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Has to go. He's completely devoid of any ideas on how to sort things. Team selections and tactics are all over the place. Signings in the main have been poor. 

 

Last year was was last year and will mean nothing if we go down. 

Which ever way you look at it, he's in charge, the blame lies with him. 

Needs to do the honourable thing and quit. 

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Just now, turtle2000 said:

Reality check:

(1) Leicester is a mediocre team (I support Swansea, I know about mediocre teams) that is precisely where it should be this season - the lower reaches of the Premiership. That's the club's natural place; it's obviously never going to be a top 6 club.

 

 

With all due respect, this is not really relevant to the situation. The club is not that minute that it couldn't build on our success last season. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to be under the impression that last season was about luck. It wasn't, it was about the club doing all the right things with the tools they had at their disposal.

 

What the club's natural place is is neither here nor there - the point is we won the league at a canter last season and were in a great position to maintain a high position in the league (not top, but certainly top 7), strengthen the squad with some shrewd, ambitious signings, and continue to play football with an entertaining and efficient philosophy. Make no mistake, that has all gone completely out the window now and that can only be put down to gross mismanagement by the club.

 

This isn't a dig at Ranieri specifically - I've stated numerous times that I do not agree with him shouldering the blame for this season alone and that he deserves a lot more respect than some people are giving him for his achievements last season. But the club as a whole has utterly fvcked up this season and it is not enough to say we're a 'mediocre club' as if we've not done anything wrong. We've done lots wrong, that's the reason why a team regresses so badly, so quickly.

 

We're also a proud club who have good crowds at home and away and we certainly expect better than we're being served up this season, regardless of last. 

 

I do agree with your general point that in many ways it would feel very wrong to sack Claudio, and that people shouldn't turn on him when times get tough (and I include the players in that). But I will not accept that we shouldn't demand more. Some of the performances this season wouldn't have been good enough if we were in League 1 and playing a cup tie against a Premiership team.

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Fed up with being lectured about being a "bad supporter" or "everything that is wrong with modern football" for wanting to do something - anything - to arrest my club's nosedive.

 

A message for other clubs' fans reading this - none of us expected another league title. All we want is a team to be proud of and failing that a team with basic levels of professional competence.

 

We've been absolutely woeful in about 80% of our games this season. We've scored one league goal since Christmas. We're the worst team to watch in the league by a country mile.

 

Yet we still get a full house every week, the atmosphere was excellent in the first half (all things considered) and yet we still get absolutely nothing back from the players and empty platitudes from the manager.

 

Yes, last year was a beautiful aberration but our football club cannot be frozen at that moment in time.

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Absolute legend for what he achieved... always will be 

 

BUT...

 

here and now things need to change. The only change I can see that will have the required impact is changing the manager. It's worked wonders for Hull and Swansea.

 

The players need a fresh face to try and impress

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11 minutes ago, turtle2000 said:

Not a Leicester fan (so sue me), but I looked at this site to see if it was actually true that some Foxes supporters are in favour of the club sacking Ranieri. Didn't think it could possibly be true, but seems that it is.

 

With apologies to those many, many supporters with reasonable attitudes (that owners should come out in support of Ranieri, there needs to be more clarity, there needs to be a change of tactics etc etc), those of you calling for Ranieri to be sacked are the most miserable, deluded, fairweather fans football has ever seen.

 

Reality check:

(1) Leicester is a mediocre team (I support Swansea, I know about mediocre teams) that is precisely where it should be this season - the lower reaches of the Premiership. That's the club's natural place; it's obviously never going to be a top 6 club. 

(2) Somehow, by some sublime alchemy, last season, YOU WON THE ****ING PREMIER LEAGUE. 

(3) To repeat: LAST SEASON, YOU WON THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

(4) That achievement lies somewhere among the most remarkable football stories of all time - probably in the top ten. Have Granada ever won La Liga? Offenheim the Bundesliga? Of course they haven't. Teams like Leicester City simply don't win national championships, let alone the richest national championship in the world. 

(5) Nothing remotely that good will ever happen to Leicester City again. Ever, ever again.

 

Rather than marvelling at this, and basking in the glory of it and looking forward to a Champions' League (YES. CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE. A COMPETITION YOU WILL NEVER BE IN AGAIN) second round tie against Sevilla, and appreciating the fact that you are now an incredibly well-liked club, youse lot are talking about sacking the guy who made the miracle possible.

 

If you sack Claudio Ranieri, you will not only tarnish last season's achievement within Leicester City FC, but your reputation outside in the wider world of football will go from one of the most beloved teams in the land (hard to remember any team that has enjoyed the general goodwill Leicester have had since last season) to the most hated club in Britain. The most soulless, least grateful, most vilified.

 

Enjoy the miracle that has happened to Leicester City. Who gives a sh*t if you play Championship football next season? It's just football. Last season you were witness to a biblical miracle, way beyond 'just football'.

 

Jesus wept. Ffs, you have a great club, don't ruin it.

 

Neville and Carragher seemed to disagree on Sky, they said something has to change so as NOT to be relegated and tarnish what we achieved last season. Nobody wants Ranieri sacked after what he achieved last season but THAT WAS LAST SEASON, if the players are revolting then it's not working. It's player power and it sucks but we want to see premier league next season as I'm sure you do too

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He's fine for a week for me. If we are out the fa cup and in the bottom three this time next week I'll hardly be shouting from the stands but he can go for me. Victim of his own success? Maybe, but this can only go on for so long. I can barely remember a game we didn't score in last season, Bournemouth? Peopele can (rightly) slate our defending but we've not scored a league goal this year which is equally as worrying.

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I do wonder why other fans seem so concern with us. Showing up to our parade, commenting on our forums. How about this, you concentrate on your teams and we'll concentrate ours. You know **** all. Just like we don't know the ins and outs of yours.

 

very unwelcoming today. 

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Today there was no confidence and we never looked liked scoring

 

Although we gave it a go in the first half it was nothing compared to last season and worrying we are being outplayed which never happened in the great escape season and getting hammered.Only one shot on target at home and we never really looked threatening apart from the Mahrez free kick.

 

 Ranieri now 7/4 to be the next manager to be sacked but if we lose to Swansea I think that will be it rightly or wrongly.He was brilliant last year and however much we want him to succeed  he has never been in a relegation scrap and although he talks about fight and togetherness that completely evaporated when we went a goal down.There were some positives (Ndidi particularly) but we look like a team on the slide. Kasper was fuming at the end of the first half and there was no response in the second.  Unlike all the other teams at the bottom that are progressing we are drifting and  making other teams look a lot better than they were.

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15 minutes ago, GavParket said:

9 months on from winning the league, suddenly Claudio has gone from legend to villain. 

Stick with it, he will turn this around. 

From following this club for over 35 years, just support the lads and the rest will take care of itself. 

Sensible suggestions paint a bigger picture, and as much as I like the man and as much as I see many elements coming into play here and as much as I detest some of our player's commitment, effort and focus on the pitch (in particular the senior ones), the manager's the classic culprit in this saga.

It hurts probably more than it should, because Ranieri led us to the bloody league title, a feat that will likely go unrivaled for years, if not decades to come.

 

But sentiment shouldn't overly interfere with rationality.

 

Either he miraculously stays and we manage a PL survival at the last gasp - he'll have to "retire" regardless. He's been found out due to his stubbornness in the tactical area and rewarding loyalty when he should've benched many of our underperfomers more often.

Or he throws in the towel himself - and I couldn't blame him given the fact that some of the players need a reality check and let him down big time.

Judging by what Hitesh has pointed at, we should here news in that regard sooner than later.

 

I'm quite saddened that it's come to this, but mismanagement and incompetence on several levels has seen us lose out on the best chance of establishing ourselves in the top flight ever.

 

IF Ranieri should leave or get the sack, my hope is we see a tabula rasa in the squad, as well as adequate consequences in the scouting department and our recruitment team. Because they do bear their fair share of the guilt here.

 

Well, never dull being a Leicester fan, is it?

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3 minutes ago, ttfn said:

Fed up with being lectured about being a "bad supporter" or "everything that is wrong with modern football" for wanting to do something - anything - to arrest my club's nosedive.

In fact it's the complete opposite. It's incredibly patronising when people consider you a lesser fan because you are actually looking out for the best interests of the club and not the interests of one person.

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If this season proves anything it's that last season's success did not really have a lot to do with Ranieri. He took over a team on a roll and on the up, it picked itself. This season has been a disaster from the start and made the worse for his tactics and the players he chooses , not to mention the baffling subs. the truth is he has been found out and the players know it.

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It pains me to say it, but he needs to go now. He's clearly lost the dressing room, and it's game over the minute we concede. 

 

I'll be forever grateful for what he achieved here last season, and actually think he deserves a hell of a lot better, but we have to be pragmatic, ruthless even. I wouldn't want to see him unceremoniously sacked and would actually prefer him to replace Rudkin as DoF, especially after the absolute abortion of a transfer policy we've had since the summer. 

 

I would like to see a young manager come in with fresh ideas who isn't afraid to shake up the team. I would like to see Kasper given the captaincy and the new man to make it clear that there are no safe places in the side whatsoever because, if we're honest, who deserves the status of mainstay at the moment?

 

As for potential managers who'd fit the bill; Wagner at Huddersfield, Dardai at Hertha Berlin, Gourvennec at Bordeaux or even giving it to someone like Hiddinck to the end of the season before appointing a full time and long term appointment in the summer should all be on the table right now. 

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13 minutes ago, Adster said:

It's the players who need sacking, not Ranieri. 

Unfortunately he and the people in charge of recruitment who actually have that power didn't do it when they had the opportunity. So they've got to to take the blame.

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Just now, Bunyip said:

If this season proves anything it's that last season's success did not really have a lot to do with Ranieri. He took over a team on a roll and on the up, it picked itself. This season has been a disaster from the start and made the worse for his tactics and the players he chooses , not to mention the baffling subs. the truth is he has been found out and the players know it.

Spot on!

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2 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

He's fine for a week for me. If we are out the fa cup and in the bottom three this time next week I'll hardly be shouting from the stands but he can go for me. Victim of his own success? Maybe, but this can only go on for so long. I can barely remember a game we didn't score in last season, Bournemouth? Peopele can (rightly) slate our defending but we've not scored a league goal this year which is equally as worrying.

And what if we are still in FA Cup, beat Swansea but back to same performances again from Sevilla/Liverpool? 

 

Agree with attack needing to come under criticism too - as a whole side we are failing though, oppositions are allowed 60% of possession, 15+ attempts at goal and spend around 3/4 of a game in our half - errors in defence are going to happen when a team dominate a game this much and little opportunities for us to score too

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22 minutes ago, turtle2000 said:

Not a Leicester fan (so sue me), but I looked at this site to see if it was actually true that some Foxes supporters are in favour of the club sacking Ranieri. Didn't think it could possibly be true, but seems that it is.

 

With apologies to those many, many supporters with reasonable attitudes (that owners should come out in support of Ranieri, there needs to be more clarity, there needs to be a change of tactics etc etc), those of you calling for Ranieri to be sacked are the most miserable, deluded, fairweather fans football has ever seen.

 

Reality check:

(1) Leicester is a mediocre team (I support Swansea, I know about mediocre teams) that is precisely where it should be this season - the lower reaches of the Premiership. That's the club's natural place; it's obviously never going to be a top 6 club. 

(2) Somehow, by some sublime alchemy, last season, YOU WON THE ****ING PREMIER LEAGUE. 

(3) To repeat: LAST SEASON, YOU WON THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

(4) That achievement lies somewhere among the most remarkable football stories of all time - probably in the top ten. Have Granada ever won La Liga? Offenheim the Bundesliga? Of course they haven't. Teams like Leicester City simply don't win national championships, let alone the richest national championship in the world. 

(5) Nothing remotely that good will ever happen to Leicester City again. Ever, ever again.

 

Rather than marvelling at this, and basking in the glory of it and looking forward to a Champions' League (YES. CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE. A COMPETITION YOU WILL NEVER BE IN AGAIN) second round tie against Sevilla, and appreciating the fact that you are now an incredibly well-liked club, youse lot are talking about sacking the guy who made the miracle possible.

 

If you sack Claudio Ranieri, you will not only tarnish last season's achievement within Leicester City FC, but your reputation outside in the wider world of football will go from one of the most beloved teams in the land (hard to remember any team that has enjoyed the general goodwill Leicester have had since last season) to the most hated club in Britain. The most soulless, least grateful, most vilified.

 

Enjoy the miracle that has happened to Leicester City. Who gives a sh*t if you play Championship football next season? It's just football. Last season you were witness to a biblical miracle, way beyond 'just football'.

 

Jesus wept. Ffs, you have a great club, don't ruin it.

 

I think you make some great points and some of our fans do make me cringe.

 

i do not necessarily agree with all your reality check points as our owners have and are extremely ambitious but I do completely agree that sacking CR would be ridiculous.....

 

 

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If he is going to go, then I hope it is with him resigning. Would then like Hiddink until the end of the season, and in the meantime we are looking for a new long-term manager to come in, in the summer, with a big budget to spend on buying a whole new defence. 

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Just repeats the same shit, on the touchline he looks lost & defeated, there seems no way back for him right now in my opinion. 

 

This is much much worse than two season's ago, despite being bottom we never lost by two goals or more, this season we've been absolutely destroyed on numerous occasions.

 

We need a motivator, Ranieri isn't a motivator. In all honesty of all the times he has been linked with a return, this could be the perfect time to bring back Martin O'Neil, if he can't motivate those players then nobody will.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ttfn said:

Fed up with being lectured about being a "bad supporter" or "everything that is wrong with modern football" for wanting to do something - anything - to arrest my club's nosedive.

 

A message for other clubs' fans reading this - none of us expected another league title. All we want is a team to be proud of and failing that a team with basic levels of professional competence.

 

We've been absolutely woeful in about 80% of our games this season. We've scored one league goal since Christmas. We're the worst team to watch in the league by a country mile.

 

Yet we still get a full house every week, the atmosphere was excellent in the first half (all things considered) and yet we still get absolutely nothing back from the players and empty platitudes from the manager.

 

Yes, last year was a beautiful aberration but our football club cannot be frozen at that moment in time.

Fantastic ****ing post!

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