ealingfox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Last time we went abroad for pre-season it took until the following April for our league form to recover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Alright let's not make this an intelligent British vs stupid Americans thing when really it's a simple question of having principles vs being hypocrites: I don't want us playing in a marquee tournament organised by a complete cockhead just because there's money in it when we've spent all season proving that it's not about having the biggest balance sheet and the most expensive players. We're about to have our most successful fiscal year since the club came into existence anyway so money really shouldn't be an issue for anybody who isn't corrupted by greed. The only argument that can be made is it would be kind of cool to see Leicester play Barca and PSG and the likes but we'll be doing that next season anyway. Two members of our squad have been convicted of assault, the moral implications of playing an overseas friendly tournament should hardly be our biggest concern. If the financial boost allow the club to reduce ticket prices, then we'll all be praising the fantastic generosity of our club and condemning clubs less well off on the pitch who aren't doing the same - we won't be complaining that we had to sell our soul by playing in some overseas tournament to fund it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possiblygeorge Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 PLEASE COME TO AUSTRALIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Alright let's not make this an intelligent British vs stupid Americans thing when really it's a simple question of having principles vs being hypocrites: I don't want us playing in a marquee tournament organised by a complete cockhead just because there's money in it when we've spent all season proving that it's not about having the biggest balance sheet and the most expensive players. We're about to have our most successful fiscal year since the club came into existence anyway so money really shouldn't be an issue for anybody who isn't corrupted by greed. The only argument that can be made is it would be kind of cool to see Leicester play Barca and PSG and the likes but we'll be doing that next season anyway. It isn't about that either. It's about wanting money and publicity or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 I'd settle for the publicity the Premier League and Champions League gives us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanfox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 I think whether it's this or something else, we will do a "Tour" of sorts this season. Can imagine us only seeing the one, maybe two friendlies in this country. I mean, technically, haven't the club toured Thailand a few times? So we're definitely touring somewhere, right? Wait, what's your point there? The post I was responding to was challenging whether any "young Americans" would grow to care about the club given we'd be thrashed by Bayern or fill in the blank-team on tour. Well, considering we actually get more TV access to Premier League matches than anyone in England, it's not as if our club hasn't already made in-roads here. Regardless of some meaningless preseason friendly result, it would be fantastic for any Leicester supporter out here to see the players in the flesh. Not everyone can fly often across the pond to catch matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsfoxes Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Pride and respect out way money, hope we kindly tell them to go else where and arrange friendly's with clubs who didn't "invent" football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Fox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 While I do understand some of the objections raised,.I hope it happens. Personally speaking, I don't have the money to fly to England to see Leicester play in person, but I can swing a trip to Chicago, Orlando or wherever they host this event. From the clubs perspective I think the exposure in the USA could be lucrative. The stateside interest in the PL is growing rapidly, even down here in the backwaters of the deep south. If I am Leicester I strike while the iron is hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Two members of our squad have been convicted of assault, the moral implications of playing an overseas friendly tournament should hardly be our biggest concern. If the financial boost allow the club to reduce ticket prices, then we'll all be praising the fantastic generosity of our club and condemning clubs less well off on the pitch who aren't doing the same - we won't be complaining that we had to sell our soul by playing in some overseas tournament to fund it. You were complaining that we sold our soul because we sacked Nigel but you're fine with tacitly supporting a man who's shown huge disrespect to us and 14 other Premier League clubs? It isn't about that either. It's about wanting money and publicity or not. I refer you to my earlier point about having our best fiscal year ever. Might be different if whatshisname hadn't come out and said the things he did but in the present circumstances I would see it as a major loss of face and it looks like I'm not alone in feeling that way. And as @@filbertway's just correctly pointed out - how much more publicity do we need??? As to the Americans wanting to see the club first hand - that's fair enough but this isn't the right way to achieve that. Just because something feels good etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots60 Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Would love to see City in the states, but there's not enough disposable in the bank & holiday entitlement to go to USA & European champions league football so Europe it is. Great though for all USA based City fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 They f**k off for two reasons. Firstly the comments they aimed towards us. Second, I still say to this day that our pre-season what involved just a return flight to Austria and going as far as Lincoln on these isles has helped us this season a lot. We are going to have a few returning players from international competition as well, so let's help them rather than get them doing more travelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanfox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 As to the Americans wanting to see the club first hand - that's fair enough but this isn't the right way to achieve that. Just because something feels good etc. What is the right way, then? EDIT: If you mean, we're not really seeing Leicester if they come out here because it's a meaningless friendly, so what? There are a few of us out here who are emotionally invested enough in the club to fly over (I have a handful of times), but not everyone has $1000+ RT to fly from the US to LHR, Birmingham, or Manchester, then train to Leicester, then even get tickets nowadays with how difficult that's becoming. The more we get to see our club, the better. I refer you to my earlier point about having our best fiscal year ever. Might be different if whatshisname hadn't come out and said the things he did but in the present circumstances I would see it as a major loss of face and it looks like I'm not alone in feeling that way. And as @@filbertway's just correctly pointed out - how much more publicity do we need??? Obviously not the best example, but let's translate this to a corporate example: I'm some publically-listed company, and I'm going to flat out tell my shareholders, no, we refuse to sell more even though the demand is out there. It's not because of capacity constraints or even exclusivity, it's just we have "too much pride" so we'll stay away. How would the market react? As crude and unromantic as it is to say, our club is still a business and investment to Vichai and Top. It's not like they had a connection to Leicester before acquiring the club. They would be dumb to say no to more money. Perhaps you're right in your implicit point that there's diminishing returns to publicity and money. But considering there's many who still don't know much about the club (even within England), branching out isn't a bad thing at all in concept. Plus yes, I'm a biased American and I want to see us play out here and bring all my friends. Don't have as many friends willing to fly with me to London or Leicester to catch a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 You were complaining that we sold our soul because we sacked Nigel but you're fine with tacitly supporting a man who's shown huge disrespect to us and 14 other Premier League clubs? Not sure when I said we sold our soul? I said he didn't deserve to be sacked and he didn't, I have an issue with the fickle nature of English football that makes one fearful of developing great attachments to the manager of their football club and encourages them to accept blindly the dismissal of a manager regardless of how successfully they're doing the job asked of them. I do, also, have an issue with the influence money has on English football, the disparity between football clubs' potential based purely on their history and the desire to maintain elite clubs, but I'm not boycotting the Premier League, or Sky Sports, or BT, or equally responsible organizations and neither is my football club - while we're talking about hypocrisy it'd be a bit hypocritical to happily watch Sky Sports News yet get irate about a slightly more distant embodiment of the exact same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiFoxes Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 As to the Americans wanting to see the club first hand - that's fair enough but this isn't the right way to achieve that. Just because something feels good etc. While I understand and completely agree with this point, personally with a young child at home and hopefully another one arriving within the next couple of years, this may be the only chance I have to see Leicester play in person for the next ten years or so. I am already planning a family vacation to come and do it the "right way," but this is a wonderful consolation for someone like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanfox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 While I understand and completely agree with this point, personally with a young child at home and hopefully another one arriving within the next couple of years, this may be the only chance I have to see Leicester play in person for the next ten years or so. I am already planning a family vacation to come and do it the "right way," but this is a wonderful consolation for someone like me. I don't think "see the right way" is even a relevant point. It's not like we're in some zero-sum game -- if they come here for a friendly, that's *one more time* we'd have to opportunity to see the club, perhaps one more than zero in any given year (if any given USA Fox isn't able to travel to see a real match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiFoxes Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 I don't think "see the right way" is even a relevant point. It's not like we're in some zero-sum game -- if they come here for a friendly, that's *one more time* we'd have to opportunity to see the club, perhaps one more than zero in any given year (if any given USA Fox isn't able to travel to see a real match). Right. And I of course am not deluded enough to think that seeing a friendly in the US would be the same as going to a game in Leicester. Obviously one option is far greater than the other. But for those of us over here, this is something we probably never thought would even be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 We'll definitely be playing some pre season friendlies abroad in the summer no matter how much people object so get used to it.The extra revenue and the chance to spread the brand is too good to turn down I would have thought that the owners would prefer a pre season in Asia but I suppose it depends on how much money is offered for how many games. The games against Quorn and the like are usually a mix of youth team and fringe players anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Build the clubs reputation - let's go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Atleast with Celtic rumoured to be involved we won't be the worst team there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 We'll definitely be playing some pre season friendlies abroad in the summer no matter how much people object so get used to it.The extra revenue and the chance to spread the brand is too good to turn down I would have thought that the owners would prefer a pre season in Asia but I suppose it depends on how much money is offered for how many games. The games against Quorn and the like are usually a mix of youth team and fringe players anyway. And how many video cameras the players want to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 We should knock them back and allow Spurs to take part. We have a typical pre season schedule which has served us well thus far. Quite agree. Nothing quite like the likes of Quorn to prepare you for the champions league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Why is everyone so against this? I see it as good for the club. Raise the profile which could lead to more international fans... Increased revenue... Longer term success. Plus we'd probably get about 10million just to take part- it's a no brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Atleast with Celtic rumoured to be involved we won't be the worst team there! Liverpool and Chelsea are going to be there as well according to the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Pre-season should be used for getting the players up to fitness and the best place for that is in Leicester and pre-season games in and around the Midlands. If reports are accurate the quick turnaround of a pre season tour, community shield and the start of the season was the start of Chelsea's downturn and so the welfare of the players should be the primary focus of the pre-season rather than making a quick buck. You can't argue that they will be better rested relaxing at home with their families than in a hotel in downtown Philadelphia or whatever Californian backwater they'll be going to. The financial implications could be turned on its head and maybe we should think about the likes of Quorn or Loughborough Dynamo who make decent reciepts when the youth team play there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 16 March 2016 Share Posted 16 March 2016 Yeah let's turn down an amazing opportunity to increase our brand worldwide glad you lot stick to playing FIFA. Get the flights booked now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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