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3 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

I think sometimes we are a bit paranoid about perceived "disrespect". 

 

The narrative of FA cup 3rd round day is all about the non league and leauge 1 and 2 sides. Happy to let Cambridge United, Boreham Wood, Kidderminster harries etc have a rare moment in the sun when it comes to national media coverage. 

This is so painfully on the money. 

 

If it were Chelsea holding the cup and the Cambridge win occurred we'd fully expect that to be the focus. Just because its us doesn't make us some gritty underdogs that need fawning over. 

 

Though I will say the ribbons thing is a bit annoying. That's a tradition that's being ignored for the convenience of the advertisers. 

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Hmm agree with a lot of the views re minnows, giant killing etc and why 2 Pl teams us and Watford got short shift so what's the justification for WHU v Leeds getting full match coverage?

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50 minutes ago, davieG said:

Hmm agree with a lot of the views re minnows, giant killing etc and why 2 Pl teams us and Watford got short shift so what's the justification for WHU v Leeds getting full match coverage?

There isn’t for that. TV companies know they’ll get more watching live games with bigger fanbase clubs than they will for say Kiddy v Reading. 
 

For highlights, you are more likely to be watching as a general fan of football. So they prioritise the lower league clubs. 
 

They know the audience better than we do. 

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Very poor although expected form of the 'Beeb'. As the current FA Cup winners, scoring 4 goals in an all EPL game you would have thought they would have kicked off with us. No doubt had it been L'pool/Man City/Manure/Chelski it would have happened without any qualms.

 

Over the years we have forced the media to respect us but it shouldn't have to be like this. 

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The cup coverage has always been like this. I've seen that Ronnie Radford goal more times than I can remember because the Beeb play it ad infinitum on cup games & intros. We do need to get the chip off our shoulders about being ignored by broadcasters or the media. It might have been valid a bit in the 90s with O'Neill's sides becsuse there was a clear tabloid bias back in the day but since the title win and the higher placed finishes we've got a lot more coverage from the TV but on days where Cambridge, Kidderminster etc all put on displays that will go down in history we can't really moan about it. Two understrength prem sides don't come close to that and our FA Cup story was done to death last season. Until about the 5th or 6th round we'll go under the radar whilst they focus on the underdog narratives and that suits me fine.

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About 8 minutes analysis of the game today,  7:15 of it on Arsenal. Only thing mentioned was our inability to defend near post corners, particularly Luke Thomas - Danny Murphy playing a clip of the home match against Arse where the ball flew over Luke's head, had no chance of getting it and compares it to today where Luke moved too far out and jumped under it.

 

Lazy and bare minimum effort. Nothing about their encroachment on the pen either.

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2 minutes ago, Jaspa said:

About 8 minutes analysis of the game today,  7:15 of it on Arsenal. Only thing mentioned was our inability to defend near post corners, particularly Luke Thomas - Danny Murphy playing a clip of the home match against Arse where the ball flew over Luke's head, had no chance of getting it and compares it to today where Luke moved too far out and jumped under it.

 

Lazy and bare minimum effort. Nothing about their encroachment on the pen either.

Didn't even show the Maddison chance in the first half which should have put us level 

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Rodgers is a favourite of the pundit class so everything negative about us is - Rodgers is passive in and doesn’t hold any responsibility for it. “Brendan won’t be happy with the set pieces”, he’s in charge of delegating set piece training.

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1 minute ago, Stadt said:

Rodgers is a favourite of the pundit class so everything negative about us is - Rodgers is passive in and doesn’t hold any responsibility for it. “Brendan won’t be happy with the set pieces”, he’s in charge of delegating set piece training.

Defenders have to want to head the ball. None of our defenders want to head it away. Its mentality.

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4 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Rodgers is a favourite of the pundit class so everything negative about us is - Rodgers is passive in and doesn’t hold any responsibility for it. “Brendan won’t be happy with the set pieces”, he’s in charge of delegating set piece training.

Also when asked by the interviewer about set-pieces, "you've got to do better". It's never "we" when something goes wrong.

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16 hours ago, Stadt said:

Rodgers is a favourite of the pundit class so everything negative about us is - Rodgers is passive in and doesn’t hold any responsibility for it. “Brendan won’t be happy with the set pieces”, he’s in charge of delegating set piece training.

Rodgers is an absolute master of the PR game plus our fanbase have been criticised before under Ranieri and Puel for being entitled and needing to know our place.

 

The end result is that we have to hear how the great coach we have cannot do anything about the regular problems we suffer from and, anyway, we were in League One years ago so what's the issue?

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15 hours ago, Sampson said:

Some of you guys are more paranoid than Putin, jesus. Not everything is an agenda, not everyone is out to get us.

 

The passive thing of “Brendan will be upset with the set pieces” gets said in that way about literally every manager. It’s not evidence of some deep rooted conspiracy against our supporters “needing to know our place”.

Threads like this are unbearable for this exact reason. People are so hyper defensive about their club. The editorial narrative on that game was another Arsenal win, their fifth in a row to move closer to the UCL places. They had a comfortable win against a team in 12th place, sitting fourth on the running order in a show with six matches to get in, and more to talk about in the relegation fight higher up the order than a "maybe UCL team v very mid-table side."

 

If we were sitting fifth or anywhere near close to them that game gets more coverage and analysis for both teams. Cast iron guarantee.

 

What I find most staggering is that it appears, to all football club fans, that the "media" has an agenda against them and hates them. It begs the question... who ARE the media for? Because if Chelsea fans think they're out to get them, and they're pro-Liverpool, but Liverpool fans think they're out to get them, and they're pro-Arsenal, but Arsenal fans think they're out to get them.... You get the picture.

 

Frankly if you want all the LCFC coverage and endless analysis then just flick on LCFC TV. 100% unbiased, agenda free content right there for you.

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Well said @Footballwipe

 

I once heard Rory Smith explain it really well when challenged regards media bias. The media pick the larger story/narrative. Sadly a balanced share of coverage doesn’t get readers or viewers. So the story Arsenal comfortably win to look fairly certain for 4th is far bigger than Leicester’s continued defensive issues. 
 

I think game commentatory is slightly different - you are there to describe, inform and give expert analysis - not an opportunity to pass your own opinion. There’s been a shift there in the last twenty years which has been awful and detrimental to watching sport/football on TV. Watching the World Cup is one of the last events where the commentary  remains enjoyable to watch given the neutrality in 85% of the games 

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22 hours ago, Sampson said:

Some of you guys are more paranoid than Putin, jesus. Not everything is an agenda, not everyone is out to get us.

 

The passive thing of “Brendan will be upset with the set pieces” gets said in that way about literally every manager. It’s not evidence of some deep rooted conspiracy against our supporters “needing to know our place”.

I just think Rodgers could do with a little more scrutiny from pundits and fans will well meaning concerns to be acknowledged.

 

I'm not paranoid at all. I do believe the manager gets away with general underperformance, I hope he puts it right.

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