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I'm disappointed she didn't mentioned Soyuncu, the Turkish  Lord.

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30 minutes ago, Koke said:

I'm disappointed she didn't mentioned Soyuncu, the Turkish  Lord.

She's learning-- she'll get there! :P

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On 09/08/2019 at 15:59, ARM1968 said:

Going to win it again then. Bloody hell. Thanks Lawro you scouse wizard you. 

he's a melty faced, clueless, Scouse loving,  70s throwback twa*.

apart from that he's ok.

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Lawro doesn't wind me up as much as others. 

 

However, it's scandalous he's still being paid to comment on football. He's so thoroughly out of touch it's like asking Roy Chubby Brown his take on millennial comedy.

 

He wants retiring to a nursing home with Alan Hansen, Graham Souness and Phil Thompson where they can watch replays of the European Cup finals and sigh at the reds of the sunset. 

 

'But those European nights in the Kop eh lads?' 

 

'Bill Shankley eh?' 

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27 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Lawro doesn't wind me up as much as others. 

 

However, it's scandalous he's still being paid to comment on football. He's so thoroughly out of touch it's like asking Roy Chubby Brown his take on millennial comedy.

 

He wants retiring to a nursing home with Alan Hansen, Graham Souness and Phil Thompson where they can watch replays of the European Cup finals and sigh at the reds of the sunset. 

 

'But those European nights in the Kop eh lads?' 

 

'Bill Shankley eh?' 

 

Hansen used to be so bloody good, in his last few seasons he just became increasingly beige, boring and almost resentful for some reason.

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28 minutes ago, Langston said:

 

Hansen used to be so bloody good, in his last few seasons he just became increasingly beige, boring and almost resentful for some reason.

His rampant desire for Liverpool to win something just got dulled. 

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On 15 August 2019 at 17:25, MC Prussian said:

She's cute and has got a good sense of humour and a great laugh. Don't see that very often with women over here, too distant and self-absorbed mostly.

Seeing that she's originally a baseball pundit, we'd have to skip that one topic already entirely, though. lol

More chance of landing a spaceship on the Sun, then getting a sensible football comment from her. She obviously knows nothing about the game, but clearly that's not why she's on the box. Good luck to her on making a few quid, but just shows what TV show producers think about the average football fan - Bunch of wankets easily satisfied. 

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5 hours ago, BoyJones said:

More chance of landing a spaceship on the Sun, then getting a sensible football comment from her. She obviously knows nothing about the game, but clearly that's not why she's on the box. Good luck to her on making a few quid, but just shows what TV show producers think about the average football fan - Bunch of wankets easily satisfied. 

I...think it's just a short clip meant as a laugh for a non-football obsessed audience? You didn't have to watch it, you know! lol

 

I liked the quick mention of how hot Kasper Schmichael is. That is one fine viking of a man

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14 hours ago, worthosoriginals said:

he's a melty faced, clueless, Scouse loving,  70s throwback twa*.

apart from that he's ok.

That’s enough of his good points. 

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ESPN giving us our due.  (frankly not the most perceptive piece; but worth sharing its optimistic conclusion.)

 

Premier League's best of the rest

 

Three games into the 2019-20 Premier League season and the top of the table already looks ominously familiar, with Liverpool and Manchester City having claimed the top two spots. Meanwhile, the chasing pack have all stumbled during the opening three weeks and done little to suggest that they can challenge European champions Liverpool or back-to-back Premier League winners City for the title.

So are the best of the rest simply fighting to finish third and fourth? Or is the battle now more about seeing off the challenge of ambitious clubs such as Wolves and Leicester to keep hold of a place in the top six? ESPN FC has assessed the strengths and weaknesses of the teams most likely to challenge for the top six, and it is not just about Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester United.

 

ARSENAL

Strengths: With two wins out of three so far, Unai Emery's team have made a sound start to the season but Saturday's 3-1 defeat at Liverpool proved to be something of a reality check. However, Arsenal have a wealth of attacking options, increased by the summer purchase of Nicolas Pepe, and they have the ability to outscore less well-resourced teams. Emery is also showing signs of good progress in the second year of his reign in charge.

Weaknesses: The defeat at Anfield exposed some familiar Arsenal frailties in defence, ones that have seemingly not been helped by the acquisition of David Luiz from Chelsea. Emery's tactical plan was also picked apart by Jurgen Klopp, so the biggest question mark over Emery and Arsenal is whether they can find a way to beat the top teams away from home. Or at least find a way not to lose.

 

MANCHESTER UNITED

Strengths: Man United have bolstered their defence with the summer signings of Harry Maguire and Aaron Wan-Bissaka, and the addition of winger Daniel James has added blistering pace and given Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's team greater threat on the counterattack. The much-maligned Paul Pogba -- penalty miss aside -- has started the campaign well.

Man United were stunned by Crystal Palace on Saturday and will need other players beyond Harry Maguire, Marcus Rashford and Paul Pogba to step up and contribute.

Weaknesses: There is a worrying over-reliance on Pogba, Maguire and Marcus Rashford. How will United cope if any of them are injured or suspended for a period of time? Solskjaer's squad lacks quality and experience, and in terms of creativity, there is no potential game-changer in the final third. David de Gea's ongoing battle for form in goal is another concern that has now been an issue for more than six months.

 

TOTTENHAM

Strengths: Stability and consistency under Mauricio Pochettino is Tottenham's biggest asset. They also have the goal threat of Harry Kane, with Heung-min Son and Lucas Moura also capable of weighing in with double figures. Summer signing Tanguy Ndombele has added quality in midfield, and although they can blow hot and cold, Spurs have proved over the years under Pochettino that they can quickly bounce back from setbacks.

Weaknesses: The uncertainty surrounding Christian Eriksen's future is already becoming a distraction, with the Dane being omitted from the starting lineup twice already this term. The player looks out of sorts, and Spurs miss his creativity. Defensively, there are also concerns in both full-back positions and Hugo Lloris has been unconvincing in goal for the majority of 2019. Spurs still need more depth in their squad, despite the summer spending spree.

 

CHELSEA

Strengths: The appointment of Frank Lampard as manager has brought a feelgood factor to Stamford Bridge, which has enabled the former Chelsea midfielder to be bold enough in handing chances to young stars like Mason Mount and Tammy Abraham. There is a freedom to Chelsea's play this season, but they also have the experience and quality of N'Golo Kante in midfield to hold it all together. Chelsea are in transition, but the mood is upbeat.

Weaknesses: Every strength is a potential weakness at Chelsea. Can the youngsters be relied upon to perform all season? How long will Lampard's honeymoon period last? And when Kante doesn't play, Chelsea have a hole in midfield that they simply cannot fill. The summer exits of Gary Cahill and David Luiz have left Chelsea light on experience at centre-back and the two-window transfer embargo means they will be unable to sign a proven goal scorer until next summer.

 

LEICESTER CITY

Strengths: Brendan Rodgers inherited a vibrant young team when he succeeded Claude Puel as manager late last season, and the likes of James Maddison, Harvey Barnes, Hamza Choudhury and Ben Chilwell are all developing into top-class players at the King Power Stadium. Jamie Vardy continues to score goals at the highest level, and Wilfred Ndidi has become an outstanding defensive midfielder. No European commitments will also play in Leicester's favour.

Weaknesses: Leicester have yet to replace Harry Maguire at centre-back after his world-record £80m transfer to Manchester United and Rodgers' commitment to attacking football may yet expose the frailties in Leicester's defence without their most commanding defender. If Vardy is injured, Leicester could also struggle for goals.

 

WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS

Strengths: Wolves have yet to win this season, but they are also undefeated and Nuno Espirito Santo's team have twice come from behind to draw at home, against United and Burnley, which points to the belief and quality within the Molineux squad. Raul Jimenez has emerged as one of the Premier League's most reliable strikers, while goalkeeper Rui Patricio and midfielders Ruben Neves and Joao Moutinho are all proven performers at the top level.

Weaknesses: They must find a way to juggle their domestic commitments with a Europa League campaign, and that has been a challenge that even the biggest clubs have struggled to master in recent years. Depth of squad may be the biggest problem once the games mount up and, as last season's FA Cup semifinal defeat against Watford highlighted, questions still remain over Wolves' ability to deliver when the pressure is on.

 

OVERALL VERDICT:

While Wolves and Leicester remain outsiders to break into the top six, the shortcomings of Arsenal, Spurs, United and Chelsea have made it a genuine possibility this season. United's meeting with Leicester at Old Trafford on Sept. 14 is a game between the team most likely to drop out of the top six against the one with the best prospect of breaking into it. And when the season reaches its climax, it could boil down to United and Leicester slugging it out for sixth while City and Liverpool pull even further away from the rest at the top.

 

 

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/3929074/premier-leagues-best-of-the-rest----will-man-united-struggle-again-to-finish-in-top-four

 

 

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On 17/08/2019 at 00:39, Langston said:

 

Hansen used to be so bloody good, in his last few seasons he just became increasingly beige, boring and almost resentful for some reason.

He lost the will to live from the combined might of Gerrard's slip and us winning the league in the PL era before Liverpool.:fishing:

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There was an actual Do they mean us? on Football365 the other day. A fan wrote into the mailbox saying how out of order Leicester fans were chanting "You Fat Bastard" towards Luke Shaw at Molineux last Monday.

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1 hour ago, Corky said:

There was an actual Do they mean us? on Football365 the other day. A fan wrote into the mailbox saying how out of order Leicester fans were chanting "You Fat Bastard" towards Luke Shaw at Molineux last Monday.

Damn... knew I should have turned off Alexa before shouting that at the TV. This is surely proof that the tech companies are spying on us all 😂

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1 hour ago, Corky said:

There was an actual Do they mean us? on Football365 the other day. A fan wrote into the mailbox saying how out of order Leicester fans were chanting "You Fat Bastard" towards Luke Shaw at Molineux last Monday.

Brilliant

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11 hours ago, Corky said:

There was an actual Do they mean us? on Football365 the other day. A fan wrote into the mailbox saying how out of order Leicester fans were chanting "You Fat Bastard" towards Luke Shaw at Molineux last Monday.

Did you post back You thick cvnt?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49538981

 

Leicester City: How far can Brendan Rodgers' team go this season?

By Shamoon Hafez

BBC Sport at King Power Stadium

31 Aug

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Jamie Vardy scored 24 league goals in 2015-16 when Leicester won the Premier League title

When Jamie Vardy raced on to Ben Chilwell's ball over the top and instinctively lobbed in the opener against Bournemouth before trotting off to celebrate, there were shades of the 2015-16 season as the joyous Foxes fans rattled their hand-clappers and chanted his name.

That campaign, of course, saw their miraculous Premier League title triumph under Claudio Ranieri, spearheaded by their mercurial frontman Vardy.

Leicester have finished 12th and ninth twice in their subsequent campaigns, but an excellent start this term under Brendan Rodgers has brought optimism of further glory.

So what evidence is there that Leicester could rise up the table this season and break up the top-six monopoly once more?

Vardy scores twice in win over Bournemouth

What happened in the Premier League?

Re-live text commentary of Leicester v Bournemouth

An impressive start

It is very early days but Leicester already find themselves in third position behind last season's runaway top two, Liverpool and Manchester City.

They fired a blank in their season opener against Wolves and held Chelsea 1-1 - a match they should have won - but have been highly impressive in victories at Sheffield United last weekend and over Bournemouth on Saturday.

Though the Cherries levelled at 1-1, Leicester maintained their composure, sticking to their gameplan and responding with two further goals for a 3-1 victory.

Despite his own team's poor performance, Bournemouth boss Eddie Howe paid high praise to the opponents when I asked him what they could achieve this season.

"Leicester have started very well," he said. "They are a very good team with good players. They have a great manager and will have a great season."

Rodgers' winning mentality

Manager Rodgers came close to Premier League title triumph himself with Liverpool but fell agonisingly short in the 2013-14 season.

He headed to Scotland and achieved unparalleled success with Celtic, but there was always a feeling that he had unfinished business south of the border.

The temptation of making a comeback to England proved too much when Leicester came calling in March and Saturday saw him take charge of his 500th career game as a manager.

The Northern Irishman has implemented a style of play which is easy on the eye, but he also showed the nous to tweak it tactically like he did against Bournemouth with a more direct approach.

So what has changed in the five months since the departure of Frenchman Claude Puel?

"The feel you get from people is that the intensity has increased markedly," club legend Matt Elliott, who scored twice in the 2000 League Cup final win over Tranmere, told me. 

"Brendan is much more specific in training and there is plenty of repetition in game practice and game-related situations.

"On the field, when you see the performances, it is about the slickness, the quickness and movement of the players. He also wants the players to press and win the ball high up the pitch. 

"Neither of those elements were particularly prevalent under Claude Puel. This is a different approach but the players have adapted very well to what he has tried to introduced."

Leicester's eight-point start mimics the beginning of their Premier League title-winning season

They showed their bond at the final whistle when Rodgers brought the players into a huddle on the pitch. Asked what he had told the players, Rodgers replied: "It's private what we do.

"It's a show of togetherness, I asked them to not just play with their talent - it's the third game of the week - but their heart and we definitely showed that."

No European football

Leicester progressed into the Carabao Cup third round by beating Newcastle on penalties during the week, with that competition, the Premier League and FA Cup their only focus for silverware.

It is here where they hold a huge advantage over their possible rivals in the race for the top six.

Assuming Liverpool, City and Tottenham snatch the top three places, Chelsea face a struggle to finish in the top four again under new manager Frank Lampard with a youthful squad who have Champions League football to contend with and without the services of talisman Eden Hazard. 

The Blues showed their fragility on Saturday by surrendering a 2-0 lead against Sheffield United to draw 2-2.

Arsenal's defensive vulnerabilities came to the fore in the 3-1 loss at Liverpool last weekend and they have a testing Europa League group to contend with, but it is Manchester United who may be under the biggest threat.

The Red Devils have failed to win their last three games with a squad that looks light in midfield and up front. To make matters worse, a nightmare Europa League draw will see a 6,000-mile round-trip to face Astana in Kazakhstan, as well as a hostile trip to Partizan Belgrade.

Wolves' season started back on 25 July and they also have Europa League, while Everton, who spent big to try and achieve a European spot, look light of a proven goalscorer.

All this falls in Leicester's favour, as they sit at home and watch on as the rest of the sides battle it out.

Turkey international Caglar Soyuncu was a £19m acquisition from Freiburg in August 2018

Harry who? A quality squad

Leicester's run to their tremendous title victory was based on a settled team, boss Ranieri rarely needing to make changes to his side.

But Rodgers has numerous options available at his disposal, with players coming in possessing the same qualities as those going out.

Many suggested that the decision not to sign a replacement for defender Harry Maguire - sold to Manchester United for £80m - could prove costly but Rodgers has given an opportunity to Caglar Soyuncu who does not look out of place.

The Turkey international joined last summer for £19m from Freiburg but played just six league games, yet he has started all four this term. A tall, elegant centre-back with flowing hair, Soyuncu breeds confidence with his composure on the ball and ability to stay calm under pressure.

England international Chilwell returned to the starting line-up against Bournemouth after three games out, replacing the experienced Christian Fuchs, who played such a vital role in the title-winning season.

England U21 international Hamza Choudhury dropped out despite an excellent start to the season with the destructive Wilfred Ndidi coming in alongside Belgian Youri Tielemans, whose range of passing is a joy to watch.

Dennis Praet, the £18m summer signing from Sampdoria, has not been given a mention yet, a box-to-box midfielder who was linked with a move to Arsenal.

A nice headache for a manager to have.

X-factor players

And to round it off for Leicester, their two key players in the final third of the pitch have been in scintillating form so far.

Playmaker James Maddison deservedly got a call-up to the England squad during the week and is in line to earn his first cap.

Maddison's air of confidence, almost smug arrogance, is of a man who knows everyone is looking at him and not too dissimilar to Cristiano Ronaldo. 

His free-kick against Newcastle in midweek drew parallels, albeit via a deflection, and not to mention the self-belief with his cheeky dinked 'Panenka' spot-kick in the shootout.

Jamie Vardy and James Maddison are fan favourites at the King Power Stadium

The former Norwich player showed his maturity with his defensive work against Bournemouth, winning the ball back eight times, but it was Vardy who stole the show.

The evergreen striker put in an all-action display with two goals and an assist in the 3-1 win, with Rodgers declaring afterwards that he is "a dream to work with".

He added: "For a manager and a coach it's amazing. He showed his quality, not just in his goals but if you look how hard he works, how he sets the team off and his hunger - everyone follows behind him."

Should Leicester continue in this vain, it may be that many of the Premier League teams will be following them behind.

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