Keep or Sell?

[LCFC hub]

 Pretty straight forward. Would you keep or Sell these players? 

[VLC86]

I think with most of them it isn't really a straight yes or no.

 

Slimani- We need a different type of striker but for the game time he is getting he probably wouldn't be happy. Keep If we don't sign another big man, sell if we do.

Simmo- If he wants to fight for his place keep.

King- Looking at the situation we were in for the last month I would keep him for emergencies but if he wants out let him go.

Morgan- Keep but he has to know he is now not a starter.

Amartey- He's a strange one who has not yet reached his potential but I'm not convinced how much he wants to push to be in the starting 11.

[Gerard]

Surely we'd sell them all for good offers?

 

All five could still have a role to play in the squad but hardly anyone wants to see them as anything but squad players.

[UPinCarolina]

We need Simpson as one of the only true RBs on our books, unless we are prepared to bring forward a U23. He's still serviceable when healthy and arguably has never 'downed tools' or given less than 100% effort for LCFC.

King should be allowed to go if he can find a suitor. He'll be of use to someone, and he looked to be coming along by the end of his time with Swans.

Morgan can only be kept if he realizes he's no longer a starter. Still serviceable when fully fit and rested.

Amartey ought to be given a preseason to bed in and see where he ends up under Puel; depending on signings I could see him as a loan candidate.

Silmani should be sold if we can recoup anything decent from him, otherwise he ought to stay and fight for a place.

[Koke]

Keep them all bar King. King is 29 and can still fetch decent money. We are loaded in CM and King us probably 5th choice.

 

Keep Amartey for utility purposes.

 

Wes, Simpson and Slimani are all decent squad players.

[STUHILL]

Wes is only tricky one for me. He could be useful to have around in terms of team spirit, but I don't want him starting or as captain next season and fear that if he does stay, then there is a chance that may happen! 

 

I actually think both him and Simpson will definitely be staying and refuse any move away, as no one is likely to pay the wages we are. 

 

Simpson: Keep (useful back-up RB)

Slimani : Sell (unfortunately just doesn't suit our play) 

Amartey : Keep (use as CB cover)

Andy King : Sell (hopefully get 10million)

 

add these to the sell/release list too - Musa, Hamer, Ulloa and Mendy 

 

We will get nothing for Kaputska so I'd actually hang on to him in the very slim chance he starts performing in the reserves. 

 

Not fussed about James either way. Probably be our Andy King next season and fill in as a 4th/5th choice CM. 

[brucey]

Keep x5

[kingfox]

Slimani - So surprised to see many fans willing to give up on him. Last pre season he was our best player, in the seven games he started last season he scored five goals. In the last league game he played against Huddersfield he destroyed them in the second half. Slimani made improvements, yet Puel was stupid enough to let him go on loan.

 

Simpson - Good enough to be our back up right back.

 

King - Great servant, club legend but it's time to go.

 

Morgan - I believe we can get another season out of him but of course he shouldn't start, keep him as 3rd/4th choice centre back.

 

Amartey - I honestly don't know where he fits, I'd send him out on loan.

[KingsX]

1 minute ago, Gerard said:

Surely we'd sell them all for good offers?

 

All five could still have a role to play in the squad but hardly anyone wants to see them as anything but squad players.

 

This.  How many of us see any of these players as possible starters?  One good thing about Puel's (first?) year is that we are now clear where these vets stand.

 

Simpson,  Morgan, Slimani, and King are on high wages.  The first two especially, to "sell" for more than peanuts, may not even be an option, so what any of us think isn't very relevant.

 

 

[STUHILL]

1 minute ago, kingfox said:

Slimani - So surprised to see many fans willing to give up on him. Last pre season he was our best player, in the seven games he started last season he scored five goals. In the last league game he played against Huddersfield he destroyed them in the second half. Slimani made improvements, yet Puel was stupid enough to let him go on loan.

 

Simpson - Good enough to be our back up right back.

 

King - Great servant, club legend but it's time to go.

 

Morgan - I believe we can get another season out of him but of course he shouldn't start, keep him as 3rd/4th choice centre back.

 

Amartey - I honestly don't know where he fits, I'd send him out on loan.

I agree with this but him and Vardy just don't work, as neither are good at playing that Iheanacho role of dropping slightly deeper and both him and Vardy are at their best when playing the lone striker and are the focal point of the attack.

Therefore he is only going to play when Vardy doesn't, and Vardy rightly will be playing as many minutes as possible for us. 

 

I can't see Slimani sitting on the bench and he isn't really a "plan B" for us as he doesn't win headers from long balls, like Ulloa used to do so well for us. 

I also think Puel sending him on loan was a sign that he doesn't see him as part as his plans either. 

 

Even with all that, if we have Slimani as our 3rd striker next season, then I will hardly be complaining! He is decent striker. 

[RowlattsFox]

I'd sell Slimani and Amartey, I do think they both have their merits but we can also maybe get some money back on them. China please?

 

If King is happy to stay I'd keep him, assuming we don't buy any additional midfielders. Would rather we let James and Mendy go. Given Iborra, Silva and Ndidi have had a bit of niggles I think King may still have a part to play. Actually think he'll the way Puel wants his central midfielders to be. He will probably want to leave though.

 

Happy to keep Simpson has back up but this again depends how disruptive this will be.

 

I'd release Morgan on a free personally, it would be a shame if he has a final season with us when he plays very little football.

[Lovejoy]

Get rid of all five.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Slimani -  I'd keep him, honestly don't think he's been that bad for us but we definitely overpaid. However, I don't think he'll be happy to be a squad player so I think it's out of our hands a bit

Simp - He's not good enough for first team, but would be good for backup, don't want to go back to just having one right back

King - Heart says stay forever, but he doesn't really offer us anything anymore bar a player to come in when we've got Yeovil in the cup

Morgan - Keep, no point getting rid but reduce his role in the squad

Amartey - Keep, but give him a loan out.

[Guy]

I can't decide on the best outcome for any of them to be honest.

 

King is past his best but still chips in with the odd good game or three throughout the course of a season when need be so it would perhaps make sense to keep him in the squad for next season but I think a change would do him good and maybe Swansea will put in an offer as he's more a Championship standard player now than a Premier League one.

 

Slimani is definitely the most frustrating from five and the argument still stands that he doesn't suit our general style of play, doesn't win enough headers and the link up play is hit and miss with him as the main target man. Also that he and Vardy cancel one another out when they both start together up front. Although I know he hasn't started many games in his two seasons with us, something like two league goals for last season and a couple in the League Cup early rounds says it all!

 

Amartey is still the unknown quantity by and large, I could see him being sold as much as I could still see him staying as a valuable, if injury prone squad player.

 

Simpson and Morgan both produce question marks now too, was Morgan as effective minus Huth last season as with? - I think not. Is Simpson now past his best? He had a decent post title winning 2016-17 season in defence when the likes of Morgan and Huth were unable to replicate their form in the title winning season - but last season he was in and out the team - and found wanting in the main. I can't decide for the best on all five but I think Slimani will be the one most likely to be sold on to a club where he's likely to be a better fit......  

[Bayfox]

Would personally keep slim as we need an option. However expect us to sell and him to want to go.

 

Would keep Simpson if he's happy to play 2nd fiddle.

 

Kingy is a legend. The next birch. Keep.

 

Wes needs a golden handshake with the money in his pocket and sending back up the a46.

 

Would keep big Dan again if he's happy knowing he's a bit of a utility player but again like slim he may want to move on.

[hackneyfox]

54 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

We need Simpson as one of the only true RBs on our books, unless we are prepared to bring forward a U23. He's still serviceable when healthy and arguably has never 'downed tools' or given less than 100% effort for LCFC.

King should be allowed to go if he can find a suitor. He'll be of use to someone, and he looked to be coming along by the end of his time with Swans.

Morgan can only be kept if he realizes he's no longer a starter. Still serviceable when fully fit and rested.

Amartey ought to be given a preseason to bed in and see where he ends up under Puel; depending on signings I could see him as a loan candidate.

Silmani should be sold if we can recoup anything decent from him, otherwise he ought to stay and fight for a place.

Morgan has been fully fit and rested for the last few games. Based on that I don't want him on the bench, he'll cost us goals and points.

[Stadt]

Slimani wants to leave, he's still a saleable asset and if we're spending the reported fee on Pereira we're going to need to attempt to balance the books.

 

We need two RBs still, wouldn't make sense to shift the more defensive minded option in Simpson.

 

King, sad to see him go but for the good of his career it's probably best he goes.

 

Morgan, I think we'd struggle to shift due to wages and his age but probably best he goes.

 

Amartey, he's like those Christmas cracker tool-kits or kitchen multi-utensils, you think he's more useful than he is yet we still won't bin him. I would keep him though

[Ted Maul]

I'd keep them all as back up.

[martyn]

Slimani - Sell. Won't be happy with a limited role which he undoubtedly will have. Cash in whilst we could still get a decent amount back

Simpson - Keep. Fine as a back up

Morgan - Keep. Fine as a back up, and to keep some squad continuity.

King - Sell. Too many midfielders ahead of him now for us to keep him on.

Amartey - Keep. Think he has the ability to eventually force himself into the team. Not sure when, or in what position, but worth keeping for another year at least.

Edited 18 May 2018 by martyn

[lgfualol]

1. Sell - unhappy here

2. Keep - dont mind, as long as our new RB doesnt get injured he is fine as backup

3. Sell - cant really keep him around as 5th choice. Doesn't offer enough. Hamza should get his game time.

4. Keep unless he throws his toys out of his pram

5. Probably sell. Doesnt seem to be progressing here.

[hackneyfox]

Based on recent performances and the fact that he'll be even older next season I can't comprehend why people want to keep Morgan.

We need better than him on the bench, preferably a younger player for the future or someone like Evans.

[Duncan_K]

Every single player is for sale, the only debate is price. Of those 5 i would say:

 

Slimani- £20 million if we sell, take a loss but not a big one otherwise keep

Simmo- £5 million if someone who will give him game time comes in but otherwise keep as top 2 choice

King- if he wants out let him go on a free

Morgan- Agree with the point of 'Keep but he has to know he is now not a starter' if he's not ok with that then let him go on a free

Amartey- £10 million or keep

[foxy boxing]

Keep Wes and Simpson for one more season, while looking for younger, better upgrades, send Amartey on loan see if he does anything! If he does nothing get rid and Sell Slimani( who wants to leave anyway, because he will never be the main striker and sell King, he probably needs a fresh challenge as he will always find himself out of the team here. And we need players that will do a job in the first team.

[David Hankey]

All those who have been out on loan, get rid. They have not appeared for us since January and obviously do not figure in future plans or else why send them out. I agree, keep Morgan for the time being. Simmo can go and King is well passed his best. Look forward not back.

[kingfox]

2 hours ago, STUHILL said:

I agree with this but him and Vardy just don't work, as neither are good at playing that Iheanacho role of dropping slightly deeper and both him and Vardy are at their best when playing the lone striker and are the focal point of the attack.

Therefore he is only going to play when Vardy doesn't, and Vardy rightly will be playing as many minutes as possible for us. 

 

I can't see Slimani sitting on the bench and he isn't really a "plan B" for us as he doesn't win headers from long balls, like Ulloa used to do so well for us. 

I also think Puel sending him on loan was a sign that he doesn't see him as part as his plans either. 

 

Even with all that, if we have Slimani as our 3rd striker next season, then I will hardly be complaining! He is decent striker. 

Maybe not but not having a plan B for the second half of the season was a ridiculous decision by Puel. Last pre season and in the cup games especially you could see improvements in Slimani's game, he was holding the ball up better and his link play especially was fantastic. His heading ability improved too tbh, he was actually making an effort to jump.

 

Fans bang on about getting Rondon but what's the big difference between him and Slim? Just because Rondon has done well against us in the past he's therefore a must buy...absolutely ridiculous. My neighbour supports West Brom and so many times he has said, Rondon is all effort and nothing else, West Brom are down for a reason, one of those reasons being that Rondon is not prolific enough.

 

Slimani has been hit and miss but at times last season he looked really good, giving up on him would be a bad move in my opinion.