Fuchs off

[funkyrobot]

Feel bad for fuchsy as he's been fantastic for us all of last season and has been one of our best this season up until the last month where he seems to be getting caught out a lot. Maybe he needs a break or the development of Benny C has somehow fazed him. Just hope he hasn't done a GNev like someone else has suggested when the legs just go mid season. GNevs last game for mufc is a lesson to any pro about when to retire!! 

[Gerard]

6 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

No idea why we gave him a new 3 year contract. Good professional but getting in the way of Chilwell. MLS is calling.

 

I agree, it was a smack in the teeth for Fuchs to be given a new contract and especially so soon after Chilwell had agreed his.

 

We've not been hard nosed enough with our negotiations and been handing good contracts out to players as a "reward". We'll reap what we sow in the next few years as we'll have players who won't leave because we're the only club in the world who will pay them this salary. Fuchs has been great for us but he should always have been shipped out at the end of his contract.

[lgfualol]

4 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

I agree, it was a smack in the teeth for Fuchs to be given a new contract and especially so soon after Chilwell had agreed his.

 

We've not been hard nosed enough with our negotiations and been handing good contracts out to players as a "reward". We'll reap what we sow in the next few years as we'll have players who won't leave because we're the only club in the world who will pay them this salary. Fuchs has been great for us but he should always have been shipped out at the end of his contract.

Agents have the club by the balls I suspect.

[Quorn_fox]

Crikey, I know he's had a couple of poor games recently, but retiring?! He's 30! Gary Neville had barely played for two years and was about 35 when he called it a day. He's still a very good left back.

[Gerard]

1 minute ago, lgfualol said:

Agents have the club by the balls I suspect.

 

I had no problem in Mahrez, Vardy, Drinkwater and Schmeichel getting their big fat new contracts. In hindsight maybe not but at the time they were the players who made a difference and it was imperative we kept them.

 

What really makes my piss itch is the other players getting the big contracts. For me no one else was going to pay them mega money and they were all replaceable if they kicked up a stink. Once we start paying the likes of Morgan, Fuchs, Albrighton, Simpson, etc more than their market worth it means you can't get rid of them later down the line as no one else will match their salaries. If we were going to develop as a club these were the players we needed upgrades on in the next year or so, not tied down to huge contracts that no one else would pay them.

[fatboytim]

52 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Nah Dorris is alright

Dorris WAS alright. Made a lovely cuppa last season, but this season she's tried to branch out a bit - push her limits so to speak. And coffee is just a bit beyond her talents I'm afraid but she flatly refuses to just go back to what made her the tea lady she was in the first place. 

[Moksky]

He was exposed massively today by the formation. Fuchs had been pretty consistent until last 2 games. Chilwell got murdered against Everton particularly for the goal. He was no worse than many others today. 

 

Against Chelsea he was in a back 3 protecting Chilwell due to threats of Moses down the left.

[Jakemoore]

Realistically they have all been awful this season. 

 

I'm trying to think of at least one good thing that they have all done - 

 

Kasper - made some great saves away at Stoke to keep us in the game at both 2-0 and 2-1 down. Distribution is either class or shocking. And he's reluctant to go quickly for Vardy this season it would seem. 

Simpson - no idea. Nothing great but not the worst performer that's for sure. 

Wes - nothing special. Where has our captain gone? He doesn't boss games anymore. Maybe he's past it? 

Huth - no idea. I think he's probably passed it now. He fouls too often, is too slow and has literally zero passing ability. 

Fuchs - scored an incredible goal at home against Palace but that's literally it. He's a shadow of his former self. 

Mendy - Still too early to tell but N'golo he is not. However, he also doesn't look to be as good as Drinky was last season which many were led to believe he would be. 

N'didi - Think he's going to be the real deal. He was pretty sloppy today but he's made a good start to life in Leicester. 

Drinkwater - so inconsistent this year. At times his passing is as it was last year. But he looks to go back home so much this season, which he has done badly quite a lot (WBA @ home) he was a very angry guy today. Which I like but I also feel that a better player would have taken the game by the scruff on the neck. I guess that's the difference between a Schloes and a Drinkwater. 

Gray - scored an absolute worldy against United but has failed to live up to the hype. Plenty of promise but too many bad decisions when it's crunch time like shooting today when he should have found Vardy. 

Oki - I can't really blame him too much as I don't think he's any different to last season. I think he's pretty limited in terms of pace, finishing and football intelligence but he makes up for it in willingness and desire. You will always get effort but at the end of the day, he's just not all that good. 

Vardy - had a stormer against City but that's about it. He isn't getting the service but he's also not making the same runs or pressing like he was. He plays so much deeper than he did last year. 

 

Albrighton - Brilliant cross for Slimani at home to Westham.  In a poor team he looks dreadful. He always looks to go early but the runs aren't on and so his passes look wasteful. So with a bit of composure he wouldn't try those passes. I think he needs to be on the better side or he generally looks like one of the worst players on the pitch which I don't believe he is. 

King - Cracking finish against City. He doesn't get the game time he may think he deserves but as a club legend I would expect him to lead when he does play but he seems to go missing in matches too often. 

Mahrez - everything good has been in the CL. What can I say about him? Yes he's doubled up on most games but he looks like he couldn't give a shit most games too. And when we are losing, his lack of tracking back becomes even more irritating. 

Slimani - Fantastic in the air. His conversion rate is probably pretty good. However, he doesn't get many chances which for 30 million is disappointing. I need to see our record signing grabbing games by the scruff of its neck which just isn't happening right now. 

Amartey - Equaliser against Stoke (absolute scenes)started to improve before AFCON but still miles away from a good CDM. His passing at times is woeful. 

Chilwell - Cracking player. He's going to be a class LB in a few years. Got a lot of love for the lad. He seems to be the real deal. 

Zieler - distribution is poor. Commanding his area is non existent. Decent shot stopper but all prem keepers are. 

Musa - A few good goals against Everton and Palace but that's not enough. He has so much pace it's frightening. But is he not aware of it?! He doesn't want to take anyone on. He'll get the ball, turn around and pass backwards. Oh, and he lacks the desire to close down defenders which you want your pacey players to do. 

 

So basically, I think 75% of our squad have had one maybe two good moments this season so far but not one of them can say they have had more than two game changing or game winning moments. I think that's down to a lack of application and desire mainly. But also down to tactically bad decision making from CR. 

 

I love LCFC but this season has been shit. I genuinely enjoyed the season before last more than this. We were pretty much doomed in January of that year but at least we were playing well and making us all proud still. 

[VLC86]

He's been woeful in 2 games where the whole team has been an embarrassment. Unlike a few other players I don't think he is finished yet but I do agree it's very strange why chilwell got dropped.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Think on recent form Chillwell should be first choice 

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, Moksky said:

He was exposed massively today by the formation. Fuchs had been pretty consistent until last 2 games. Chilwell got murdered against Everton particularly for the goal. He was no worse than many others today. 

 

Against Chelsea he was in a back 3 protecting Chilwell due to threats of Moses down the left.

The formation was shocking given how good Southampton are good out wide. Both full backs had no options today. 

[coolhandfox]

For me, I lost faith in CR a little over the last couple of games, how has he picked Fuchs over Chilwell? 

 

Chilwill has been one of our better player since the turn of the year.

[JayT - Always A Fox!]

2 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

He was an embarrassment today. Looks a shadow of the players he was last season. Gets skinned far too often and gives away stupid fouls. Would much rather we played Chilwell as first choice. He's certainly no worse than Fuchs this season

Do we think maybe having Chilwell breathing down his neck more this year is effecting him along with the pressure to perform to the standards last year?

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

We will end up with a thread for everyone. Even the tea lady isn't safe.

The bitch did not put my 2 sugars in.

[Ric Flair]

Most of the players over 30 should have been given pay rises to their existing contracts rather than extensions. They deserved being financially rewarded but not for longer. Morgan is finished and we've got him for another 3-4 years? Frightening.

[Bayfox]

Got a lot of time for Fuchs, was class for us last year, real good professional, and a good man off the pitch as well, however, I found it strange he got a new deal when he had basically stated his move to Leicester was his last in Europe and that the 3 year deal would see him right until he moved to the states full-time to be with the wife and kids. So why we offered him an extended deal is beyond me, yes increase his wages inline with others as a reward for last season, but a longer deal was a bad idea.

 

I also feel whilst he is a top bloke off the pitch, his eye has been taken off the ball, with the nofuchsgiven, clothing line, his launching soccer schools, he was over in Austria 2 or 3 days before the Chelsea game, now I accept we have a day off training in the week, but come on,is flying round europe ideal prep, i'm not sure it's ideal.

 

That said, still think it's the centre backs that need replacing 1st and foremost, certainly wes anyway, and we need to protect our fullbacks a bit more, the narrow sort of midfield we used at the weekend was poor.

 

We wanted change for so long, but now we are trying something different every week, think we have to go back to 442 at home and hope ndidi or mendy can start to do a job alongside drinkwater, and away from home, 433 with both protecting the shambles of a back 4 as it stands.

[foxfanazer]

By the way I didn't create thread this thread to suggest that Fuchs is anywhere near our biggest problem at the moment. I just think if we're gonna be garbage anyway we might as well try to develop Chilwell who bar the odd lapse in concentration  (put that down to age) has been superb 

[RowlattsFox]

I thought he was our most consistent performer for first couple of months of season but has definitely lost confident in recent weeks. Without Albrighton in front of him he has been exposed.

[foxy boxing]

the trouble is the defence as a whole has players in the twilight of their playing careers and we have no young players apart from Chilwell to replace them. between them they are playing an awful lot of football for the team as we have no backup so they have very little rest or "down time" between games.Fuchs has had a few bad games but is definately not the only one with "big Wes" the biggest concern right now.

[Footballwipe]

58 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Most of the players over 30 should have been given pay rises to their existing contracts rather than extensions. They deserved being financially rewarded but not for longer. Morgan is finished and we've got him for another 3-4 years? Frightening.

This is where hindsight or any future books would focus. The fact we were only too keen to give most players new deals millions in guaranteed income. Wes will happily sit on his deal until 2019 or 2020 and earn the £4m p/a. No team will touch him on that kind of salary.

 

I don't dispute financial rewards, they bought the club untold riches. I do dispute, like you, the long-term deals, when we were in position to make the transition in the summer. Nostalgia seemed to get in the eyes of a lot, when we could have started to phase out the older players with top quality replacements.

[Alf Bentley]

 

Give Chilwell a run in the team, drop Wes and bring in a mobile, decent-quality centre-half who can hit the ground running (easier said than done, I know).

Huth and Simpson have their limitations, but always have had - and it would be insanity to replace a whole defence mid-season.

 

Maybe Wes & Fuchs can bounce back (Wes is younger than Huth, I believe - and Fuchs hasn't been bad every game, just a lot recently).

 

Either way, a defence of Simpson-New CB-Huth-Chilwell might see us OK this season, then we'd have the summer to see whether other changes were needed.

[Gerard]

1 hour ago, Footballwipe said:

This is where hindsight or any future books would focus. The fact we were only too keen to give most players new deals millions in guaranteed income. Wes will happily sit on his deal until 2019 or 2020 and earn the £4m p/a. No team will touch him on that kind of salary.

 

I don't dispute financial rewards, they bought the club untold riches. I do dispute, like you, the long-term deals, when we were in position to make the transition in the summer. Nostalgia seemed to get in the eyes of a lot, when we could have started to phase out the older players with top quality replacements.

 

I advocated this in the summer. We should have done our best to hold on to Kante, Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel and Drinkwater and the rest of the team should have been considered for upgrades. I'm not saying replace the other six in one transfer window but just those position were ripe for an upgrade. If we could have brought in three top quality replacements for any of those six positions that would have been great. Obviously Kante went and we could do nothing about that but I'm sure people know what I mean.

 

Nostalgia has been our undoing. I've seen many people on here say they didn't want any of this squad to leave and didn't want Ulloa or Schlupp sold in the summer. I've also seen people claim that all our players performed equally well rather than give extra credit to the likes of Vardy, Mahrez, Kante, etc.

 

Stand still and fall behind is what we've done by not looking to upgrade our weakest players in our first XI. Our scattergun transfer policy in the summer has been abysmal as well.

[sk3since03]

Harsh on Fuchs. Considering the money we have spent , Fuchs cost us nothing and has been our most contstant performers since signing 

[sly1]

Champions of England your having a laugh it's disgrace city get this sorted bleeding laughing stock 

[MPH]

Not sure its worth singling out individuals...