weller54 Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 25 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Just seen he's meant to be in the stands today, dunno if that's been mentioned Bet he leaves after 14 seconds when we go 1 down......
Gerard Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 This doesn't reflect well on FIFA and the player has been hung out to dry here. Also there are no losers here if the registration is accepted so you would think there would be little resistance for a solution to be found. I still think we win this on appeal as it's in no ones interest for this not to happen. A player's career is at stake and it reflects badly on FIFA if they insist on being a jobsworth so I think all parties will look for a way to resolve this issue.
Countryfox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said: Something I noticed on this thread was an apparent (judging by the bizarre references to Brexit and the EU) conflation of FIFA and UEFA. Although, to be fair, one could argue it's all the same s**t under a different name. I think that was me !! ... 1 hour ago, A pint of Exmoor Fox said: As a solicitor ... Ohhh Peaky, we have someone who might just understand some of those big words you use !! ... See every cloud does indeed have a Silva lining ...
Livid Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 7 minutes ago, weller54 said: Bet he leaves after 14 seconds when we go 1 down...... Don't joke!!
Livid Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 5 minutes ago, Gerard said: This doesn't reflect well on FIFA and the player has been hung out to dry here. Also there are no losers here if the registration is accepted so you would think there would be little resistance for a solution to be found. I still think we win this on appeal as it's in no ones interest for this not to happen. A player's career is at stake and it reflects badly on FIFA if they insist on being a jobsworth so I think all parties will look for a way to resolve this issue. Agreed Silva plays under their umbrella. To hang any player out to dry like that because of an admin cock up made somewhere is shameful. Then again this is an organisation that knows no shame.
WigstonWanderer Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 35 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Just seen he's meant to be in the stands today, dunno if that's been mentioned That's probably while there's a chance of him remaining at Sporting or at least LCFC extricating themselves from the deal. If we accept that he is a Leicester player I'm sure he will be allowed to train with the first team.
ZeGuy Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 5 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: That's probably while there's a chance of him remaining at Sporting or at least LCFC extricating themselves from the deal. If we accept that he is a Leicester player I'm sure he will be allowed to train with the first team. The deal's done. He's a Leicester player. There is no changing that, if the FIFA doesn't step back, he won't be able to train.
FoxFossil Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 4 minutes ago, Countryfox said: I think that was me !! ... Ohhh Peaky, we have someone who might just understand some of those big words you use !! ... See every cloud does indeed have a Silva lining ...
Merging Cultures Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 I'm a long time lurker, first time poster and supporter for over 25 years. The Silva "transfer" saga has driven me to finally joining. As a solicitor with no experience in commercial contracts and sports law (property law is my thing) I don't know if City or FIFA are legally right or wrong on this. Some really good, persuasive arguments in this thread though and believe it or not English contract law is very based on common sense so they may be right. However, I don't think the club will go to the CAS and challenge FIFA. It would probably take a month or two at least and there is never any guarantee you will win a court case. Basically City could risk a big legal bill just to get Silva for a few games. The cost of losing (poss. Low likelihood of winning plus high costs) probably outweighs the potential benefit (Silva plays a couple games). I also think the club's lawyers have told them they probably they won't win. It is all very "We're working together...solution...all parties" etc. If they had a strong case they'd be saying much stronger things in public, like the Sporting president has, or even applied to the CAS already. Just me reading between the lines and could be wrong but if my Firm were instructed in a commercial dispute then this is what would usually happen. Gutted for the player and the club.Yes!Exactly my take too. CAS too long, no guarantee of winning. And if they had evidence, a strong case, they'd be strong now too as it isn't a legal issue at the moment, i.e. not been taken to court and not likely to, it is just an internal issue with a members club. If the club had a leg to stand on, they'd be publicly showing it.
CyprusFox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 hour ago, Livid said: Agreed Silva plays under their umbrella. To hang any player out to dry like that because of an admin cock up made somewhere is shameful. Then again this is an organisation that knows no shame. Thought that had all changed, it would seem not!
Guest Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 hour ago, ZeGuy said: The deal's done. He's a Leicester player. There is no changing that, if the FIFA doesn't step back, he won't be able to train. surely then we just hire him on as part of the training staff
ZeGuy Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 Just now, winchesterton said: surely then we just hire him on as part of the training staff Or as a garderener.
Matt Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 2 hours ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Just seen he's meant to be in the stands today, dunno if that's been mentioned Nah, not allowed in the stands mate, FIFA have said he's got a stadium ban until the issue is resolved aswell.
Clever Fox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 3 hours ago, SheppyFox said: I swear it was the English that invented the beautiful game? Like a lot of things however we don't really get any say do we, Europeans do. Probably right but it's a pity we didn't have Bernie Ecclestone back then.
Sir Shep Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 I ve just convinced myself that he's injured and out until January. Works got me anyway.
HoustonFox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 Anyone done the joke that Adrien Silva will appeal the appeal if we are successful?
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 16 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said: I'm missing something here. If I've read this correctly they had an extension of one hour making the deadline midnight. Part of the registration document was received just after midnight, so beyond the extended deadline. Exactly the same situation as in Silva's case! Surely this sets a precedent? @vanity Celtics extension was granted by the SPFL, our extension had to be granted by FIFA, because Silva was an international transfer. I don't know who, in the end, waved the Guidetti loan through. The SPFL, the SFA, FIFA??? My guess would be, that the people who had the power to grant an extension of the deadline, also had the power to accept a belated application. The fact, that in the Guidetti case the Scottish Professional Football League was responsible for the extension of the deadline and not FIFA, shows that both cases are not really comparable. Different circumstances (loan move from England to Scotland/ international transfer from Portugal to England),different sets of rules, different jurisdictions.
davieG Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 16 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Celtics extension was granted by the SPFL, our extension had to be granted by FIFA, because Silva was an international transfer. I don't know who, in the end, waved the Guidetti loan through. The SPFL, the SFA, FIFA??? My guess would be, that the people who had the power to grant an extension of the deadline, also had the power to accept a belated application. The fact, that in the Guidetti case the Scottish Professional Football League was responsible for the extension of the deadline and not FIFA, shows that both cases are not really comparable. Different circumstances (loan move from England to Scotland/ international transfer from Portugal to England),different sets of rules, different jurisdictions. I would have thought that as the FA and the SFA are entirely different and separate Associations under UEFA and hence FIFA that any transfer would require FIFA approval as it would also be an international move. Certainly both organisations are keen to keep their separate identities and compete in international competitions as different nations.
mozartfox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 9 minutes ago, davieG said: I would have thought that as the FA and the SFA are entirely different and separate Associations under UEFA and hence FIFA that any transfer would require FIFA approval as it would also be an international move. Certainly both organisations are keen to keep their separate identities and compete in international competitions as different nations. You are correct. Some years back AFC Wimbledon won a FA Trophy game only for other team (Ebbsfleet United) to be awarded the game due the fact the Wombles signed a player from the Welsh League and did not bother to get International Clearance.
whitwickfox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 Just think if the deal had gone through, he still wouldn't get game time for 8 weeks seems shakey now has a love affair with king
Countryfox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 minute ago, whitwickfox said: Just think if the deal had gone through, he still wouldn't get game time for 8 weeks seems shakey now has a love affair with king Didnt we score after he came on ?
Ashley Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 minute ago, Countryfox said: Didnt we score after he came on ? Did he have any part in the penalty/Goal or was that Gray?
Countryfox Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 minute ago, Ashley said: Did he have any part in the penalty/Goal or was that Gray? Yep .. He was on the pitch.
Foxhateram Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 1 minute ago, Ashley said: Did he have any part in the penalty/Goal or was that Gray? Didn't he win the ball in midfield to start the attack? Not sure if it was this particular one. But he started a few attacks by winning it in the middle.
funkyrobot Posted 9 September 2017 Posted 9 September 2017 4 minutes ago, Ashley said: Did he have any part in the penalty/Goal or was that Gray? I think you'll find the major contributor to earning the penalty/goal was Vardy not gray ?
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