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The "do they mean us?" thread pt 2

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48 minutes ago, Jordan said:

Aside from the completely valid point about the difficulty getting tickets, that's a bit of an odd article. Yes, it was surreal to suddenly (and temporarily as it turned out) be the most talked-about team (across all sports, not just football) in the world. But the wider points about matchday atmosphere and comparison with our past acheivements seem to imply that the problem lies with our club losing an identity, which I disagree with entirely.

 

It's changed to reflect the modern game, and some older fans don't like that. But we very much do have an identity of our own, so many shared memories and experiences in recent years stretching back to our League 1 season and, to be frank, a very good ownership structure reflected in our rapport with Top and the late Vichai which I would say is possibly unrivalled, certainly in the top flight. Sure, the support could be more vociferous, and the ticketing malaise is starting to affect the intensity of a fair few away days, but I betray anyone here who was in that end at Sheffield United to tell me that this club no longer has an "identity" or the ability to create "scenes".

 

It's modern football, and he's not going to escape it by deciding to drop down the divisions. Case in point, he claims he has taken to Wycombe Wanderers and finds it a refreshing antithesis to "modern football", but glosses over the very modern one-man media circus surrounding Ade Akinfenwa. #BeastMode, innit. :giggle:

 

The only difference is that Wycombe aren't threatening to do anything more outrageous than get promoted to the Championship at present, so I guess that on balance they meet the requirements of his odd complex which seems to call for mediocrity and anonymity to make football enjoyable. He's a football hipster basically.

 

Maybe he'll change his mind if the media do a Lampard and start referring to the Swans as "Akinfenwa's Wycombe Wanderers". :ph34r:

 

EDIT - And yeah, I guess that might sound a little hypocritical considering I have the crest of another club as my avatar, but that's on the basis of moving across the Atlantic to a new country, rather than driving an hour down the road. And rooting for Forge isn't going to change the fact that Leicester are my hometown club, and my first priority. I'd never entertain the thought of abandoning my club over something as odd as them actually experiencing a fleeting taste of true success. :dunno:

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55 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

Aside from the completely valid point about the difficulty getting tickets, that's a bit of an odd article. Yes, it was surreal to suddenly (and temporarily as it turned out) be the most talked-about team (across all sports, not just football) in the world. But the wider points about matchday atmosphere and comparison with our past acheivements seem to imply that the problem lies with our club losing an identity, which I disagree with entirely.

 

It's changed to reflect the modern game, and some older fans don't like that. But we very much do have an identity of our own, so many shared memories and experiences in recent years stretching back to our League 1 season and, to be frank, a very good ownership structure reflected in our rapport with Top and the late Vichai which I would say is possibly unrivalled, certainly in the top flight. Sure, the support could be more vociferous, and the ticketing malaise is starting to affect the intensity of a fair few away days, but I betray anyone here who was in that end at Sheffield United to tell me that this club no longer has an "identity" or the ability to create "scenes".

 

It's modern football, and he's not going to escape it by deciding to drop down the divisions. Case in point, he claims he has taken to Wycombe Wanderers and finds it a refreshing antithesis to "modern football", but glosses over the very modern one-man media circus surrounding Ade Akinfenwa. #BeastMode, innit. :giggle:

 

The only difference is that Wycombe aren't threatening to do anything more outrageous than get promoted to the Championship at present, so I guess that on balance they meet the requirements of his odd complex which seems to call for mediocrity and anonymity to make football enjoyable. He's a football hipster basically.

 

Maybe he'll change his mind if the media do a Lampard and start referring to the Swans as "Akinfenwa's Wycombe Wanderers". :ph34r:

 

EDIT - And yeah, I guess that might sound a little hypocritical considering I have the crest of another club as my avatar, but that's on the basis of moving across the Atlantic to a new country, rather than driving an hour down the road. And rooting for Forge isn't going to change the fact that Leicester are my hometown club, and my first priority. I'd never entertain the thought of abandoning my club over something as odd as them actually experiencing a fleeting taste of true success. :dunno:

I think the big difference is he can get tickets for Wycombe and see a live game, I would imagine, especially living nearby that would be very attractive.

 

I guess it was a choice between being an armchair fan of his 'natural' club or being a football fan at a game, the rest was all just justification for his obvious guilt.

 

If I was living far away from Leicester I'm pretty sure I'd find a local team to see some live football, I still watch local park football even though I'm a ST holder for many, many years.

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16 minutes ago, davieG said:

I think the big difference is he can get tickets for Wycombe and see a live game, I would imagine, especially living nearby that would be very attractive.

 

I guess it was a choice between being an armchair fan of his 'natural' club or being a football fan at a game, the rest was all just justification for his obvious guilt.

 

If I was living far away from Leicester I'm pretty sure I'd find a local team to see some live football, I still watch local park football even though I'm a ST holder for many, many years.

Of course! Nothing wrong with picking up the local club when you move somewhere - well, unless there's some sort of historical rivalry.
 

The baffling thing is what you alluded to in your second sentence - having to choose between teams. The whole article suggests that, now he's decided to watch Wycombe based on his geographical location, he is denouncing his affiliation to Leicester. That's daft. Being a fan of Wycombe isn't threatening his connection to Leicester in any way. Maybe if he was going to watch another direct rival in that part of the world like Watford or one of the North London clubs (yuck) I could understand the conflict in starting to watch a new team, but... Wycombe? Seriously? Hell, I'd gladly attend a few Bondage Swan games if I found myself in that part of the world, but I highly doubt the elusive atmosphere of days passed which he seems to be clamouring for is really on show at Adams Park. 

 

His problem is with the trappings of modern football, that's fair enough, but abandoning your old club based on some flawed, outdated belief that you can't support anyone else is daft. And his complaints about the title win being the last straw are frankly baffling - that beautiful summer and the neutral response reminded us all that the club actually means far more to the city than what goes on within the four stands of the KP. 240,000 people joined in with the title parade - that's 2/3 of the entire city population. If that's not fostering an identity, I don't know what is. Sure, I'm sure a few of us would rather be bouncing up and down on a rain-soaked terrace in Peterborough trying to ignore the fact that we're 2-0 down by singing classics, but I just don't get how anybody could come away from that title win with anything other than an intense pride in our achievements and a big smile on their face knowing our plucky little club have carved themselves a place in football folklore.

 

In other words, he sounds like a right miserable sod.

 

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4 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

Of course! Nothing wrong with picking up the local club when you move somewhere - well, unless there's some sort of historical rivalry.
 

The baffling thing is what you alluded to in your second sentence - having to choose between teams. The whole article suggests that, now he's decided to watch Wycombe based on his geographical location, he is denouncing his affiliation to Leicester. That's daft. Being a fan of Wycombe isn't threatening his connection to Leicester in any way. Maybe if he was going to watch another direct rival in that part of the world like Watford or one of the North London clubs (yuck) I could understand the conflict in starting to watch a new team, but... Wycombe? Seriously? Hell, I'd gladly attend a few Bondage Swan games if I found myself in that part of the world, but I highly doubt the elusive atmosphere of days passed which he seems to be clamouring for is really on show at Adams Park. 

 

His problem is with the trappings of modern football, that's fair enough, but abandoning your old club based on some flawed, outdated belief that you can't support anyone else is daft. And his complaints about the title win being the last straw are frankly baffling - that beautiful summer and the neutral response reminded us all that the club actually means far more to the city than what goes on within the four stands of the KP. 240,000 people joined in with the title parade - that's 2/3 of the entire city population. If that's not fostering an identity, I don't know what is. Sure, I'm sure a few of us would rather be bouncing up and down on a rain-soaked terrace in Peterborough trying to ignore the fact that we're 2-0 down by singing classics, but I just don't get how anybody could come away from that title win with anything other than an intense pride in our achievements and a big smile on their face knowing our plucky little club have carved themselves a place in football folklore.

 

In other words, he sounds like a right miserable sod.

 

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If he can't get tickets to see Leicester and doesn't live here and regularly watches another team where he gets to know the players, the history and fellow fans I can imagine his interest waning especially if it used to be all encompassing and now it's unobtainable except from a distance.

 

I say this as someone who can emphasise with it having been born in Chelsea and moving to Leicester when I was 7. Not being able to watch Chelsea, not even on the TV back then and regularly watching Leicester. It all came to a head when we played Chelsea in a League Cup Final and I finally had to choose, I chose Leicester and have been a staunch and regular supporter ever since and feel no attachment to Chelsea what so ever, apart from when the played Spurs in our Championship wining season.

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I could understand the title win reducing the enthusiasm somewhat- we've reached a peak, and in the most unexpected circumstances- but he seems quite resentful of the success and annoyed that we aren't the club of 10 years ago.

 

Plenty of reasons to knock the current set-up with the clappers and the marketing crap but it just smacks of a nostalgia trip and that strange concept of preferring it when we were worse.

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Just now, Corky said:

I could understand the title win reducing the enthusiasm somewhat- we've reached a peak, and in the most unexpected circumstances- but he seems quite resentful of the success and annoyed that we aren't the club of 10 years ago.

 

Plenty of reasons to knock the current set-up with the clappers and the marketing crap but it just smacks of a nostalgia trip and that strange concept of preferring it when we were worse.

I agree but the thing is he could get tickets then and watch us play now he can’t 

 

Tells me the club have been too slow to build on that success with an expanded stadium I’d imagine there’s a fair few attenders now who weren’t interested in us before and the result is past regulars are being denied the chance to support the team as they’ve done in the past by going to games.

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So in other words, it boils down to "extend the East Stand and I'll come back". But also "even if I can get a ticket, I'm going to stand there and grumble about how Youri Tielemans can't hold a candle to Paul Fitzpatrick." :fishing:

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6 minutes ago, davieG said:

I agree but the thing is he could get tickets then and watch us play now he can’t 

 

Tells me the club have been too slow to build on that success with an expanded stadium I’d imagine there’s a fair few attenders now who weren’t interested in us before and the result is past regulars are being denied the chance to support the team as they’ve done in the past by going to games.

The ground became a difficult place to buy one-off tickets in 2014 after promotion, the title win didn't suddenly produce a new raft of match-going fans. Do tickets even go to general sale now? Even if we added 5/6k to the capcity, they'd surely be taken up by more season tickets and memberships.

 

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2 hours ago, davieG said:

I think the big difference is he can get tickets for Wycombe and see a live game, I would imagine, especially living nearby that would be very attractive.

 

I guess it was a choice between being an armchair fan of his 'natural' club or being a football fan at a game, the rest was all just justification for his obvious guilt.

 

If I was living far away from Leicester I'm pretty sure I'd find a local team to see some live football, I still watch local park football even though I'm a ST holder for many, many years.

Not read the article but sounds like it's a bit similar to my situation. Leicester supporter for 40 years and had a season ticket for about 10 of those years when I lived in Leicester.

However I've lived in Bristol 20 years now and setting aside the difficulty in getting tickets for our games (although I still get to I'd say 3-6 a season away from home) I can't afford to give up the time to travel to games anymore but still need the social fix of games on a Saturday, hence why I have a season ticket at Ashton Gate with a group of friends (which incidentally is a 10 minute walk from my house). 

In addition if my son gets into football then I want him to support his local team, and unfortunately that is Bristol City, but the locality will provide him with the opportunity to actually go to games and socialise with his mates. 

Do I feel invested in how Bristol City get on. Not really, but it gets me out of the house, provides me with the opportunity to have a few beers and still watch some, at times, decent football. 

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30 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Insufferable hipster shit. 

 

Literally the definition of hipster, Leicester win something so goes to find a shittier team. What a nob. 

But..But.but!!.according to many in this forum,

 

I thought we were the shittiest team..thats Why we Stay true blue..!!!  Never mind the weather, as long as we are together..

Great moments,nightmares,Brilliance,or load of twaddle,crap & worse games EVER, leave the foxes badge...NEVER!!!!!

We are "The Leicester."....even The motorway chefs couldnt deny us..!!!

 But its our team...we can moan,cry,laugh,even be daft...Forever blue,whens the next bus.....Midland-red.!!

 

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1 hour ago, DerbyshireFox said:

Absolute belter from Garth Crooks! Pundits really do talk some absolute trash sometimes!! I have no hard feelings towards Maguire, bit of banter on the weekend is nothing, but “agreeing to be sold to Manchester United...” do me a favour :crylaugh:

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Garth Crooks's team of the weekend? Do me a favour! Does he watch every minute of every game? Of course not. He probably watches MotD and a couple of live games like the rest of us and then just regurgitates what the pundits have picked up on. Easiest job in journalism. Can't believe anyone reads it.

 

On that subject, does anyone else recall the moment when Crooks's career as a 'journalist' should have come to an end? Well, it was 25 years ago, at the 1994 World Cup, and he happened to be BBC's man on the spot in - if I recall correctly - Dallas when the massive news broke of Maradona having tested positive for drugs. Crooks was live to camera and completely froze, talking gibberish nonsense on repeat that told the viewer the square root of sweet fa. It was hilarious yet unwatchable at the same time.

 

My opinion of Crooks has always been coloured by that moment.

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1 hour ago, DerbyshireFox said:

Absolute belter from Garth Crooks! Pundits really do talk some absolute trash sometimes!! I have no hard feelings towards Maguire, bit of banter on the weekend is nothing, but “agreeing to be sold to Manchester United...” do me a favour :crylaugh:

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Because he unsportingly kicked the ball out of play when a United player was feigning injury, Garth. 

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49 minutes ago, reginald said:

Walking around Rio, near Seleron steps. Not sure if this is known or where to put it but thought I would. 

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If you’re still there, check out Books Hostel in Lapa. It’s owned by a guy called Felipe and he’s a big Leicester fan...he’s mental though and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t own a shirt

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5 hours ago, DerbyshireFox said:

Absolute belter from Garth Crooks! Pundits really do talk some absolute trash sometimes!! I have no hard feelings towards Maguire, bit of banter on the weekend is nothing, but “agreeing to be sold to Manchester United...” do me a favour :crylaugh:

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Those stats lack the context as Soyuncu’s are very comparable within Saturday’s game

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9 hours ago, Jordan said:

I’d say I’m one of AMFers and it reads inaccurate. There’s plenty (IMO and everyone is bored with my constant arguments) to level criticism towards us. 

 

I don’t agree with the membership to gain tickets but there’s ample opportunity now to get a ticket if you show a bit of application and persistence. Honestly reads to be as though it’s easier for him to pop down Wycombe which (ain’t no bad thing). Just recognise that yourself rather than moaning about what’s occurred to the club over the last few years and making things up like ‘fans fixtures’ / ‘disguised emails’

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9 hours ago, Sampson said:

Bejng at a club for 2 seasons in which he had 1 good season and 1 mediocre season (and in both seasons we were pretty defensively poor overall and it was our defence that held us back) = wonderful service?!

 

Don't get me wrong, I like Maguire,  but they're making it sound like a club legend was coming home, rather than just a player who was pretty good for a club for a couple of seasons and who we mostly looked better without last season and our record has so far been much better without this season.

 

Wes Morgan and Robert Huth gave Leicester "wonderful service" and are club legends. Harry Maguire did not and is not, he just played pretty well for us for a season or two.

Bang on the money, for mid-prem clubs like ours - or indeed any club outside of the big 4/5/6 - a lot of people in the media have this patronising idea that being one of the more talented, high profile players in the team for a couple of seasons is enough to become a legend for the club regardless of on-pitch achievements. 

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12 hours ago, adam95581 said:

If you’re still there, check out Books Hostel in Lapa. It’s owned by a guy called Felipe and he’s a big Leicester fan...he’s mental though and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t own a shirt

You want him to check out a half naked mental Brazilian called Felipe in a hostel in Rio??

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12 hours ago, adam95581 said:

If you’re still there, check out Books Hostel in Lapa. It’s owned by a guy called Felipe and he’s a big Leicester fan...he’s mental though and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t own a shirt

Here for another week, staying round the corner in Santa Teresa so I’ll be looking for somewhere to watch the game on Saturday and 08:30 in the morning! 

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15 hours ago, Brizzle Fox said:

Not read the article but sounds like it's a bit similar to my situation. Leicester supporter for 40 years and had a season ticket for about 10 of those years when I lived in Leicester.

However I've lived in Bristol 20 years now and setting aside the difficulty in getting tickets for our games (although I still get to I'd say 3-6 a season away from home) I can't afford to give up the time to travel to games anymore but still need the social fix of games on a Saturday, hence why I have a season ticket at Ashton Gate with a group of friends (which incidentally is a 10 minute walk from my house). 

In addition if my son gets into football then I want him to support his local team, and unfortunately that is Bristol City, but the locality will provide him with the opportunity to actually go to games and socialise with his mates. 

Do I feel invested in how Bristol City get on. Not really, but it gets me out of the house, provides me with the opportunity to have a few beers and still watch some, at times, decent football. 

It's admirable what you're doing but I honestly couldn't muster up the motivation to go, maybe could to a much lower team where there's a great community spirit but I've tried over the years when I've lived out of Leics to follow a lower league team to get my Saturday fix but the novelty soon wore off, would much rather just get blathered in the boozer and watch the scores come in.

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