Coronavirus Thread

[yorkie1999]

11 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

The EU haven't covered themselves in glory tonight have they?!

Not really, the eu have spent the last few years telling us we weren’t allowed to stick a border across the island of Ireland and then they almost do it themselves , we’ve got remainers demanding the borders are locked down, the brexiteers demanding we open everything up for free movement and member states of the eu, namely Germany, ordering their own vaccine and totally ignoring the demands of the capital of Europe, Brussels. It’s all going to go tits up, and if we want free holidays forever, Boris really needs to tap Greece up with the vaccine.

[Corky]

2 hours ago, DennisNedry said:

The MSM would be up in arms if we were behaving like this towards the EU though. They're acting shamefully at the moment and escaping criticism everywhere except the Murdoch papers.

I meant from the EU side. Nobody can afford to delay this.

[dsr-burnley]

2 hours ago, bovril said:

This is a meltdown of pretty epic proportions from the EU. It's also very foolish of them to criticise the UK as it makes it easier for our government to claim it's a 'Brexit benefit'. 

From their point of view, more the point is that 27 domestic Farages and Johnsons have a lot more ammo to use within their own countries to foment anti-EU sentiment and say "look what happens to countries who stay, look what happens to countries who leave".  And the 27 sets of domestic politicians will be blaming the EU for all they're worth, if only because they don't want to take the blame themselves.

[surrifox]

3 hours ago, Magictv said:

They're acting like a right bunch of ***** here - can see us getting ****ed over with Pfizer export bans screwing up our second doses. Hope not!

 

Not sure what leverage we've got over them to stop this export ban, I can't imagine they're bothered by avoiding bad press or doing the morally right thing when there's millions of vaccine doses on the line. Maybe we'll just have to sack off new first doses of Pfizer and reserve what we've got for second doses or something.

Might be able to source more Pfizer from the US to maintain the programme . We are dealing with a co.not a country after all. As I understand it there is no shortage of product in the States and their issues concern Trump’s failure to order any vaccine and the lack of a coherent distribution plan. The symbolism 🖕to the EU would be powerful .

[Leicester_Loyal]

 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

9 hours ago, ian__marshall said:

I feel quite annoyed that the EU seem to be framing this whole situation as if the UK are responsible for them not receiving these vaccines.

 

3 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

The EU haven't covered themselves in glory tonight have they?!

They've had an absolute shocker over this. And the Brexit-hating, democracy-denying FBPE mob on social media are struggling to defend their beloved EU.

The UK have played a blinder by not getting into a slanging match. Not often you can say Boris has got the moral high ground but certainly has here.

 

 

[StanSP]

4 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

The UK have played a blinder by not getting into a slanging match. Not often you can say Boris has got the moral high ground but certainly has here.

Overstates it a bit there

Glad he's keeping his mouth shut about it, mind. 

[StanSP]

Bloody members of the public! Government do no wrong 

 

[yorkie1999]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Bloody members of the public! Government do no wrong 

 

And they’ve got bars. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were filled with 60” plasmas with a different footy match on each of them

Edited 30 January 2021 by yorkie1999

[Houdini Logic]

The EU is acting like a dodgy ex

[Spudulike]

8 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

 

They've had an absolute shocker over this. And the Brexit-hating, democracy-denying FBPE mob on social media are struggling to defend their beloved EU.

The UK have played a blinder by not getting into a slanging match. Not often you can say Boris has got the moral high ground but certainly has here.

 

 

Their 'whataboutery' seems to be the only defence they can offer. Bit like the Scottish Nationalists. 

 

Not sure how the EU institution will recover from this. It would be laughable if it wasn't so painfully tragic costing lives. Shameful negligence. 

[StanSP]

8 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

 

They've had an absolute shocker over this. And the Brexit-hating, democracy-denying FBPE mob on social media are struggling to defend their beloved EU.

The UK have played a blinder by not getting into a slanging match. Not often you can say Boris has got the moral high ground but certainly has here.

 

 

 

[bovril]

I like how people mock the histrionics of the FBPErs with their own histrionic posts.

 

The EU will recover. If anything it's shown just how reliant we will be on them. I expect we'll see a lot more of this in the coming years. 

[ealingfox]

The faux outrage and glaring hypocrisy is pretty funny I have to say. Certainly hasnt been handled well though.

[Spudulike]

1 minute ago, ealingfox said:

The faux outrage and glaring hypocrisy is pretty funny I have to say. Certainly hasnt been handled well though.

Quite odd what some find funny. 'hasn't been handled well'?! Understatement of the century. 

 

Macron's irresponsibility may turn France into a covid no-go area. 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Quite odd what some find funny. 'hasn't been handled well'?! Understatement of the century. 

 

Macron's irresponsibility may turn France into a covid no-go area. 

...nothing on the hypocrisy, then?

[leicsmac]

22 minutes ago, StanSP said:

 

What are you doing coming in here with your nuance, Stan! Don't you see it isn't welcome? 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

The government have got something right a year in to a pandemic. Forget the 100k deaths, the mates contracts, the dozens of bad decisions, corbyn would have obviously done worse anyway. Vote Blue! 

[Spudulike]

9 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

...nothing on the hypocrisy, then?

Whataboutery. 

[leicsmac]

13 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Whataboutery. 

Yep.

 

What about a government who have handled this entire crisis with a seemingly singular lack of competence, up until they finally got the vaccine regimen right?

And what about a supra-governmental organisation that have handled this all incredibly poorly and egotistically in their efforts to appear tough and save face, while doing rather sterling work elsewhere?

 

This "two sides, pick one" bollocks is, well...bollocks.

[surrifox]

9 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

 

They've had an absolute shocker over this. And the Brexit-hating, democracy-denying FBPE mob on social media are struggling to defend their beloved EU.

The UK have played a blinder by not getting into a slanging match. Not often you can say Boris has got the moral high ground but certainly has here.

 

 

Come off it - are you saying that allowing a Couple of minor politicians from Cyprus and Latvia to attempt to unilaterally impose a border in Ireland wasn’t a good idea ?

[Nuneatonfox in Manchester]

30 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

What are you doing coming in here with your nuance, Stan! Don't you see it isn't welcome? 

How many times are you gonna make this quip? 
Jeez

[Nalis]

Best things for all parties would be to move on from this and focus on a positive relationship between the UK and EU.

[leicsmac]

12 minutes ago, Nuneatonfox in Manchester said:

How many times are you gonna make this quip? 
Jeez

As long as people are reactionary, I guess. So might be a fair few times.

 

Apologies if drawing attention to simplistic black-and-white thought consistently is wearing.

[bovril]

13 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Best things for all parties would be to move on from this and focus on a positive relationship between the UK and EU.

Go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint etc....