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Jon the Hat

Jon the Hat

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12 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Both 'sides' in this as are bad as each other, one demands free speech then disagrees with it when it doesn't suit them. The other says 'free speech doesn't mean free from consequences' then moans like **** when free speech ends up resulting in conseqeuences. 

Only one side is leveraging the FCC to threaten the licenses of news / tv networks.

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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13 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Wonder if Trump is trying to out play Israeli or is America and Europe still being controlled by them, imo they have infiltrated most countries and are the main issue with what's going on in the world right now.

 

13 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Possible but I think that's down to Israeli 

Is it Isreali or the Jews ? 
 

(Or should I just ignore the posts like everyone else has apart from singh who took the pee ) 

 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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11 minutes ago, danny. said:

Makes me glad we paid £36bn to give away the Chagos Islands now. 

Yep. 

 

Doing the right thing is clearly secondary to making the books balance. 

 

What was it James Carville said? "It's the economy, stupid."

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Greg2607

Greg2607

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it's not a uniquely UK problem though....   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9n6vr2eyo

 

Most of the Western Democracies are going through this. 

 

The ONS released data yesterday showing that house prices in London are unaffordable for ANY decile of the earnings across the population. 

 

This is replicated in almost all modern societies.   

 

I think there will a large reckoning on what and the type of support that is offered to the general public moving forward. Clearly, Government spending for all nations is going to have to significantly reduce. 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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18 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

it's not a uniquely UK problem though....   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9n6vr2eyo

 

Most of the Western Democracies are going through this. 

 

The ONS released data yesterday showing that house prices in London are unaffordable for ANY decile of the earnings across the population. 

 

This is replicated in almost all modern societies.   

 

I think there will a large reckoning on what and the type of support that is offered to the general public moving forward. Clearly, Government spending for all nations is going to have to significantly reduce. 

Which will result in further societal fragmentation and division just at the time where unity is most needed. 

 

Interesting times. 

Greg2607

Greg2607

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1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Which will result in further societal fragmentation and division just at the time where unity is most needed. 

 

Interesting times. 

I don't disagree. The Western World appears to have maxed out it's credit cards on the previous generation. 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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13 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

I don't disagree. The Western World appears to have maxed out it's credit cards on the previous generation. 

Then I guess we just have to hope someone smart with the power to do so comes up with a solution that falls short of the very horrible. 

 

I guess we'll find out. 

Greg2607

Greg2607

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16 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Then I guess we just have to hope someone smart with the power to do so comes up with a solution that falls short of the very horrible. 

 

I guess we'll find out. 

it's a really hard problem to solve isn't it.... can't really "inflate" our way out of it, otherwise people's mortgages become unaffordable and repossessions spike. 

 

We've built a service led economy which is almost predicated on keeping wages suppressed (US Companies now outsource to the UK as a result of the "cheap labour".)

 

Our infrastructure is particularly poor outside of London. I live in a Region that doesn't even have access to the main railway network (well, any rail network to be fair) 

 

We've privatised our energy to the benefit of multiple countries except our own. 

 

Privatised water the same. 

 

layer on top of all of those issues, the one which is closest to your heart around climate change and the migratory effects that will have on the human population. 

 

i don't think it just takes "someone smart"... it requires a collective reset of expectations from governments and the populace. 

 

Which country will be the first to blink and remove the State Pension for citizens of a certain age? Because it will happen somewhere at some point. 

 

There is going to be an entire destruction of the status quo coming. Look at Argentina and what Milei has done there. to great fanfare from some on here, but he's doubled poverty in the country. 

 

The post war era from 1950's onwards is a real anomoly in terms of wealth in the general population... there is a fast retrenchment coming....... all whilst the very very very richest in the world, continue to grow their wealth at an enormous rate. 

 

governments across the world are run by / owned by the super rich.... they aren't going to be doing anything to rebalance the equity in society. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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30 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

it's a really hard problem to solve isn't it.... can't really "inflate" our way out of it, otherwise people's mortgages become unaffordable and repossessions spike. 

 

We've built a service led economy which is almost predicated on keeping wages suppressed (US Companies now outsource to the UK as a result of the "cheap labour".)

 

Our infrastructure is particularly poor outside of London. I live in a Region that doesn't even have access to the main railway network (well, any rail network to be fair) 

 

We've privatised our energy to the benefit of multiple countries except our own. 

 

Privatised water the same. 

 

layer on top of all of those issues, the one which is closest to your heart around climate change and the migratory effects that will have on the human population. 

 

i don't think it just takes "someone smart"... it requires a collective reset of expectations from governments and the populace. 

 

Which country will be the first to blink and remove the State Pension for citizens of a certain age? Because it will happen somewhere at some point. 

 

There is going to be an entire destruction of the status quo coming. Look at Argentina and what Milei has done there. to great fanfare from some on here, but he's doubled poverty in the country. 

 

The post war era from 1950's onwards is a real anomoly in terms of wealth in the general population... there is a fast retrenchment coming....... all whilst the very very very richest in the world, continue to grow their wealth at an enormous rate. 

 

governments across the world are run by / owned by the super rich.... they aren't going to be doing anything to rebalance the equity in society. 

Astute.

 

With all of that said, however, AFAIC given what's coming the choice for for society simple: equity (at at least more so), or collapse followed shortly by oblivion.

 

It's not even about morality for me (unless the ethics of human survival are a topic for discussion), but rather simple self-preservation. 

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ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Anyway, for something lighter on a  Friday evening - I see there is CURRENTly some unRAISINable behaviour in the new party on the left…..

The disintegration of this new party before it’s even got started is vintage Corbyn. Say what you like about the bloke, when it comes to this kind of stuff he’s absolutely unplayable. No one else comes close. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwzgrwdd0o

 

US Senator Ted Cruz has accused the head of America's broadcast regulator of acting like "a mafioso" in the suspension of late-night host Jimmy Kimmel - the sharpest attack yet from a conservative Republican on the controversy.

He said Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chairman Brendan Carr's threat to ABC over their comedian's monologue about slain conservative influencer Charlie Kirk was "dangerous as hell". 

 

Cancun Cruz seeing the political long game, then. 

 

Of course, Trump and his followers mostly don't see things Cruz's way because they intend and are working to make sure that there's no government of a different ideology that takes charge in the US again. For a very long time. 

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Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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Interesting developments in Belarusian/US relations, with lifting of sanctions, reopening of US embassy in Minsk, freeing prisoners, positive rhetoric.

Remains to be seen if this is part of the larger game at play in Eastern Europe, but hope is hope.

(Even rumours that Lukashenko is not happy about his Purim’s lapdog perception on the global stage, but that could be guff)

Zear0

Zear0

Posted
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1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Interesting developments in Belarusian/US relations, with lifting of sanctions, reopening of US embassy in Minsk, freeing prisoners, positive rhetoric.

Remains to be seen if this is part of the larger game at play in Eastern Europe, but hope is hope.

(Even rumours that Lukashenko is not happy about his Purim’s lapdog perception on the global stage, but that could be guff)

Suspect it's more a wannabe autocrat looking after an actual one. I've given up pretending to myself that the US are playing chess and trying to think more than a day ahead. 

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