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47 minutes ago, String fellow said:

In fairness to the Prime Minister, he gets his exercise on his bicycle, and possibly in bed. On attending gyms, surely it makes more financial sense in the long run (no pun intended) to buy your equipment.

Some gym equipment costs upwards of £10k so no, it’s doesn’t always make more financial sense.

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8 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

 

And bearing this in mind, why should there be a need for everyone, including children (which Sage is pushing for), to be vaccinated?  This is the key question that needs to be addressed as you work your way down the age groups.  

I believe the main argument is that if the virus is allowed to run rampant among younger people, then the chances of a dodgy mutation are enhanced. If you're vaccinated then your body should prevent the virus from being able to replicate as much as it'll be trained to attack it quicker. Therefore reducing chance of illness, transmission and mutation. That's my very layman understanding of it anyway.

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16 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

They really are a shambles aren’t they? I thought Tory Governments were the ones who supported small local businesses. 

They do, you just need to know one of them.

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1 hour ago, String fellow said:

In fairness to the Prime Minister, he gets his exercise on his bicycle, and possibly in bed. On attending gyms, surely it makes more financial sense in the long run (no pun intended) to buy your equipment.

And rarely in his own...

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22 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

They really are a shambles aren’t they? I thought Tory Governments were the ones who supported small local businesses. 

I've said it before but I'll say it again, hats off to you for continuing to be critical. Not doomsaying, not unwavering, but critical.

 

We'd be in a better place as a country if more people thought critically, as you do.

 

For context, Leicester Loyal and I came to logger heads at around the time of the beginning of the outbreak, with him posting Conservative-supporting comments that I disagreed with. Despite this stance, LL has continued to observe facts and digest them critically. 

 

This isn't to say all anti-Tory rhetoric is right and pro-Tory is wrong, by the way. But it's just refreshing to see someone putting 'sides' out of the equation.

 

FWIW I'm not sure how much better Labour would have been at handling it. You'd imagine it can't be much worse than what we've had, but nobody can say with confidence it would be substantially better.

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2 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

I've said it before but I'll say it again, hats off to you for continuing to be critical. Not doomsaying, not unwavering, but critical.

 

We'd be in a better place as a country if more people thought critically, as you do.

 

For context, Leicester Loyal and I came to logger heads at around the time of the beginning of the outbreak, with him posting Conservative-supporting comments that I disagreed with. Despite this stance, LL has continued to observe facts and digest them critically. 

 

This isn't to say all anti-Tory rhetoric is right and pro-Tory is wrong, by the way. But it's just refreshing to see someone putting 'sides' out of the equation.

 

FWIW I'm not sure how much better Labour would have been at handling it. You'd imagine it can't be much worse than what we've had, but nobody can say in confidence it would be substantially better.

Really appreciate that post, thank you.

 

We all have shit days, I probably more than most, but thankfully we have some light at the end of the tunnel and I honestly don't think the Government will be able to continue as we are for much longer even if they wanted too.

 

From what I've seen it just seems that this Government continues to shit on certain industries. If they're not safe then fair enough, provide the data and evidence and support them financially, I don't think the public would have an issue with it (I know I certainly wouldn't), but when they do things like Eat Out 2 Help Out to then say hospitality isn't safe a few weeks later, it makes zero sense. The 'schools are safe' comment from Boris on the Sunday evening to 'we must close schools immediately' on the Monday evening was another one, it doesn't inspire any form of confidence.

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1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

They're gonna have a hell of a task enforcing another lockdown if this all goes tits up. It's time to start getting back to some sort of normality 

The worrying thing for me is that I don’t think they would have much of a problem enforcing another lockdown. They have managed to do it reasonably well so far. The fines / punishments are so great that many people and businesses won’t break the rules.

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16 minutes ago, Lcfc82 said:

The worrying thing for me is that I don’t think they would have much of a problem enforcing another lockdown. They have managed to do it reasonably well so far. The fines / punishments are so great that many people and businesses won’t break the rules.

Businesses will have to adhere but can't see people staying away from friends and family for another lengthy period

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Roadmap seems reasonable to me.  Can argue on the gap between the different steps but they had to have some duration.  Just nice to have rough dates as, personally, was really starting to struggle with no idea how long this was going on for.

 

Threat of local lockdown bit worrying given the stats here.

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2 hours ago, foxile5 said:

You're right that there's probably some financial sense to buying your own kit over a long period of time.

 

However, my gym offers classes as part of the membership. I can do things like circuits by myself - I wouldn't be as motivated and lack the know-how. Also the spread of kit would cost me a fortune to acquire (though may just pay for itself) and would necessitate a vast auditorium to house. I live in a terrace house.

 

There's also the nebulous benefit to being a member of a gym. They force you to attend, or at least for people like me they do. I'm paying for it so I'm going to use it. There is the 'I'll do it another day' attitude to exercise at the minute. 

 

Just as an addendum. Don't be fair to the Prime Minister. He sure as hell isn't fair to you.

The Prime Minister and his government have almost certainly helped save my life, firstly by telling me (and everyone else of my age who is quite likely to die if they catch a big dose of Covid-19) to stay indoors and take all the other precautions, then secondly by providing me with the Pfizer vaccine at the earliest possible opportunity (just after Christmas).

On the question of exercise, it seems to me that either a long run or bike ride are much cheaper alternatives to attending a gym or buying gym equipment. Duncan Bannatyne is a multi-millionaire thanks to the attendees of gyms. 

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So really after Easter things will start getting back to normal which is when they did say they hope to have most people who are vulnerable and elderly fully vaccinated.

 

Obviously have to wait a bit longer to do things inside.

 

Encouraging news about the vaccine too.

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2 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Why on Earth would restrictions for weddings remain in place if large events are allowed to go ahead?

I think because controlled large events where people isolate are different to hundreds of people dancing and mingling indoors rat arsed haha

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1 minute ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I think because controlled large events where people isolate are different to hundreds of people dancing and mingling indoors rat arsed haha

But if the aim is for all legal limits on social contact to end by the same date, that makes no sense?

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9 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Why on Earth would restrictions for weddings remain in place if large events are allowed to go ahead?

I was hoping they would do it based on venue size and capacity determined by that. Guess it's logistically more difficult to do that though. 

 

My partner and I had pretty much been resigned to it being 15 people in April anyway and had banked on the fact that would be announced today. Not ideal but we'd made our peace with it. 

 

The Indian wedding though in August.... That looks more promising as to what we envisaged it to be :D :D :D

 

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