The "do they mean us?" thread pt 2

[CosbehFox]

2 hours ago, Yes said:

Leeds aside this season do any of them actually get more interest than us?

Newcastle, West Ham and Everton all have bigger fan bases by default and therefore more clicks/bigger TV audience. 

[Yes]

5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Newcastle, West Ham and Everton all have bigger fan bases by default and therefore more clicks/bigger TV audience. 

You’re right yet I still don’t think the media take much more of an interest in those clubs more than they do us in truth. 

[Kingleicester]

5 hours ago, Babylon said:

Well he's not signed his new contract yet. Come the end of this season he's got one year left, will be 29 and looking for what's probably his last big contract. 

 

If I were in charge, I'd be all over his agent. 

Said this a while back, should of gone all hell and leather for him

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

2 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Same with the top 4 champions League positions outside of the so called Big 6 only us and Everton have achieved it.

 

 

And Blackburn, Leeds and Newcastle...

Edited 5 January 2021 by Miquel The Work Geordie

[davieG]

http://www.stadium-maps.com/facts/epl_facebook_table.html

 

Facebook follower figures September 2020

 

01	Manchester United	73,232,586	20
02	Chelsea	47,999,496	6
03	Manchester City	37,914,272	6
04	Arsenal	37,805,765	13
05	Liverpool	34,035,421	19
06	Tottenham Hotspur	11,501,946	2
07	Leicester City	6,639,854	1
08	Everton	3,120,266	9
09	Southampton	3,061,035	0
10	Aston Villa	2,613,918	7
11	West Ham	2,321,132	0
12	Newcastle United	2,169,396	4
13	Crystal Palace	1,096,932	0
14	Wolverhampton Wanderers	937,312	3
15	Fulham	863,196	0
16	West Bromwich Albion	821,413	1
17	Leeds United	696,755	3
18	Burnley	431,692	2
19	Sheffield United	356,168	1
20	Brighton & Hove Albion	307,583	0

[4everfox]

14 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

And Blackburn, Leeds and Newcastle...

Don't forget Norwich

[CosbehFox]

23 minutes ago, Yes said:

You’re right yet I still don’t think the media take much more of an interest in those clubs more than they do us in truth. 

In a traditional season, they get more TV picks than us 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 minute ago, 4everfox said:

Don't forget Norwich

 

They've never been in the Gazprom, baby!

[4everfox]

2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

They've never been in the Gazprom, baby!

They definitely finished in the top four once in the early nineties

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

3 minutes ago, 4everfox said:

They definitely finished in the top four once in the early nineties

 

Doesn't equal Gazprom entry my brother!

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

And Blackburn, Leeds and Newcastle...

Forgot those

 

In my defence they are all over 18 years ago 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Rangers and Celtic have 1.3 million Twitter followers COMBINED

Leicester have 1.7 million

 

(I couldn't find a Twitter feed for Celtic reserves though...)

[Aus Fox]

11 hours ago, Spudulike said:

 

Bloody hell that is horrific!

[Aus Fox]

5 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Rangers and Celtic have 1.3 million Twitter followers COMBINED

Leicester have 1.7 million

 

(I couldn't find a Twitter feed for Celtic reserves though...)

Some teams are just bigger than Twitter, the question you need to ask is does Twitter have a Celtic reserves account?

[ozleicester]

11 hours ago, Spudulike said:

 

Thats a guilty pleasure   .. until that last bit. Pathetic really

[UpTheLeagueFox]

16 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Some teams are just bigger than Twitter, the question you need to ask is does Twitter have a Celtic reserves account?

It would be bigger than ours for sure....

[brucey]

8 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Some teams are just bigger than Twitter, the question you need to ask is does Twitter have a Celtic reserves account?

https://www.twitter.com/celticfcacademy

[Steven]

19 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Let's be honest a pundit will say Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, United or Arsenal can win the league because since it formed in 92, only us and Blackburn have won it other then those teams in the last 28 seasons.

 

Same with the top 4 champions League positions outside of the so called Big 6 only us and Everton have achieved it.

 

With regards to linking our best players to bigger clubs, it's hardly a surprise when we have sold, Kante 2016, Drinkwater 2017, Mahrez 2018, Maguire 2019, Chilwell 2020.

 

We are a selling club, very similar to how Spurs were viewed when they sold Berbatov, Carrick, Modric, Bale, Walker.

 

Only way to change that is to finish in the top 4 more and stop selling our players to rivals.

 

Same with Spurs, until they win something they will be now as bottlers.

 

Simple really.

 

You don't get given respect you have to earn it.

Sad but true.

[Nalis]

20 hours ago, Spudulike said:

 

Sounds like a pisstake

[mozartfox]

17 hours ago, davieG said:

http://www.stadium-maps.com/facts/epl_facebook_table.html

 

Facebook follower figures September 2020

 

01	Manchester United	73,232,586	20
02	Chelsea	47,999,496	6
03	Manchester City	37,914,272	6
04	Arsenal	37,805,765	13
05	Liverpool	34,035,421	19
06	Tottenham Hotspur	11,501,946	2
07	Leicester City	6,639,854	1
08	Everton	3,120,266	9
09	Southampton	3,061,035	0
10	Aston Villa	2,613,918	7
11	West Ham	2,321,132	0
12	Newcastle United	2,169,396	4
13	Crystal Palace	1,096,932	0
14	Wolverhampton Wanderers	937,312	3
15	Fulham	863,196	0
16	West Bromwich Albion	821,413	1
17	Leeds United	696,755	3
18	Burnley	431,692	2
19	Sheffield United	356,168	1
20	Brighton & Hove Albion	307,583	0

That 2015/2016 win certainly elevated our Club.   Suspect Instagram and Twitter similar positions. Surprised Liverpool not higher though.   Big 7 here we are.

[mozartfox]

9 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Some teams are just bigger than Twitter, the question you need to ask is does Twitter have a Celtic reserves account?

[Spudulike]

20 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Let's be honest a pundit will say Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, United or Arsenal can win the league because since it formed in 92, only us and Blackburn have won it other then those teams in the last 28 seasons.

 

Same with the top 4 champions League positions outside of the so called Big 6 only us and Everton have achieved it.

 

With regards to linking our best players to bigger clubs, it's hardly a surprise when we have sold, Kante 2016, Drinkwater 2017, Mahrez 2018, Maguire 2019, Chilwell 2020.

 

We are a selling club, very similar to how Spurs were viewed when they sold Berbatov, Carrick, Modric, Bale, Walker.

 

Only way to change that is to finish in the top 4 more and stop selling our players to rivals.

 

Same with Spurs, until they win something they will be now as bottlers.

 

Simple really.

 

You don't get given respect you have to earn it.

"You don't get given respect you have to earn it". 

 

How many top 6's or trophies do we need to win to earn respect? It seems to me that respect is unrelated to how much coverage we get or how the 'experts' look down on us. Don't expect anything to change for a long, long time if ever unless the club somehow generates increased worldwide viewing figures. 

[coolhandfox]

48 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

"You don't get given respect you have to earn it". 

 

How many top 6's or trophies do we need to win to earn respect? It seems to me that respect is unrelated to how much coverage we get or how the 'experts' look down on us. Don't expect anything to change for a long, long time if ever unless the club somehow generates increased worldwide viewing figures. 

In recent history the PL had the big four Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, who dominated the PL and Cups, then came along Man City and to a lesser extent Spurs.

 

Man City cemented there spot by winning 14 major trophies and finishing top 4, 10 season. 

Spurs have finish in the 'top 4' in 5 times and 'top 6' 5 times in the last season  10 season.

 

We need to have sustained success to be spoken about in the same terms as the so called big 6.

 

Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, Man City, Spurs generate more worldwide viewing figures, because they are successful clubs.

 

 

[Les-TA-Jon]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

"You don't get given respect you have to earn it". 

 

How many top 6's or trophies do we need to win to earn respect? It seems to me that respect is unrelated to how much coverage we get or how the 'experts' look down on us. Don't expect anything to change for a long, long time if ever unless the club somehow generates increased worldwide viewing figures. 

We've 'only' got 1 trophy and 2 top 6 finishes. Compared to all the other big clubs we've still got a long way to go. 

 

Think we'd need to finish top 6 four or five years in a row to be considered a legitimate gatecrasher. 

[Spudulike]

5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

In recent history the PL had the big four Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, who dominated the PL and Cups, then came along Man City and to a lesser extent Spurs.

 

Man City cemented there spot by winning 14 major trophies and finishing top 4, 10 season. 

Spurs have finish in the 'top 4' in 5 times and 'top 6' 5 times in the last season  10 season.

 

We need to have sustained success to be spoken about in the same terms as the so called big 6.

 

Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, Man City, Spurs generate more worldwide viewing figures, because they are successful clubs.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

We've 'only' got 1 trophy and 2 top 6 finishes. Compared to all the other big clubs we've still got a long way to go. 

 

Think we'd need to finish top 6 four or five years in a row to be considered a legitimate gatecrasher. 

I think the likes of Sky would drop Manc if their investment and trophies dried up (probably same for Chelsea). However, ManU and Liverpool (even Arsenal) would still be the most prominently featured clubs no matter what. The point is that some clubs will always attract more viewers and revenue and therefore it's irrelevant how much 'respect' a club has with these broadcasters. Most clubs, including us, don't stand a chance.