Dorkingfox Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 4 hours ago, Lesta2014 said: Allowed to protect your face, **** off if it hits your face and ****s your nose use your 100k a week to correct it! So much protection for the big boys, tackling in the games dead now saying can put hands infront of face, ridiculous absolutely ridiculous! The games gone and the law makers and referees have ruined it! The are all clueless Totally right, he could either duck or turn round or not be there at all. They know they will not get penalised so they do not care, that is how it works for the rich clubs. They make money for the prem and UEFA.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 If you're allowed to protect your face, then why doesn't everyone in the wall jump with their hands infront of their face? It might hit their elbow and stop a goal. Of course if our player did this it would result in a penalty for the opposition. I'm 100% convinced if they were the other way round and Praet had handballed it as KDB did, then it would have been a penalty.
StanSP Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 5 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: If you're allowed to protect your face, then why doesn't everyone in the wall jump with their hands infront of their face? It might hit their elbow and stop a goal. Of course if our player did this it would result in a penalty for the opposition. I'm 100% convinced if they were the other way round and Praet had handballed it as KDB did, then it would have been a penalty. 100%.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 11 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: If you're allowed to protect your face, then why doesn't everyone in the wall jump with their hands infront of their face? It might hit their elbow and stop a goal. Of course if our player did this it would result in a penalty for the opposition. I'm 100% convinced if they were the other way round and Praet had handballed it as KDB did, then it would have been a penalty. We should set our walls up with everyone’s hands above their faces. Guarantee it gets called straight away. You don’t even see shit like that in amateur football because everyone knows it’s a handball. Disgraceful.
joachim1965 Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 At the point mahrez plays the ball jesus was offside, just use the penalty box line and it looks clear.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 If he didn't move his head and put his hands up in defence and handled the ball, I'd have no problem; the ball would have hit his head anyway. But that's not what happened.
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 VAR is in crisis. I read other news pieces about questions around whether the technology is capable of getting the correct frame. Players move so quickly that a split second error in the frame can make the difference. If it relies on a human pausing a video then I’m afraid it’s just as, if not more, flawed than on field decisions.
AKCJ Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 9 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said: Struggling here, the balls in front of his face. You are allowed to head the ball.
Fox92 Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said: If you're allowed to protect your face, then why doesn't everyone in the wall jump with their hands infront of their face? It might hit their elbow and stop a goal. Of course if our player did this it would result in a penalty for the opposition. I'm 100% convinced if they were the other way round and Praet had handballed it as KDB did, then it would have been a penalty. Can't rep anymore today but 100% agree. And like I said a few pages back, if you don't like the ball hitting your face then don't stand in a fvcking wall where someone 10 yards away is about to smash a football.
CosbehFox Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 If the league is insistent on avoiding the IFAB’s recommendation that the referee should check the screen and his decision remain final....then the official in the Stockley Park VAR suite should be the same one or two persons, as it the moment it’s different week to week and we have a scenario where an inconsistency arises. Cant have Dean/Mason denying us a penalty one week for handball and then Tiernan/Coote saying a penalty few weeks later for very, very similar incidents. Also using the same bloke to do a game at 5.30 when the PGMOL have already confirmed he made an error (only reason they did that was because it had no adverse effect on the score) at the 12.30 game is foolish. Where’s the desire to improve standards if you are letting someone make a mistake, put them under a bus and then do the same job again hours later
StanSP Posted 23 February 2020 Posted 23 February 2020 33 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Also using the same bloke to do a game at 5.30 when the PGMOL have already confirmed he made an error (only reason they did that was because it had no adverse effect on the score) I agree but they mentioned they'd made an error before it reached full-time.
RoyalBlueGaz Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 I remember when I was a kid, learning about football and asking my dad lots of 'what if' questions, and one of them was 'what if you use your hands to stop the ball smashing you in the face'. He said that whatever the reason you've deliberately handballed so it's a foul, and to me 30+ years later it's still as simple as that. There is no law that protecting yourself in any situation is an exception: Laws of the game: fouls and misconduct You don't HAVE to make a wall when defending a free kick, but if you choose to stand 10 yards from someone about to blast the ball in your direction then be prepared for the worse. Yes I've stood in walls and it's not a very nice feeling watching that run up, but you're prepared to take one for the team, or in KDB's case you take one for the team AND a 200 grand a week pay packet. So yeah, the KDB penalty incident is stonewall in my opinion and I'm disappointed there wasn't more of a shout for it from our players.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 Starting to believe now that this was brought in to protect the traditional top 6.
bmt Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 01:04, Manwell Pablo said: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm Your allowed to protect yourself (face and groin if you look into it further) He’s moved his head and literally has his hands in a cross shield in front of his face facing the ball, the balls been whacked from 10 yards at a high speed. He’s closed his eyes as soon as he thinks it’s going to hit him, It’s all good you sat there with the slow motion replays, unless you’ve been in a wall with some ****er he can strike a ball you’ve got no idea what it is like. If he’s intentionally done that to divert the shot whilst making it look like he’s protecting his face he needs testing to make sure he’s not a descendant of skywalker. it’s clear but even with your best pair of blue tinted spectacles on, it’d be quite something to call it a clear and obvious error. Quite why you’ve all got your tin foil hates on about this when Ederson committed just shy of common assault on Nacho is quite beyond me but there we are. Wasn’t that rule superseded by new guidance this season though?
Spudulike Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 20 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Starting to believe now that this was brought in to protect the traditional top 6. A couple of weeks ago Danny Ings was brought down in the box for what was agreed a text book penalty. The ref bottled (nothing unual about that at Anfield, it's been going on since the 70's) and Liverpool broke away on the counter and scored. The 'expert' opinion was the game had moved into a different phase and could not be brought back. Same thing happened on Saturday to Bournemouth only this time it was deemed to be OK to bring it back for a Burnley penalty. It's becoming clearer that some clubs are more equal than others.
Suzie the Fox Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 11 hours ago, StanSP said: I agree but they mentioned they'd made an error before it reached full-time. The odd thing about that though, is if they made an error.. which they did and readily admitted he should have gone off off. Why, as the game was still being played wasnt he sent off?
Arkie Bennett Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 12 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: The odd thing about that though, is if they made an error.. which they did and readily admitted he should have gone off off. Why, as the game was still being played wasnt he sent off? This occurred to me yesterday. It's yet another example of the officials making things up as they go along, depending on which teams are involved.
Brainy Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 5 minutes ago, Arkie Bennett said: This occurred to me yesterday. It's yet another example of the officials making things up as they go along, depending on which teams are involved. In fairness there probably isn't a rule saying if they decide later during the match they ****ed up, they can take action 15mins later
st albans fox Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 12 hours ago, Spudulike said: A couple of weeks ago Danny Ings was brought down in the box for what was agreed a text book penalty. The ref bottled (nothing unual about that at Anfield, it's been going on since the 70's) and Liverpool broke away on the counter and scored. The 'expert' opinion was the game had moved into a different phase and could not be brought back. Same thing happened on Saturday to Bournemouth only this time it was deemed to be OK to bring it back for a Burnley penalty. It's becoming clearer that some clubs are more equal than others. Was this the actual PGMOL explanation or something a journo decided to say after speaking to a former referee ??.
Arkie Bennett Posted 24 February 2020 Posted 24 February 2020 5 minutes ago, Walkers said: In fairness there probably isn't a rule saying if they decide later during the match they ****ed up, they can take action 15mins later True, but neither is there one saying they can't.
Chrysalis Posted 26 February 2020 Posted 26 February 2020 Interesting that there is similar threads on other forums for clubs outside the big 6 as well.
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