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Daniel Amartey

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50 minutes ago, teblin said:

He has potential and the right attributes to make a good right back. Hes only 23, arguably Simpson took until he was 29 to make it to his top level.

 

He needs consistent game time

I highly agree. I'm really not sure about the guy but he's never going to improve on the bench. 

 

I would have gone for a back three just to avoid Amartey verses Hazard. But you can't take it away from the lad. A great match for him.

 

I think this is the most consistent game time he's had since Ranieri. And he now seems to have a position.

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4 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Again, really pleased for the chap. Does Simmo come straight back in when fit?..

On form I'd say no. Simpson is a better defender but it'd be wrong to bring him in while Amartey is playing well. Same with Dragovic and Wes.

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21 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

So do we no longer need an attack minded RB, which Puel apparently prefers?

 

Maybe in time Amartey can add some attacking qualities to his game, he certainly has the attributes

Bizarrely, given how we’ve seen him at RB, Amartey CAN get forward pretty well if allowed to. If Puel wants his full backs bombing on, Amartey would be a better bet at this than Simpson. Naturally, I think Amartey has a more atracking instinct.

Therefore, it’s strange we haven’t seen Puel playing Amartey this way? Maybe he’s ‘bedding him in’ defensively and the attacking side of his game is next on the agenda?

Im just surmising. 

What I think is most likely to happen is that Puel will be looking to get an orthodox wing back in. Either soon or in the summer.

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1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

Bizarrely, given how we’ve seen him at RB, Amartey CAN get forward pretty well if allowed to. If Puel wants his full backs bombing on, Amartey would be a better bet at this than Simpson. Naturally, I think Amartey has a more atracking instinct.

Therefore, it’s strange we haven’t seen Puel playing Amartey this way? Maybe he’s ‘bedding him in’ defensively and the attacking side of his game is next on the agenda?

Im just surmising. 

What I think is most likely to happen is that Puel will be looking to get an orthodox wing back in. Either soon or in the summer.

Bang on, I think. We've seen Amartey's positional lapses last season, I think he's getting him to work on that, and from what I can see, it's working. He definitely gets forward to support Mahrez more than Simpson does though.

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The sort of squad player that is so valuable to clubs, glad he's getting some games as he deserves it. Obviously sentiment has very little place in results driven football but injuries always open up room for fringe players and that then hopefully gives these players enough to be happy to stay rather than seek a move.

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I was at the game on Saturday and if I’m honest was having palpitations every time he received the ball as he was a known weak link and closed down by two Chelsea players nearly every time. However he held his nerve and got rid of the ball reasonably safely under pressure and found space well off the ball. He also looked okay going forward but it’s going to take performances like that week in week out before any real faith grows in me regarding him being any more than a second choice right back.

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Hes extremely useful to have around, much like a Fabian Delph, James Milner, Ashley Young type character around.

 

Versatile players who can come in in a few different positions and fill in well in them when called upon. They also dont kick up a fuss about their amount of game time theyre just there to come in when the situation is desperate.

 

Other than his red card v man utd hes performing well and been involved in 3 clean sheets. 

 

I think hes also more talented technically than some give him credit for and hes a very good athlete too.

 

 

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Perhaps the reason I never lost faith in Amartey is what I look at in a young footballer.  When I see moments of brilliance in their short history, that causes me to believe they are capable of that in the future.  I’ve seen moments of brilliance that some players rarely have.  Other players may show more consistency, but have reached their top performance; which is often “good enough”.  Amartey has shown us some truly marvelous playing, that has kept me positive about what he can achieve.  We’ll see soon enough if he can achieve the consistency a player needs to become a true success.  I’m encouraged here.

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Basically every single footballer on the planet improves the more regular football they get. From the leicester alliance leaugue right through to the premier league.

 

Amartey is a good example of this, in both his spells in the first team (last season and this) he only started looking like a decent player after about 6 consecutive games.

 

That's why I find it so frustrating when people are writing ineacho off after 2 starts.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Basically every single footballer on the planet improves the more regular football they get. From the leicester alliance leaugue right through to the premier league.

 

Amartey is a good example of this, in both his spells in the first team (last season and this) he only started looking like a decent player after about 6 consecutive games.

 

That's why I find it so frustrating when people are writing ineacho off after 2 starts.

 

 

Got to agree with this. How many strikers usually come in and start firing first game in?

Scoring goals in big games becomes a habit and without at least a few games to get some confidence back, it can’t be easy.

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3 hours ago, Max Wall said:

Doing a job filling in for Simmo but not a long term answer. Has steadily improved recently, albeit slowly.

 

Steady or not, he's improved to the point where personally I wouldn't be hugely concerned if Simpson had a set-back in his recovery (other than it would mean we lacked two players in that position). That in itself is a major bonus. 

 

 

The long term side of it would depend on whether we can coach him to remain as solid in defence but to start to get forward more. That's assuming that Puel want this - it certainly seems that way as just before his injury Simpson was getting forward noticeably more (read: more than never!)

 

At the moment you can see it's not even crossing Amartey's mind to 'do a Maguire', or overlap with Mahrez - as soon as he gets the ball he releases it. My guess is that's less to do with confidence are more following instructions from Puel - after all he's not a specialist RB. But for a non-specialist he's done a pretty good job already - he clearly listens and applies himself which is half the battle. It remains to be seen if he gets a long enough run to take this next step, and whether he can provide any actual quality going forward. But he's surely got the physical attributes to give it a good go.

 

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6 minutes ago, Ecdysiast said:

I think Big Dan will be an amazing player for us. Hasn't let us down at right back, has an amazing "engine" and will get forward occasionally. Improving with game time and decent coaching. Wouldn't want to lose him.

I like the guy but to say he hasn't let us down is a little silly, he got sent off after being on the pitch for 17 minutes 2 weeks ago

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2 hours ago, turtmcfly said:

 

Steady or not, he's improved to the point where personally I wouldn't be hugely concerned if Simpson had a set-back in his recovery (other than it would mean we lacked two players in that position). That in itself is a major bonus. 

 

 

The long term side of it would depend on whether we can coach him to remain as solid in defence but to start to get forward more. That's assuming that Puel want this - it certainly seems that way as just before his injury Simpson was getting forward noticeably more (read: more than never!)

 

At the moment you can see it's not even crossing Amartey's mind to 'do a Maguire', or overlap with Mahrez - as soon as he gets the ball he releases it. My guess is that's less to do with confidence are more following instructions from Puel - after all he's not a specialist RB. But for a non-specialist he's done a pretty good job already - he clearly listens and applies himself which is half the battle. It remains to be seen if he gets a long enough run to take this next step, and whether he can provide any actual quality going forward. But he's surely got the physical attributes to give it a good go.

 

You make some salient points. We both agree that he has improved. Whether Claude feels he has the time to develop Amartey over a longer period remains to be seen but he clearly has potential and whilst the manager doesn't have a lot of options, he clearly trusts DA to do a job which is good enough for me. Puel knows more about football than I do. 

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On 14/01/2018 at 04:24, Collymore said:

What a ridiculous post. Simpson is argubably one of the, if not the Best defender at the club and you're talking like he is going to be discarded like an over used toothbrush. 

 

All this talk about Simpson getting forward is garbage IMO as we need a defensive strength on that side to release Mahrez. 

 

Amartey looks a bit awkward still IMO, he's been an excellent squad player recently but as a defender he couldn't polish Simpson's boots. 

 

No it's the complete opposite in fact. To release Mahrez we need a right back who can get forward, support Mahrez, go on the overlap dragging away players to give Mahrez more room to weave his magic. 

 

Amartey has not put a foot wrong defensively since his return from suspension - including 2 notably strong performances away at Liverpool and Chelsea. This myth that Simpson is our "best defender" is simply not going to stick anymore. I'm just sick to death of seeing him stop at the halfway line and roll it back to Morgan or the casual hopeful line ball to Mahrez or Vardy whilst staying in his own half with no intention to support the attack. 

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