Master Fox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 We're now one of the most weathly clubs in English football. We have to get used to inflated price tags. I say pay them what they want and get him in. Manchester Utd have bid £27million for Luke Shaw, there's absolutely no way he's worth that. But its a player who will improve our team. I think we should be looking to spend around £40 million on players this summer. Its difficult to adjust to such great sums after the years of struggle. But that's our future now. If top wants it he needs to buy some bloody good and expensive players.
nickelbyfox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Don't mind this signing as personally do not think Pearson rates Wood (I like him but think Pearson likes to see his strikers more 'busy') - so wouldn't be surprised to see Ulloa come in, Wood leave and we bring in another maybe more expensive striker. However all the signs seem that Pearson doesn't want to spend any money over the odds - 4 frees (including the Man Utd youngster) and bidding for Ulloa and Campbell
Brighton Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 I think he would be a good signing. From what I have seen he has good positional sense, has a good touch and can finish. Also if the rumours are true that we've made two or three offers, he hasn't chucked his toys out the pram wanting a move similar to palaces bid last year, so maybe he has a good character which Pearson values as well. I'd be happy for this to happen. Hi. The reason he hasn't thrown his toys out is because he has made it perfectly clear that he loves the club and city and his family who don't speak English love the area as well and Ulloa has siad many times that he doesn't want to leave but will, only if the club don't want him anymore. Ulloa can speak broken English now and one of the reasons why he came to us was because of Poyet and the fact we had 6 other spainsh players so that was a massive pull factor as well. It's not all about money for him, he's the type to think about his family first and formost. The club can agree a fee with you but he can always say no as players have in the past from different clubs. All the best in the premiership.
foxfanazer Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Hi. The reason he hasn't thrown his toys out is because he has made it perfectly clear that he loves the club and city and his family who don't speak English love the area as well and Ulloa has siad many times that he doesn't want to leave but will, only if the club don't want him anymore. Ulloa can speak broken English now and one of the reasons why he came to us was because of Poyet and the fact we had 6 other spainsh players so that was a massive pull factor as well. It's not all about money for him, he's the type to think about his family first and formost. The club can agree a fee with you but he can always say no as players have in the past from different clubs. All the best in the premiership. Hi thanks for the info.In all honesty I hope he stays with you and gives you a good chance of promotion. I just don't wamt us to spend £7m+ on him. He may well be worth that sort of money but it does represent a pretty big risk imo. Good luck next season
Master Fox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Hi. The reason he hasn't thrown his toys out is because he has made it perfectly clear that he loves the club and city and his family who don't speak English love the area as well and Ulloa has siad many times that he doesn't want to leave but will, only if the club don't want him anymore. Ulloa can speak broken English now and one of the reasons why he came to us was because of Poyet and the fact we had 6 other spainsh players so that was a massive pull factor as well. It's not all about money for him, he's the type to think about his family first and formost. The club can agree a fee with you but he can always say no as players have in the past from different clubs. All the best in the premiership. So you know him personally? None you what you've posted is anything but your own emotional personal viewpoint, and a really naive view of modern football. Every player is about the money whether you believe it or not.
Finn Claw II Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 So you know him personally? None you what you've posted is anything but your own emotional personal viewpoint, and a really naive view of modern football. Every player is about the money whether you believe it or not. Isn't this what we all do on here post opinions loosely based onfacts? I'm sure there is some truth to what he said but I agree with you, if you pay someone an extra £10-£20k p/w it buys you a lot of Spanish speakers to hang out at your house and make the family comfortable....
Hack Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Don't mind this signing as personally do not think Pearson rates Wood (I like him but think Pearson likes to see his strikers more 'busy') - so wouldn't be surprised to see Ulloa come in, Wood leave and we bring in another maybe more expensive striker. However all the signs seem that Pearson doesn't want to spend any money over the odds - 4 frees (including the Man Utd youngster) and bidding for Ulloa and Campbell Don't jump to the conclusion that Wood is on the outer. David Nugent hasn't renewed, so it could be his replacement?
Fox Ulike Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Hi. The reason he hasn't thrown his toys out is because he has made it perfectly clear that he loves the club and city and his family who don't speak English love the area as well and Ulloa has siad many times that he doesn't want to leave but will, only if the club don't want him anymore. Ulloa can speak broken English now and one of the reasons why he came to us was because of Poyet and the fact we had 6 other spainsh players so that was a massive pull factor as well. It's not all about money for him, he's the type to think about his family first and formost. The club can agree a fee with you but he can always say no as players have in the past from different clubs. All the best in the premiership. Thanks for your post. To be honest though, any player who at 27, wasn't desperate to prove himself in the Premiership probably wouldn't be the type of player we need. If he's happy in the Championship then that's probably where he's going to stay for the rest of his career now. Ditto Brighton.
Dickov22 Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 I don't care how much money we spend on him. He looked class last season, and Nigel knows a player when he sees one.
mozartfox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 I thought if a player did not ask for a move, the financial rewards were better - retention of loyalty bonus? Anyhow, this Brighton chap is obviously in the know or his Agent trying to force us to part with more Baht.
Bryn Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 I thought if a player did not ask for a move, the financial rewards were better - retention of loyalty bonus? Anyhow, this Brighton chap is obviously in the know or his Agent trying to force us to part with more Baht. This is true, of course all they do nowadays is announce their desire to move in every domain other than a written transfer request.
Danizen Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 This is true, of course all they do nowadays is announce their desire to move in every domain other than a written transfer request.That annoys me no end. How hard would it be to put a clause in th e contract that states, 'any quotes attributed to the player or the player's nominated agent that indicate either the player's desire to move or the player's discontent will result in forfeit of the remaining loyalty bonus.' It would be harder to force a move but still retain the loyalty bonus and it would reward actual loyalty.
foxfanazer Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 That annoys me no end. How hard would it be to put a clause in th e contract that states, 'any quotes attributed to the player or the player's nominated agent that indicate either the player's desire to move or the player's discontent will result in forfeit of the remaining loyalty bonus.' It would be harder to force a move but still retain the loyalty bonus and it would reward actual loyalty. Could be misquoted or the papers make it up though
Danizen Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Could be misquoted or the papers make it up thoughI know it wouldn't be perfect but it would at least stop players and agents mouthing off to the papers every day about wanting to leave (giving official on the record quotes) while still refusing to hand in a transfer request. For me, if you tell the media you want to leave, that's basically a transfer request there and then.
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 You're actually taking one of TBJS' posts seriously?
ramadaone Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Leo Ulloa Goals: 14Shots: 87Shots per goals ratio: 6.2Games per goal ratio: 2.5Assists: 4Key passes: 40Pass success rate: 77.6 per centAerial duels won: 92 of 278Per cent of club’s total goals: 25 per cent (14 of 57) Danny Ings Goals: 21Shots: 142Shots per goals ratio: 6.7Games per goal ratio: 1.9Assists: 5Key passes: 52Pass success rate: 74.2 per centAerial duels won: 29 of 157Per cent of club’s total goals: 29 per cent (21 of 77) Charlie Austin Goals: 19Shots: 121Shots per goals ratio: 6.3Games per goal ratio: 1.7Assists: 2Key passes: 23Pass success rate: 69.2 per centAerial duels won: 89 of 256Per cent of club’s total goals:30.6 per cent (19 of 62) Ross McCormack Goals: 28Shots: 143Shots per goals ratio: 5.1Games per goal ratio: 1.6Assists: 8Key passes: 108Pass success rate: 76.9 per centAerial duels won: 13 of 46Per cent of club’s total goals: 47 per cent (28 of 59)
VLC86 Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Leo Ulloa Goals: 14 Shots: 87 Shots per goals ratio: 6.2 Games per goal ratio: 2.5 Assists: 4 Key passes: 40 Pass success rate: 77.6 per cent Aerial duels won: 92 of 278 Per cent of club’s total goals: 25 per cent (14 of 57) Danny Ings Goals: 21 Shots: 142 Shots per goals ratio: 6.7 Games per goal ratio: 1.9 Assists: 5 Key passes: 52 Pass success rate: 74.2 per cent Aerial duels won: 29 of 157 Per cent of club’s total goals: 29 per cent (21 of 77) Charlie Austin Goals: 19 Shots: 121 Shots per goals ratio: 6.3 Games per goal ratio: 1.7 Assists: 2 Key passes: 23 Pass success rate: 69.2 per cent Aerial duels won: 89 of 256 Per cent of club’s total goals:30.6 per cent (19 of 62) Ross McCormack Goals: 28 Shots: 143 Shots per goals ratio: 5.1 Games per goal ratio: 1.6 Assists: 8 Key passes: 108 Pass success rate: 76.9 per cent Aerial duels won: 13 of 46 Per cent of club’s total goals: 47 per cent (28 of 59) Good facts and good post but im not really sure what your point is. We need a target man type striker of which only 2 of the above are... Ings and Ulloa. How much would we pay for Ings? It would be more than £10m, The same with both Austin and McCormack as well. Also, You have missed the key fact abouts games played as if Ulloa has missed 10+ games last season then its not really a fair comparison on all of the points eg % of clubs goals etc. I would say these facts back up why he wouldnt be the worst option and it would be good to see a comparison of Nuge and Vardy.
Finnegan Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Charlie Austin isn't a target man? But Ings, who's played off Vokes all year, is?
Burmesefox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 So you know him personally? None you what you've posted is anything but your own emotional personal viewpoint, and a really naive view of modern football. Every player is about the money whether you believe it or not. Wow, you have a very cynical view of life. That Brighton fan came on here to give his point of view which sounds pretty valid to me. It isn't always all about money.
Fox Ulike Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Good facts and good post but im not really sure what your point is. We need a target man type striker of which only 2 of the above are... Ings and Ulloa. How much would we pay for Ings? It would be more than £10m, The same with both Austin and McCormack as well. Also, You have missed the key fact abouts games played as if Ulloa has missed 10+ games last season then its not really a fair comparison on all of the points eg % of clubs goals etc. I would say these facts back up why he wouldnt be the worst option and it would be good to see a comparison of Nuge and Vardy. Danny Ings isn't a target man: Aerial duels won: 29 of 157 Or if he is he is shit at it.
VLC86 Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Charlie Austin isn't a target man? But Ings, who's played off Vokes all year, is? Good point, Austin is actually taller than Ings... never knew that
GingerrrFox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Good point, Austin is actually taller than Ings... never knew that Yes because height dictates a player's technical attributes...
sylofox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 Wow, you have a very cynical view of life. That Brighton fan came on here to give his point of view which sounds pretty valid to me. It isn't always all about money. So right Kasper springs to mind. Just some see oppositions support on here and just have to abuse them.
Guest Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 That annoys me no end. How hard would it be to put a clause in th e contract that states, 'any quotes attributed to the player or the player's nominated agent that indicate either the player's desire to move or the player's discontent will result in forfeit of the remaining loyalty bonus.' It would be harder to force a move but still retain the loyalty bonus and it would reward actual loyalty. Could be misquoted or the papers make it up though It's because standard player contracts are something that has been agreed with the players union - the PFA. You can't just invent clauses that haven't been agreed and which they'd then argue on the player's behalf when you fail to actually enforce it.
st albans fox Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 i was scanning through those stats and waiting to see vardy and nugents numbers ..................................
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