midland_red Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 I have always believed (without any evidence to be sure) that Shakey wasn't the owners first choice. I think they were rebuffed because higher profile targets looked at the structure of the club and deicide it would work. Nothing has changed in that respect...
waylander Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 10 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: would also get my vote, except not so sure on his tactics Thought he would dark swarthy Hispanic Latin . I get the picture ?
Happy Fox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 Left field appointments: Lee Johnson; Bristol City; Laurent Blanc: Unattached.
yorkie1999 Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 32 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: I don't think the board have any real respect for Shakespeare, every time he's asked a question on most things his answer is 'I don't know, have you heard anything?' or 'I didn't want that to happen'. Not only is he not in control he's not even kept in the loop, he is by all accounts still the coach but this time he has to pick the team too. I also wish he'd stop being so boring when interviewed! When he's asked a question he goes on a long ramble about how to be a good manager etc when a simple yes or no would suffice. It's agonising when as he's only been in the job 2 minutes and we're playing crap yet he goes on like he won everything there is to win and he's passing on little known wisdom to the journalist. I think replying to the press with a I don’t know is more of a polite way of saying fvck off and mind your own business
ealingfox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 I wouldn't hold your breath on any manager who currently has a club. We couldn't attract players from Watford and Burnley when we were champions and offering Champions League and huge pay rises. No chance we could attract their flipping managers when they are doing miles better than us. For whatever reason, we aren't an attractive prospect at all. Unlike players, managers care about more than just the weekly wage and amount of playing time on offer.
Stadt Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 We should have got Marco Silva in, he's performed very well in every job he's had
FoxyPalace.com Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 Would be happy with somebody who has a pedigree and actually knows what they are doing. Somebody that can see the midfield needs a over haul, somebody that actually like to pass the ball a bit instead of a Championship hoof match. Somebody that will have to the balls to get rid of Andy King and the likes who are clearly never going to be good enough. Somebody who can actually cement us a spot within the top 8 and actually make us proud.
Buce Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 3 hours ago, Farrington fox said: People are saying Rodgers, that's the Rodgers who lost the plot at Liverpool! His stats at Liverpool are superior to Klopp's.
STUHILL Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 The owners will persist with Shakey for another 5-6 games until it becomes clear we are well and truly in the relegation mix-up (again). They will then turn to.. Sam Allardyce who will have had enough of retirement and wants to get back in the game. Prediction made. 01/10/17.
Stadt Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 Not sure how interested Niko Kovac would be in managing us but we should try
Matt Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 17 minutes ago, ealingfox said: I wouldn't hold your breath on any manager who currently has a club. We couldn't attract players from Watford and Burnley when we were champions and offering Champions League and huge pay rises. No chance we could attract their flipping managers when they are doing miles better than us. For whatever reason, we aren't an attractive prospect at all. Unlike players, managers care about more than just the weekly wage and amount of playing time on offer. That's why we need new personnel within the club first and foremost before anything else. The current team who work to bring in new players and staff are quite quite obviously inept, idiots, who couldn't negotiate their way out of a revolving door, alot of irony in that aswell...we keep going round in circles.
Guest Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 5 hours ago, Matt said: We need to look deeper than just replacing the manager. We will not move forward or even tread water with some of the current personnel at the club, we need upgrades and an overhaul. This. I wouldn't mind the current issues so much, if there was a clearer indication that we had long-term ambitions. Like if we were building a world-class academy; that would tell me that we're shaping up to be another 'southampton' if nothing else. Maybe not a top 6, but a clear sense of direction. Currently, it feels like we are just faffing about. At least we still have our world-class groundsmen.
st albans fox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 28 minutes ago, ealingfox said: I wouldn't hold your breath on any manager who currently has a club. We couldn't attract players from Watford and Burnley when we were champions and offering Champions League and huge pay rises. No chance we could attract their flipping managers when they are doing miles better than us. For whatever reason, we aren't an attractive prospect at all. Unlike players, managers care about more than just the weekly wage and amount of playing time on offer. Not in total agreement with that - money is a lot to managers whose career could be a lot shorter than a player and whose salary isn't generally as high, nor contract as long However, getting a prem manger to jump ship to us mid season would be v unlikely indeed
ZeGuy Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 23 minutes ago, STUHILL said: The owners will persist with Shakey for another 5-6 games until it becomes clear we are well and truly in the relegation mix-up (again). They will then turn to.. Sam Allardyce who will have had enough of retirement and wants to get back in the game. Prediction made. 01/10/17. I think he has until the end of this month.
somebum Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 30 minutes ago, Wookie said: We should have got Marco Silva in, he's performed very well in every job he's had Right on
CosbehFox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 Big fan of how Silva is the retrospective messiah when he's had 7 games at Watford. Could anyone tell me what Shakespeare's first 7 games were like ?
Lcfcrory Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik names that stand out are obviously tuchel ancelotti enrique and blanc
Stadt Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Big fan of how Silva is the retrospective messiah when he's had 7 games at Watford. Could anyone tell me what Shakespeare's first 7 games were like ? I was big fan of Silva before he took the Watford job, have a read up on what he did at Estoril.
FoxFossil Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 32 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: I know it's unlikely, but why not Chris Wilder from Sheffield United? His record wherever he's been is unbelievable and they were saying about it pre match on Sky Sports for the 3 o'clock games yesterday. Could be a manager who just needs a break at a prem job. Chris Wilder is a Blade through and through. Way they are going he will be Prem manager soon if he stays where he is.
Guest Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 36 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: I know it's unlikely, but why not Chris Wilder from Sheffield United? His record wherever he's been is unbelievable and they were saying about it pre match on Sky Sports for the 3 o'clock games yesterday. Could be a manager who just needs a break at a prem job. interesting. I was going to suggest him partly based on his time at Halifax ages ago, always liked him. He's got a good mentality about him - not a million miles away from Pearson's better qualities.
Finn Claw II Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 5 hours ago, norwichfox said: really? Can't help but think about his motivational methods at Sunderland, we'd need Samaritans on a hot line imo. Fair point. He was a great manager at Everton but that seems like a long time ago
Sionnach gorm Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 4 hours ago, Matt said: Not to mention all the staff he brought in who have subsequently been lost or thrown away, the gems of Mahrez, Vardy, Cambaisso to name but three. What an utter nob, wish he'd never come to this club, wish we were still in League One and never got out of there, maybe even fell further down the league pyramid just for a laugh like. If you can't see the good this man did for our football club and would rather focus on the bad then you really are an Ostrich, you don't deserve to support this club in the Premier League and ultimately don't deserve to be supporting a club who has won the Premier League - whilst he had 'nothing' to do with the title win per se, he laid the foundations for it, without him we probably wouldn't be in the Premier League and i'm quite confident in saying we wouldn't have won it. I'm not saying we'd have won it if he was in charge, again i'm confident in making such a statement that we wouldn't have. I'm a big enough man to admit that (It's stating the obvious tbh) but the anti-Pearson brigade give him no credit whatsoever and it amazes me. He's a good championship manager...that's it.
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