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Goals - will we have enough?

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The issue we’ve had since returning to the premier league is buying in goals. Vardy and Mahrez we’re already here and contributed the lions share.

 

I’m impressed with the signings we’ve made but breaching the top six will need more that just Vardy contributing. 

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Perez notched 12 playing for a poor team. Expect him to hit the high teens with Vardy 20 + if we maintain the form since Rodgers took over.

 

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4 minutes ago, boots60 said:

Perez notched 12 playing for a poor team. Expect him to hit the high teens with Vardy 20 + if we maintain the form since Rodgers took over.

 

I expect Maddison to hit double figures too... with tielemans providing we have goals 

Posted

Perez and Maddison should add a few on top of Vardy.

 

Wingers is a concern as Brendan knows because Gray and Albrighton don't score enough.

Posted

Vardy: 20

Perez: 15

Maddison: 8-12

Tielemans: 7-11

That's between 45-55 goals among them if we're expecting Vardy to maintain form along with Perez, Maddison, and Tielemans improving over last year.

Posted

We've have one of the best strikers in the league in Jamie vardy, who gets between 15-20 goals a season. Perez got 12 in a poor Newcastle team so I expect him to get 10-15 at least assuming he plays week in week out. The other side is a problem with Gray and Barnes who haven't been prolific enough for us. Both have got into good goal scoring opportunities but not converted and with our midfield (potentially one of the most creative duo in the league), I expect us to get lots of goal scoring opportunities next season.

 

Our full backs are imo the best outside of Liverpool, and if Chilwell can get that final cross more accurate this season this will he another weapon in our arsenal.

 

I'm not concerned that we do not have enough goals in our team. We have a great blend of players with great attacking talents but some individuals need to improve their game and refine it. If we do that we will definitely be up there next season.

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Under Rodgers: 17 goals in 10 games (1.7 goals per game)

 

 Speculating that they repeat that over 38 games: 1.7*38 = 65 goals

 

Last season: Arsenal - 73 goals, Spurs - 67, Man Utd - 65, Chelsea - 63

 

It's rough calculations, but add in Perez, Barnes will score more, Tielemans pulling the strings...we should be in the right area

Posted

I've been expecting a certain Mr Vardy to pick up a long-term injury for the past few seasons now, and mess us up big time. 

He hasn't - yet.

 

Posted

Less of a concern than goals was who was going to be making them possible, IMO. We’ve largely addressed that issue - there’s creativity in our attack now, across the board. 

 

There’s a reason we’re being touted by other teams and neutrals as the most dangerous attack outside of the top six. 

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6 hours ago, Poznan34 said:

Under Rodgers: 17 goals in 10 games (1.7 goals per game)

 

 Speculating that they repeat that over 38 games: 1.7*38 = 65 goals

 

Last season: Arsenal - 73 goals, Spurs - 67, Man Utd - 65, Chelsea - 63

 

It's rough calculations, but add in Perez, Barnes will score more, Tielemans pulling the strings...we should be in the right area

That's a great post. Shows you the improvement in our team under BR. I guess one caveat is we drew a blank against Chelsea and Man City under Rodgers, which whilst not disastrous might be an issue. In order to close the gap to the top 6 you need to get points against them. Mind you we got 4 points from Chelsea, 3 from Arsenal, 3 from Man City and 1 from Liverpool last time round which is pretty good going. How did we lose both games to Man U though!? Still makes me mad!

 

Rodgers was brilliant at Liverpool really cranking up the number of goals scored. I already think with our signings that the Maddison / Tielemans combination guarantees more creativity as we have evidence for already and Perez I think might well prove to be a really astute signing. He is a clinical player and I could see him being a bit like Ulloa in 15/16 where he comes up with important goals even if he's not always a starter. So I think 60 goals is a realistic target this season, though with no Huddersfield it will dent everyone's goals for column as I don't think any of the promoted sides will be that bad.

 

But I think the thread is quite a good one as it's an important question. If the season started tomorrow I'd be happy with what we've got and think we'd have a decent chance of top 6/7. If we signed a player who could get us 10 goals and 10 assists from wide right, then I think we'd get top 6. If we had TWO wide players who got 10 goals and assists each from left and right hand side, that could honestly get 4th spot. We won't sign two but who knows Harvey Barnes might have a breakthrough season. Personally though I reckon we will see 5/5 from Barnes which would still be pretty good for his age but shows you the gulf between decent and great. When you look at the Sane / Sterling / Son / Mane / Salah's of this world you see what top level really looks like. Of course we had such a player, but he left!

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think anyone expecting us to have 4 or 5 players posting double figures is absolutely bonkers. pretty sure even liverpool and man city wouldn’t get that many goals spread across a team. 

 

as long as vardy is firing again then we have enough to chip in to help him, for me. that was the issue last year, vardy was not being utilised and didn’t play very well (or at all) under puel. once he started scoring under rodgers it was fine, and it will be again next year. 

Posted

Kasper will finally break his duck and score a set piece header when we're behind in the 5th minute of injury time

Posted

I think people are being a bit optimistic giving vardy 20-25 and Perez 15-20! 

 

Vardy 15 and Perez 10 is a more conservative and realistic forecast and that isn't to say we won't be successful, especially if other players contribute too...

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14 hours ago, DrezZone said:

Vardy: 20

Perez: 15

Maddison: 8-12

Tielemans: 7-11

That's between 45-55 goals among them if we're expecting Vardy to maintain form along with Perez, Maddison, and Tielemans improving over last year.

Doubt Perez will get 15. He only got 12 when they started playing him as a striker. As a winger he's been getting about 8.

Posted
8 hours ago, BoyJones said:

Some people love posting a negative thread. 

I wouldn’t say negative. The club and Brendan have recognised the need for additional goals if reports of a 30-50 million winger are to be believed. 

 

My point is that goals is the one area our recruitment has struggled since returning. Of Ulloa, Okazaki, Musa, Slimani and Ihanacho only Ulloa can be seen as bringing any form of goal theat. That’s an awful lot of money for very little return in terms of goals. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Foxxed said:

Doubt Perez will get 15. He only got 12 when they started playing him as a striker. As a winger he's been getting about 8.

I think Vardy will be 20+

 

Perez will get around 10-12 even from the wing/fwd position.

 

Madders will be around 7/8

 

but I think Youri will be around 10 for the season.

 

Barnes I reckon 7/8

 

Youri and Madders though to be on 10 assists a piece by the season end.

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8 hours ago, Collymore said:

I think people are being a bit optimistic giving vardy 20-25 and Perez 15-20! 

 

Vardy 15 and Perez 10 is a more conservative and realistic forecast and that isn't to say we won't be successful, especially if other players contribute too...

To be fair I think 20-25 is realistic for Vardy considering his form under Brendan and two previous seasons where he's scored 20 goals. Perez could get 15, but 10 is probably more realistic I agree.

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