Inler

[HighPeakFox]

I see both sides of this argument - I suspect he is just a player that takes longer to adapt, whatever level of 'class' he is. To my eyes, it looks like he's a very good player, but just not the type we have much time for in the UK (i.e spends a lot of time appearing to stroll about but trying to read the game and fill space, trying to play his game in our very special team etc). Before my argument gets taken apart, I concede that some may strongly disagree with my perception, and I may yet have to concede I was quite wrong. 

[Guest Col city fan]

Harsh but fair in terms of his current level of performance, I do think though he'll begin to gel and does possess class. I think the likes of Benny, Drinks, Fuchs, King, De Laet, Was, drift in and out of the squad in accordance with our playing style and how it fits their skills. Inler will be no different and it really is a different pace of game to Serie A.

We all hope he'll adjust Nick, but giving him time to, may be to our detriment in terms of results. It very nearly has been I think?

The question for me is how much time? Do you play him to adjust (and thus render the midfield compromised whilst he's adjusting) in the hope that he'll give us long term benefit? Or not take the risk?

I dunno. Ranieri will have to deal with that one.

[HighPeakFox]

I would now be very surprised if he starts on Saturday, I think another session assessing the game from the bench may do him good

[Nick]

We all hope he'll adjust Nick, but giving him time to, may be to our detriment in terms of results. It very nearly has been I think?

The question for me is how much time? Do you play him to adjust (and thus render the midfield compromised whilst he's adjusting) in the hope that he'll give us long term benefit? Or not take the risk?

I dunno. Ranieri will have to deal with that one.

 

I think you play him based on his performances and right now that means the midfield pairing should be Kante and Drinks.

 

When we play 3 at the back, Was will get a turn. After the Cup success maybe Fuchs or Benny will make some sub appearances in the first team and earn the opportunity to fight for a place but yeah, until he's up to scratch I'd rather put the performers in that are paying dividends and right now that leaves Inler on the bench.

[Guest Col city fan]

I think you play him based on his performances and right now that means the midfield pairing should be Kante and Drinks.

When we play 3 at the back, Was will get a turn. After the Cup success maybe Fuchs or Benny will make some sub appearances in the first team and earn the opportunity to fight for a place but yeah, until he's up to scratch I'd rather put the performers in that are paying dividends and right now that leaves Inler on the bench.

I agree with this.

Personally though against Arsenal, I'd play a midfield three of King, Kante and Drinks and try to stop then bossing that area.

[HighPeakFox]

I'm agreeing largely with Col. Is there medication available?

[Babylon]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

No, come on. Some players slot in straight away, others can take time. For every player you say made an instant impact, there is one needed to adapt. We've seen it ourselves enough times.

 

It can depend entirely on the country they have been in before, the system they played in, where they played in that system, fitness coaching at previous clubs and any number of things.

 

Inler may turn out to be guff and just not fit in our system, but to just rubbish the idea that players can take time to show their worth is OTT.

 

You're also comparing players worth £20-£30m with someone who cost £3m/£4m. I find Matic and DeBruyne interesting choices. Especially considering they were both sold by Chelsea for not doing a great deal... then being either resigned by them or Man City a few years later.

[AKCJ]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

 

 

How can you possibly think that?

 

He's proven over his career that he is a very good footballer from a very high quality league but played at a slow tempo.

 

He's clearly struggled to get to grips with the pace of English Football but i've seen nothing, other than that, to suggest he's not a very good midfielder. He's just not been as good as his team mates but he's proving to be a very good option. I'd like to see him come on in games to help see them out. He uses the ball very well, has two feet (is he right or left footed?), can make a tackle and, as proven in his career, can organise a team.

 

Lets judge him when he's had enough game time. We're most definitely not seeing the best of him and it's just utterly daft to say that good players turn up and perform in every scenario.

[Riot Van]

 

watch this and tell me he doesn't have class

[les-tah]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

 Hasnt sanchez been god awful this season, aswell as Hazard not been performing? 

[AKCJ]

Also Inler is not "that good" when talking in the same breath as players that cost Champions League sides 30m+.

[volpeazzurro]

A better performance overall but that's it really. Made a few incisive passes but also gave it away pointlessly quite a bit and can't afford that against Arsenal. That bit of his game can be done better by Drinkwater and King who I thought had a very good game last night . He's not exactly a tiger in the challenge or that industrious and Kante is much the better prospect for those attributes . Fourth in the pecking order for me I'm afraid .

[MC Prussian]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

In the end, it all depends on how quickly a player adapts to the new surroundings and what role he's supposed to take over (as defined by the manager, I may add).

 

Players go through ups and downs all the time, you won't find a lot of footballers who are able to call upon their best in every single game, they have bad spells, as well.

 

Also, your comparisons to the other players you mention are in large parts far-fetched. Three of those players are attacking-oriented midfielders, only Matic is similar to Inler. All in all, a rather simplistic theory.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

How is it rubbish and I didn't call him class either. He's played in Italy for 8 years fgs the style of play is obviously going to be a factor,do you think he's just going to click like that? Why are you comparing him to genuine world class players anyway? besides Oscar obviously. 

[Nod.E]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

Must be hard for you without Cambiasso around...

[HighPeakFox]

Must be hard for you without Cambiasso around...

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[Father Ted]

Better performance last night compared to previously but still had plenty of negatives. Consistently gave possession away, although as the game went on, I think he learned that you don't need to play to 60 yard diagonal hollywood pass and that sometimes a 5 yard pass is OK. 

 

Looked as if he put more EFFORT in yesterday, which was good to see.

[Guest Col city fan]

Like everyone, I guess, I'm hoping Inler adds to the team in terms of guile.

And I've said before, I think the team needs someone class to pull the strings in midfield. As in BETTER than what we currently have.

But I ask again...How long do you give him to get up to speed in a results business where the pace of play is probably the quickest in the world?

And who suffers as a result? Andy King?

What I was hoping of Inler is this....that we were signing a player who instantly you could see oozed class and composure. Who orchestrated the midfield. Not a player who was going to take time doing so AND who, by so doing was detrimental to a side that bases itself on tough talking, quick counter attacking and defending/attacking as a team. Once more, if Inler cannot adapt and adjust both to the Premiership AND to the 'Leicester way', then taking time to get him doing so may result in bad results. IMO it very nearly has done.

Ranieri has a decision to make on this one.

IF Inler can do these things, then great. But how long do you give him? Genuine question.

I guess what I'm saying is you don't just play Inler BECAUSE he's Inler. You play him if he's going to make us better. And you certainly don't play him if he's making us worse. I'm a City fan, not an Inler fan.

[Happy Fox]

Like everyone, I guess, I'm hoping Inler adds to the team in terms of guile.

And I've said before, I think the team needs someone class to pull the strings in midfield. As in BETTER than what we currently have.

But I ask again...How long do you give him to get up to speed in a results business where the pace of play is probably the quickest in the world?

And who suffers as a result? Andy King?

What I was hoping of Inler is this....that we were signing a player who instantly you could see oozed class and composure. Who orchestrated the midfield. Not a player who was going to take time doing so AND who, by so doing was detrimental to a side that bases itself on tough talking, quick counter attacking and defending/attacking as a team. Once more, if Inler cannot adapt and adjust both to the Premiership AND to the 'Leicester way', then taking time to get him doing so may result in bad results. IMO it very nearly has done.

Ranieri has a decision to make on this one.

IF Inler can do these things, then great. But how long do you give him? Genuine question.

 

Another couple more games if he isn't pulling the strings by say 15 prem games then It would be disappointing.

[inckley fox]

Rubbish.

A 'class' player is a 'class' player.

How much time did Sanchez need to adjust at Arsenal? Oscar at Chelsea? Matic? DeBryune will slot straight in at Man City.

Class is permanent. If Inler is that good he should be pulling the strings and simply looking class now. He could improve with us and hopefully will. But don't get fooled by this 'He'll need ages to adjust' nonsense. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Inler joined us on the back of real excitement for many of our fans. So far, he's been disappointing.

 

No, come on. Some players slot in straight away, others can take time. For every player you say made an instant impact, there is one needed to adapt. We've seen it ourselves enough times.

 

It can depend entirely on the country they have been in before, the system they played in, where they played in that system, fitness coaching at previous clubs and any number of things.

 

Inler may turn out to be guff and just not fit in our system, but to just rubbish the idea that players can take time to show their worth is OTT.

 

You're also comparing players worth £20-£30m with someone who cost £3m/£4m. I find Matic and DeBruyne interesting choices. Especially considering they were both sold by Chelsea for not doing a great deal... then being either resigned by them or Man City a few years later.

 

There's truth in what both of you are saying, as usual!

 

I doubt we signed Inler so he could spent months getting up to speed. I tend to think that big name, 30+ year olds are brought in because they're players you feel you can depend on, who will add to the side quickly. I think that was the case with Wasilewski as much as it was with Philips, Cambiasso and Huth. And it's hard to think of many successful signings we've ever made in that age group who have failed to adapt within their first 5 or 6 games, be it Speedie or Ferdinand or any of the aforementioned.

 

However, we are talking about a player who, if he works out and plays 10+ games for us at a decent standard, will go down as a bargain in terms of the modern day market. If 3.8m turns out to be the figure, that's the equivalent of bringing in Gilchrist or Cresswell for 500K all those moons ago.

 

And, regardless of whether they were signed with an instant impact in mind, we have signed a small number of 30+ year olds in the past who looked rusty at first but went on to make a huge impact. Cottee springs instantly to mind - signed at 32, our top scorer for two years running in the top flight, but deemed surplus to requirements and shipped out on loan in his first season. So there's hope for Inler yet, even if the early signs aren't magnificent.

[Ric Flair]

I've read somewhere that Inler does go through periods of playing very poorly, not sure if it was at Udinese or Napoli but he had some really poor spells but equally some sensational periods. I guess we're hoping this poor showing so far will change very soon.

[Kitchandro]

Hopefully he will improve but he should have a hard time getting into the team at the moment. We've got space for 2 centre mids and King, Drinks and Kante should all be above him in the pecking order already.

 

We can't wait around for him to get up to speed.

[Babylon]

But I ask again...How long do you give him to get up to speed in a results business where the pace of play is probably the quickest in the world?

You give him as much time as he needs, but not at the expense of other players who are performing. Same issue with Kramaric at the moment really, they both need game time but there are people currently playing better.

 

There will come a time that King, or Drinkwater lose form, get injured or need a rest. That's when those players outside of the team need to come in and try and claim a spot for themselves with a good performance.

[Countryfox]

I'm not a fan at the moment, and who can blame me or anyone else for thinking that as Inler has not impressed or shone in any of his appearances so far.  But, i would say that LCFC are currently riding VERY high in the prem (best league in the world) at the moment, so a lot of "quality" players would struggle to walk into our first team.  And, unfortunately, he has been dubbed by some as a "replacement" for the magic one .....   and lets be honest how many players could fill those boots.

 

But lets all hope he does improve, and quickly, cus we are going to need strength in depth to keep this form going and maintain our amazing start .

[goose2010]

If this was this time last year, I would be concerned (everyone must remember us bringing GTF on against Chelsea) but we have more than enough quality in midfield, Inler will come good I have no doubt about that and he will be a major asset. It takes time to adjust from playing in Italy I cant actually think of any player that has come from Italy and has hit the ground running. Give the bloke some time and you will see that its yet another class signing from LCFC.