Nigel Pearson appointed Watford manager

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

11 minutes ago, Stadt said:

People that don't like him:

Weird blokes that think they know football and judge a manager on what they're like in the media

Joke footballers with shit attitudes like Beckford and Bullard

Dickheads

 

People that like him:

Almost everybody that's ever worked with him

Knowledgeable football fans

Non-dickheads

 

Could probably have bracketed them weird football twitter goblins in the first bunch in all before he started doing well at Watford.

[Stadt]

Just now, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Could probably have bracketed them weird football twitter goblins in the first bunch in all before he started doing well at Watford.

Oh yeah, "ostrich man bad". The types that reply to sky sports tweets are almost without fail brain donors

[oxford blue]

Schmeical recognises the importance of NP in City's recent success:

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/18403020.leicester-citys-kasper-schmeichel-talks-depth-working-watford-head-coach-nigel-pearson/

 

Interview on Peter Crouch podcast - if anyone knows the date, it would be interesting to hear more.

[StanSP]

11 minutes ago, oxford blue said:

Schmeical recognises the importance of NP in City's recent success:

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/18403020.leicester-citys-kasper-schmeichel-talks-depth-working-watford-head-coach-nigel-pearson/

 

Interview on Peter Crouch podcast - if anyone knows the date, it would be interesting to hear more.

You can hear it here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08bblch

 

[Fox92]

58 minutes ago, oxford blue said:

Schmeical recognises the importance of NP in City's recent success:

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/18403020.leicester-citys-kasper-schmeichel-talks-depth-working-watford-head-coach-nigel-pearson/

 

Interview on Peter Crouch podcast - if anyone knows the date, it would be interesting to hear more.

It was his latest podcast, released on Thursday.

 

I wouldn't call it "recent success" either, I'd call it "the success". We wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for Pearson, as a club and as a team.

Edited 26 April 2020 by Fox92

[Finnaldo]

On 17/04/2020 at 20:46, Stadt said:

People that don't like him:

Weird blokes that think they know football and judge a manager on what they're like in the media

Joke footballers with shit attitudes like Beckford and Bullard

Dickheads

 

People that like him:

Almost everybody that's ever worked with him

Knowledgeable football fans

Non-dickheads

To argue that Pearson isn’t a good manager is to ignore literally every in depth football article or report ever done on the man, by some of the top football journalists in the country, and to bat off every account given by some of the best and most loyal footballers to come through the club (at least in most cases since O’Neil) in favour of footballers who had attitudes that set them at League One  as a ceiling, Championship at a push. 
 

To get to the opinion he’s not one of our best ever managers is basically reading no football-based media and going off a couple social media posts and Sun excerpts. I’m usually of the opinion that football is highly subjective at the best of times but all of the evidence objectively says that anyone who says he’s sh!t is a mind-numbed, Sportsbible-following, prawn sandwich-eating fvcking moron.

Edited 1 May 2020 by Finnaldo

[davieG]

After all this time I'm still confused by why so much fuss was made of his ostrich comment. It's been a well known and well used phrase for as long as I can remember and the subject of many a cartoon.

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, davieG said:

After all this time I'm still confused by why so much fuss was made of his ostrich comment. It's been a well known and well used phrase for as long as I can remember and the subject of many a cartoon.

 

The press were just gunning for him because he didn't like them. I really hate the football tabloid press to be honest, they're up there with agents as the biggest cancer in the game. 

 

Pearson sees them for what they are and treats them with the contempt they're due and they respond in kind by proving his point and turning in to a lynch mob. 

 

The biggest irony in football over the last few years is when they labelled him a bully, it was hilarious. There's a room full of journalists poking and prodding, hidden behind THEIR cameras whilst all ganging up on this one guy trying to make him snap for entertainment and THEY called HIM a bully. It was amazing. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

24 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

The press were just gunning for him because he didn't like them. I really hate the football tabloid press to be honest, they're up there with agents as the biggest cancer in the game. 

 

Pearson sees them for what they are and treats them with the contempt they're due and they respond in kind by proving his point and turning in to a lynch mob. 

 

The biggest irony in football over the last few years is when they labelled him a bully, it was hilarious. There's a room full of journalists poking and prodding, hidden behind THEIR cameras whilst all ganging up on this one guy trying to make him snap for entertainment and THEY called HIM a bully. It was amazing. 

Yet people like Redknapp are written about as great honest hardworking blokes, all while having money laundered in dodgy off shore accounts - allegedly

 

**** the press & the media.

Edited 1 May 2020 by davieG
allegedly added for forum safety.

[Finnaldo]

50 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

The press were just gunning for him because he didn't like them. I really hate the football tabloid press to be honest, they're up there with agents as the biggest cancer in the game. 

 

Pearson sees them for what they are and treats them with the contempt they're due and they respond in kind by proving his point and turning in to a lynch mob. 

 

The biggest irony in football over the last few years is when they labelled him a bully, it was hilarious. There's a room full of journalists poking and prodding, hidden behind THEIR cameras whilst all ganging up on this one guy trying to make him snap for entertainment and THEY called HIM a bully. It was amazing. 

One of the best parts of the Pearson years, even it was conceived partially by accident, was the siege mentality. 
 

I hated the media, I hated other teams, I hated James McArthur, I hated the booers behind the dugout and I hated  every ref cos Nige was out there locking them in chokeholds, calling them shite and telling them to fvck off and die. 
 

By the latter stages of the 14/15 season, Pearson could have called my nan a tw@t and I would have firebombed her house on his behalf. 
 

The man was intent of burning English football down and leaving nothing but Leicester City on top. And that corner of West Brom fans for Vardy to endlessly taunt. 

Edited 1 May 2020 by Finnaldo

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

The press were just gunning for him because he didn't like them. I really hate the football tabloid press to be honest, they're up there with agents as the biggest cancer in the game. 

Pearson sees them for what they are and treats them with the contempt they're due and they respond in kind by proving his point and turning in to a lynch mob. 

The biggest irony in football over the last few years is when they labelled him a bully, it was hilarious. There's a room full of journalists poking and prodding, hidden behind THEIR cameras whilst all ganging up on this one guy trying to make him snap for entertainment and THEY called HIM a bully. It was amazing. 

The 'Midlands press' were not gunning for him, they/we generally got on pretty well. Some of the 'London crew' had different views though.

He didn't treat all journalists with disrespect.

He didn't have a problem with us asking a fair question. What he didn't like was those with an agenda.

After the Ostrich rant - he'd had a drink, he was silly and went too far IMHO - and at the next day's presser he started with an apology to Ian Baker which he accepted immediately.

He was then questioned (quite rightly) about it before subjects moved on.

Then Pat Murphy, thinking he was the self appointed voice of Midlands reporters, went on and on and on, trolling for a bite.

Pearson played a glorious innings, batting off each increasingly desperate, baiting question which frustrated Murphy even further.

This 12 seconds is a great snapshot...

 

Afterwards, Rob Dorsett from Sky and me and others (who were cringing throughout) questioned Pat's bizarre performance.

"I'm not here to lob half volleys and soft soap people," said Pat.

The amount of people - even plenty of his BBC colleagues - said privately how embarrassed they were by him.

Word got around from some of the senior hacks that in his younger days he used to be gentle with Cloughie to keep him onside.

Rob wrote a piece for Sky, having a pop at Pat's performance. An angry Pat approached him in the Villa press room and things got pretty heated.

Pat occasionally baits Sky and talkSPORT on his Twitter because he's a Beeb man and hates Murdoch.

He's not widely loved on the circuit because of how he operates.

He's considered an analogue dinosaur in a digital world.

 

Back to the original point, Pearson got on much better with journalists/media than people often think.

Yeah he could be difficult at times and some had their knives out but generally the mood was decent between both.

 

Mentioned this before but I was at Watford-Everton earlier this season. I hadn't seen Pearson for years.

Watford gave away a two goal lead and lost to a last minute goal so he must've been really down. 

He came out to do his TV commitments, I was in the radio booths.

He spotted me and came over with a smile and a handshake and asked how I was when he should really have gone straight to the TV interviews.

He's a good guy.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Thank you for the edit davieG, I knew I was forgetting something

[Corky]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

After all this time I'm still confused by why so much fuss was made of his ostrich comment. It's been a well known and well used phrase for as long as I can remember and the subject of many a cartoon.

I'm guilty of criticising managers myself about their conduct but it should be taken into account that these interviews are done in the aftermath of an emotional game, an important game and emotions are flying. How many of us on here have snapped at a pivotal moment in a game but 24 hours later have calmed down and reasoned with it? 

 

As proved, Pearson apologised within a day, acknowledged his behaviour was wrong and the journalist accepted it. But others, as Geoff has said, wanted to carry it on. If Pearson had his time again, I doubt he'd do it that way.

 

All this stuff about him being a bully is utter nonsense, though. Virtually all players who've played under him speak about his management style being firm but fair, local journalists seem to have no problem with him. Klopp seems to be adored by the press yet look at his conduct quite often- far worse than Pearson's.

[davieG]

57 minutes ago, Corky said:

I'm guilty of criticising managers myself about their conduct but it should be taken into account that these interviews are done in the aftermath of an emotional game, an important game and emotions are flying. How many of us on here have snapped at a pivotal moment in a game but 24 hours later have calmed down and reasoned with it? 

 

As proved, Pearson apologised within a day, acknowledged his behaviour was wrong and the journalist accepted it. But others, as Geoff has said, wanted to carry it on. If Pearson had his time again, I doubt he'd do it that way.

 

All this stuff about him being a bully is utter nonsense, though. Virtually all players who've played under him speak about his management style being firm but fair, local journalists seem to have no problem with him. Klopp seems to be adored by the press yet look at his conduct quite often- far worse than Pearson's.

I understand that the press might have a go at him for losing control it was just the attention to the ostrich as if he was the first one that had thought of it and it was the ultimate insult. It's just a figurative phase for ignoring or being oblivious to something. I think he even clarified it by asking him where he'd been all this time.

 

The mocking and criticism seemed to be all about his use of Ostrich rather than him losing it.

 

Anyway still confused.

[Tuna]

Sacked apparently?

 

 

[davieG]

6 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Sacked apparently?

 

 

Mail

 

Watford manager Nigel Pearson says he has 'an agreement' with the club over his future but there is a growing belief he will not be in charge next season.

[Fox in the North]

John Percy and Henry Winter have both confirmed he’s gone. Send them down!

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Obviously hope they go down now, mad decision, what do they hope to achieve from disrupting the squad with 2 incredibly difficult games left? Back to happily dispising Watford again. 

[ealingfox]

Fvck Watford, tinpot club.

[MPH]

how ungrateful.. they were dead and buried before he took over and he’s given them more of a fighting chance. Hope they go down now.

Edited 19 July 2020 by MPH

[oxford blue]

A poll on Watford Observer website shows 85% against this decision. It is difficult to comprehend the removal of their third manager within a season, particularly as Watford are clear of bottom three.I can see Watford going down, struggling to find a new talented manager (given he will know he has half a season at most unless Watford are in top 6).

 

Even if Watford had been relegated, I doubt there would be a better management team than Pearson and Shakespeare. - who would have had support of Watford fans. The owners risk losing support of their fans with their short sighted approach.

[Wymsey]

He has/had the highest win percentage rate than the other previous managers they've hired in recent seasons.

Really, what more can they ask for?

If Pearson's sacked because he failed to guide them up to where Newcastle and Southampton are, why didn't the clubs' owners invest more into the playing squad?

If Elton John was still there, he'd be having none of this.

[Manwell Pablo]

There are rumours he’s planted Adam Masina after Friday nights game.

 

Could well be bollocks but if true fair decision. 
 

Normally I’d be skeptical but since his appointment they’ve outperformed us Newcastle and West Ham and dug themselves out of a utterly hopeless situation, surely got to be something in this even if it’s not that.

Edited 19 July 2020 by Manwell Pablo

[Stadt]

36 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

There are rumours he’s planted Adam Masina after Friday nights game.

 

Could we’ll be bollocks but if true fair decision. 
 

Normally I’d be skeptical but since his appointment they’ve outperformed us Newcastle and West Ham and dug themselves out of a utterly hopeless situation, surely got to be something in this even if it’s not that.

A few on the Watford forum were saying he was sacked because he didn’t punch enough of them  

[Leicester_Loyal]

They're interested in Puel apparently