brucey Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 6 minutes ago, Markyblue said: A bit of perspective... 90000 cases worldwide it started in china weeks ago and in a country of 1.4 billions and world wide as well about 3000 have died. China had the advantage of pre existing Big Brother type tracking and the ability to stop millions of people from leaving their homes, which is how they got control of it. In almost every other country, that strategy is not feasible. Particularly in countries that are in denial and/or prioritise personal freedom, like the USA. Eg. Washington, where it has been circulating for two months, has the largest outbreak in USA (hundreds to thousands infected). And they have absolutely refused to cancel the 4 day Seattle Comic Con next week, right in the middle of the outbreak, with 100k attendees from all over the world expected. That will go well. At some point people will have to accept that this is actually really bad instead of repeatedly moving the goalposts as to how 'it's not that bad yet' . It's already killed more than SARS or MERS and we're barely just got started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmt Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 minutes ago, brucey said: China had the advantage of pre existing Big Brother type tracking and the ability to stop millions of people from leaving their homes, which is how they got control of it. In almost every other country, that strategy is not feasible. Particularly in countries that are in denial and/or prioritise personal freedom, like the USA. Eg. Washington, where it has been circulating for two months, has the largest outbreak in USA (hundreds to thousands infected). And they have absolutely refused to cancel the 4 day Seattle Comic Con next week, right in the middle of the outbreak, with 100k attendees from all over the world expected. That will go well. At some point people will have to accept that this is actually really bad instead of repeatedly moving the goalposts as to how 'it's not that bad yet' . It's already killed more than SARS or MERS and we're barely just got started. This. I got laughed at the other day for suggesting the British attitude to it was arrogant. Comparing it to normal flu etc is so stupid it's unreal. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 The point of concern will be when it significantly outstrips seasonal flu in terms of deaths, not media story's like SARS or even MERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsJohnMurphy Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 hours ago, somebum said: It's all engineered/manufactured garbage. But be afraid, be very afraid. @Zingari is that you? Welcome back mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 11 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: The point of concern will be when it significantly outstrips seasonal flu in terms of deaths, not media story's like SARS or even MERS Seasonal flu kills a few thousand each year. Deaths from coronavirus are in addition to deaths from seasonal flu. You're saying we should only be worried when coronavirus deaths are significantly more than flu deaths. So you still wouldn't be worried once coronavirus deaths are equal to flu deaths, thus doubling the number of total deaths? Do you need triple the number of deaths to occur before taking this seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grebfromgrebland Posted 6 March 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 hours ago, Rusko187 said: Think we all know people who have health issues that may be of more serious risk, to prevent spread of a virus which could kill these people, I'm all in favour of being played behind closed doors. My father has varying health issues, I'd rather keep him alive then go to a football match. Plastic! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: Keep digging. What for saying that I didn’t mean to cause offence? Weird. Edited 6 March 2020 by Matt_Lcfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bss9401 Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 4 hours ago, notnow john said: You do realise malaria is NOT cantagious,right. Doesn't matter. Those mossies have been on the Nike Oregan project with Salazar. Well ripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 21 minutes ago, brucey said: Seasonal flu kills a few thousand each year. Deaths from coronavirus are in addition to deaths from seasonal flu. You're saying we should only be worried when coronavirus deaths are significantly more than flu deaths. So you still wouldn't be worried once coronavirus deaths are equal to flu deaths, thus doubling the number of total deaths? Do you need triple the number of deaths to occur before taking this seriously? No, that's not what I said nor meant at all. I was suggesting that once Covid-19 kills more than the current seasonal flu (not in conjunction with) then it is a point of further genuine concern. As far as I understand, it is close to that level now, so this will likely be of considerable concern globally. Do not think I am making light of Covid-19, I am certainly not and the same can be said for seasonal flu. It has actually closed schools in the area where I live, not my sons school, but it is very much in peoples minds in this locale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String fellow Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 So the PL is to stop pre-match handshakes. But what about pre-match team group hugs? The Mail is suggesting today that the rest of the football season could be abandoned, and that this season's results could be declared null and void! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 minutes ago, String fellow said: So the PL is to stop pre-match handshakes. But what about pre-match team group hugs? The Mail is suggesting today that the rest of the football season could be abandoned, and that this season's results could be declared null and void! No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 4 minutes ago, String fellow said: So the PL is to stop pre-match handshakes. But what about pre-match team group hugs? The Mail is suggesting today that the rest of the football season could be abandoned, and that this season's results could be declared null and void! The Mail trying to cause mass panic? Never! It wont happen. Games will jsut be played behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 There is no additional risk in players that share the same dressing room passing it onto each other on a match day - the issue is with the oppositinnand refs who are from a different region of the country Any newspaper/media outlet saying differently are just talking sh1t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 3 minutes ago, st albans fox said: There is no additional risk in players that share the same dressing room passing it onto each other on a match day - the issue is with the oppositinnand refs who are from a different region of the country Any newspaper/media outlet saying differently are just talking sh1t One of the coaches can ref and one of the subs from each team can run the line - like Sunday League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 minutes ago, stripeyfox said: One of the coaches can ref and one of the subs from each team can run the line - like Sunday League! We’d still get screwed, even with our own officials ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 4 minutes ago, st albans fox said: We’d still get screwed, even with our own officials ! Chilwell might be a really good lino though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 hours ago, brucey said: China had the advantage of pre existing Big Brother type tracking and the ability to stop millions of people from leaving their homes, which is how they got control of it. In almost every other country, that strategy is not feasible. Particularly in countries that are in denial and/or prioritise personal freedom, like the USA. Eg. Washington, where it has been circulating for two months, has the largest outbreak in USA (hundreds to thousands infected). And they have absolutely refused to cancel the 4 day Seattle Comic Con next week, right in the middle of the outbreak, with 100k attendees from all over the world expected. That will go well. At some point people will have to accept that this is actually really bad instead of repeatedly moving the goalposts as to how 'it's not that bad yet' . It's already killed more than SARS or MERS and we're barely just got started. I knew Merson was a flawed character but didn't realise he was a killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamark Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 Our increased awareness of hand washing and hygiene may well have a good effect on general health.If we can just stop smoking.drinking overeating and take some exercise we could be on to something.Not seeing any smoking related panic even though it kills folk in bulk. I do trust the science on the crowd issue didn't make the point very well but if kids don't go to school they still mix with others or stay with grandma while mum is at work..Match on Monday I will be with my son in the car walk to the game then sit close to a handful of others then reverse.If I don't go its the pub and at least the same mix. Go to go now to get some toilet roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody2028 Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 5 minutes ago, dynamark said: Our increased awareness of hand washing and hygiene may well have a good effect on general health.If we can just stop smoking.drinking overeating and take some exercise we could be on to something.Not seeing any smoking related panic even though it kills folk in bulk. I do trust the science on the crowd issue didn't make the point very well but if kids don't go to school they still mix with others or stay with grandma while mum is at work..Match on Monday I will be with my son in the car walk to the game then sit close to a handful of others then reverse.If I don't go its the pub and at least the same mix. Go to go now to get some toilet roll Thought you said cutting ‘overreacting’ at first glance, this forum would be destroyed if we were to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamark Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 Overreacting is good because sitting behind your own keyboard is safe as houses. Just back from Tenerife and they are asking staff to wash hands thoroughly before they start work which seems sound. I'm in the West stand by the way if you wish to avoid.row Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 hours ago, purpleronnie said: No chance. I'd rather catch the damn thing and be done with it. That government medical advisor said that 99+ out of 100 people will only feel mild virus symptoms. I understand vulnerable etc and I'm prone to chest infections with asthma so I'm under no illusion as to the consequences, but life has to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 2 hours ago, String fellow said: So the PL is to stop pre-match handshakes. But what about pre-match team group hugs? The Mail is suggesting today that the rest of the football season could be abandoned, and that this season's results could be declared null and void! They train together every day, I’m sure a team hug isn’t going to make a difference. They’re shaking hands with the opposition. Not that it’ll make a difference, they’re all going to be in contact with each other for 90mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 Everyone infected should be taken up to the islands at the top of Scotland till this all blows over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxford blue Posted 6 March 2020 Share Posted 6 March 2020 I recognise the seriousness of corona virus and the rate it is spreading but the last government report https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/839350/Surveillance_of_influenza_and_other_respiratory_viruses_in_the_UK_2018_to_2019-FINAL.pdf shows likely attributable deaths to seasonal flu: 2014/015 - 28330 2015/16 - 11785 2016/17 - 18009 2017/18 - 26408 2018/19 - 1692 This averages 17,350 more deaths a year than currently reported for corona virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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