

Everyone wishes they were Lucy Pinder.

[TrentFox]

My kids can’t understand why I’m so sad. I told them I’m emotional

about Lineker’s departure. 😞

[smudgerfox]

Top told Enzo he wanted a team that play like Man City.