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Demarai Gray

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foxes21

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32 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

 

No chance, he isnt ready, he needs to get his head down, work hard and force his way in. The games he has come in he hasnt done this. He is 1 if not 2 seasons away from being a regular for me.

 

24 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Gray seems to improve with every game he doesn't play in some people's eyes.flashy runner with the ball, but no where near as good as some on here say. Schlupp 2, looks great until you realise that they have no football awareness. Been a lot better as a team with gray out of it

 

Finally some sense in this thread.

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18 minutes ago, Thracian said:

My son wanted Gray used and we all agreed that Mahrez was ineffectual. The point was that Gray asks questions and might somehow have helped find a bit more space for others.

 

But we can all be brilliant in hindsight and, but for conceding the sloppiest and totally unnecessary goal (much like one against Palace), we might well have earned the AET draw that would have sent us into penalties and perhaps onto a famous victory with a two-leg effort we'd have all been praising to the rafters. .

 

Even as it is, the result was an injustice but beneath any gloss it did show how much room there is for improvement. And, although he didn't play, that includes Gray.           

The only creative player for Leicester. What did anyone else do beside crossing and trying to find Vardy? Even Kingy would agree. Hope he leaves and you will enjoy Gray for the rest of time.

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Just now, MattCan said:

The only creative player for Leicester. What did anyone else do beside crossing and trying to find Vardy? Even Kingy would agree. Hope he leaves and you will enjoy Gray for the rest of time.

I don't see Gray as being the answer necessarily. Not at this stage. Promising is how I see him. And Mahrez wasn't creative last night. He wasn't anything but anonymous and our managing a 1-1 draw all the more commendable given that we really weren't functioning in Mahrez's sector. But we agree on one thing. I hope he leaves too. Because he doesn't give the impression of wanting to be here and hasn't done since last close season really.  

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1 minute ago, Thracian said:

I don't see Gray as being the answer necessarily. Not at this stage. Promising is how I see him. And Mahrez wasn't creative last night. He wasn't anything but anonymous and our managing a 1-1 draw all the more commendable given that we really weren't functioning in Mahrez's sector. But we agree on one thing. I hope he leaves too. Because he doesn't give the impression of wanting to be here and hasn't done since last close season really.  

1. He should go.

2. He was the most creative player last night.

3. He is a major reason Leicester even played the CL, not Gray. So, he has earned it.

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3 minutes ago, Foxin hell said:

Mahrez has been one of our best players throughout the Champions league campaign and somehow he's still getting slagged off lol

... and he will always be under-appreciated here. He needs to move to kinder places.

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4 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

Instead of who?

Instead of Okazaki or Chilwell. By playing the same lineup as usually we were never going to beat them. Which is why we needed a different approach. When a team is as good as they are just firing balls in on top of them hoping for knock downs and scraps is not the way to go. You need to play with width and have players with that added flair quality or touch of genius. Gray (although not the finished article) offers both. 

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2 minutes ago, MattCan said:

... and he will always be under-appreciated here. He needs to move to kinder places.

He does, he clearly can't cope with extra pressure on him and it's doing us no good having a player that can't perform very well because he's being marked out of games.

 

He'd fit in well at Arsenal I think.

 

Disappointed for Gray, but something tells me he'll be involved in a fair few champions league campaigns during his career. Would have probably brought him on for Albrighton around the 65 minute mark, if only for fresh legs on both sides of the pitch. 

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1 minute ago, filbertway said:

He does, he clearly can't cope with extra pressure on him and it's doing us no good having a player that can't perform very well because he's being marked out of games.

 

He'd fit in well at Arsenal I think.

 

Disappointed for Gray, but something tells me he'll be involved in a fair few champions league campaigns during his career. Would have probably brought him on for Albrighton around the 65 minute mark, if only for fresh legs on both sides of the pitch. 

I agree.

He is asked to:

- Play as second RB and close in tightly on attackers and crossers.

- Track back and sprint on every opposition counter and defend penetrations and crosses.

- Move the ball forward over a 40-50 yards stretch along the flanks with no support.

- Cut into the middle if Vardy is calling.

- Go past two or three professional defenders.

- Make accurate crosses to tall strikers and CBs.

- Lead the attack.

- Come up with moments of magic.

- Be specialist of free kicks and penalty kicks.

- Deal with the permanent criticism.

- No opportunity for development.

- God knows what else ...

 

Yeah, he needs to move on, even for lesser wages.

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Blaming mahrez for the lack of quality in this team.

 

When our players actually tried to run into space and overlap in the second half he looked great. What did vardy do apart from the goal? He was in godin's pocket for two games.

 

I can only imagine the amount of praise gray would've got if he put the same defensive shift.

 

It seems everyone get a free pass, an "excuse", "vardy is not getting the ball", "okazaki is not that kind of player", "albrighton is helping us defend", "drinky is carrying a knock", "its ok for simo to not overlap because he is solid defensively", "gray is still young".

 

So, step forward mahrez, you are the scapegoat, again!

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7 minutes ago, Foxin hell said:

Mahrez has been one of our best players throughout the Champions league campaign and somehow he's still getting slagged off lol

I don't think anyone is slagging him off it's just that he has some much talent and yet can be so frustrating. I think his lack of discipline where he'd sooner pay a fine than be on time for training defines his mentality and approach to the game.

He needs to work harder both personally and for the good of the Team. Then and only then will he achieve the greatness his talent richly deserves. 

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2 minutes ago, MattCan said:

I agree.

He is asked to:

- Play as second RB and close in tightly on attackers and crossers.

- Track back and sprint on every opposition counter and defend penetrations and crosses.

- Move the ball forward over a 40-50 yards stretch along the flanks with no support.

- Cut into the middle if Vardy is calling.

- Go past two or three professional defenders.

- Make accurate crosses to tall strikers and CBs.

- Lead the attack.

- Come up with moments of magic.

- Be specialist of free kicks and penalty kicks.

- Deal with the permanent criticism.

- No opportunity for development.

- God knows what else ...

 

Yeah, he needs to move on, even for lesser wages.

Genuine question, are you a Leicester fan or just a Mahrez fan? I appreciate Mahrez for everything he has done for Leicester and the moments of magic he provided week in week out during our title win, but he, like any player should not be exempt from criticism when they are not performing. You are right about the role Mahrez has to play with his defensive duties etc, but having all 11 players battling and tracking back defending is the reason we won the league. Mahrez probably wouldn't have to do as much defensive work if he was playing for a top side, yes, but as it currently stands, he plays for Leicester and he's being asked to do a job and quite frankly has been pretty poor this season. After CR left, a lot of last seasons stars started to find form again, like Vardy, Huth Fuchs but Mahrez has done very little. The reason our fans get so frustrated with him is because we all know what he's capable of but yet ha's rarely produced it this season barring a few moments of magic against Hull and City and in the group stage games. 

 

I think your comments that Leicester fans don't appreciate him is wrong, but like I said, he is not exempt from criticism, just like Drinky has been criticised and vardy, huth, Morgan etc. No player is bigger than our club and never will be. 

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10 minutes ago, the fox said:

Blaming mahrez for the lack of quality in this team.

 

When our players actually tried to run into space and overlap in the second half he looked great. What did vardy do apart from the goal? He was in godin's pocket for two games.

 

I can only imagine the amount of praise gray would've got if he put the same defensive shift.

 

It seems everyone get a free pass, an "excuse", "vardy is not getting the ball", "okazaki is not that kind of player", "albrighton is helping us defend", "drinky is carrying a knock", "its ok for simo to not overlap because he is solid defensively", "gray is still young".

 

So, step forward mahrez, you are the scapegoat, again!

Not true. All the players you mentioned above have all been criticised at some point this season and Mahrez should not be exempt from this. He is our flair player and the player we look to for some magic and unfortunately he has rarely shown us his great talents this season. He seemed to be fine playing with the players you mentioned above last season, so why is he struggling playing with them this season? 

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1 minute ago, jayfox26 said:

Genuine question, are you a Leicester fan or just a Mahrez fan? I appreciate Mahrez for everything he has done for Leicester and the moments of magic he provided week in week out during our title win, but he, like any player should not be exempt from criticism when they are not performing. You are right about the role Mahrez has to play with his defensive duties etc, but having all 11 players battling and tracking back defending is the reason we won the league. Mahrez probably wouldn't have to do as much defensive work if he was playing for a top side, yes, but as it currently stands, he plays for Leicester and he's being asked to do a job and quite frankly has been pretty poor this season. After CR left, a lot of last seasons stars started to find form again, like Vardy, Huth Fuchs but Mahrez has done very little. The reason our fans get so frustrated with him is because we all know what he's capable of but yet ha's rarely produced it this season barring a few moments of magic against Hull and City and in the group stage games. 

 

I think your comments that Leicester fans don't appreciate him is wrong, but like I said, he is not exempt from criticism, just like Drinky has been criticised and vardy, huth, Morgan etc. No player is bigger than our club and never will be. 

I think I'm right. You can't equate tons of criticism, permanent scapegoating, and sheer abuse with what is said about Vardy, Drinkwater, or Andy King. Naaah.

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We have a world class player who could walk most teams in the world, at LEICESTER CITY, and people still slag him off. Stop the planet I want to get off. (Riyad not Gray obvs)

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8 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Poor dimmy can't even get a thread of his own without having to bow to Riyad lol 

Poor Dimmy clearly doesn't show enough in training to even get off the bench. Mahrez is on a completely different level to Gray.

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Its pretty simple with Gray, we either use him or lose him. Regarding Mahrez, he has been found out this season and isn't well rounded enough to cope. Earlier in the season he was isolated and ganged up by opposition defenders, therefore it was no surprise he was quiet. Since Shakey has taken over, he has encouraged Simpson to go up and support Mahrez and certainly against Athletico, Ndidi was always in passing range. Unfortunately Mahrez cut onto his left foot and lost possession, more times then not. When he did pass he gave the ball away or was too late in his decision making (Vardy was clear but Mahrez wouldn't pass earlier enough). Defence isn't Riyad's forte so won't criticise him there, but he needs to take players on the outside as well as the inside and improve his decision making. Without improvement he's a busted flush unfortunately and I would like to see Gray rotated with Mahrez more often, in the hope he takes his position in the future.

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28 minutes ago, the fox said:

Blaming mahrez for the lack of quality in this team.

 

When our players actually tried to run into space and overlap in the second half he looked great. What did vardy do apart from the goal? He was in godin's pocket for two games.

 

I can only imagine the amount of praise gray would've got if he put the same defensive shift.

 

It seems everyone get a free pass, an "excuse", "vardy is not getting the ball", "okazaki is not that kind of player", "albrighton is helping us defend", "drinky is carrying a knock", "its ok for simo to not overlap because he is solid defensively", "gray is still young".

 

So, step forward mahrez, you are the scapegoat, again!

Why does their need to be a scapegoat? can we all not acknowledge that the team played fantastic but were beat by a better team an as much as we'd like him to be- Grey isn't a Ronaldo or Messi or even Dybala an that's what will break down that stubburn Atletico defence in the CL.

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As usual in these circumstances there are some people so far up Mahrez's arse that he can do no wrong, and then there are some people who are overly critical. He's had an average season at best, even last night he had the odd moment but generally was dealt with comfortably by good defenders. People blame his defensive responsibilities but he was asked to do that last season and still managed to peform better going forward, far too many little flicks in recent weeks which haven't come off.

 

Fantastic player on his day but he's not had a good season, for a number or reasons.

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