Coronavirus Thread

[Lcfc82]

[stix]

3 hours ago, RoboFox said:

Whenever step 4 drops, this country will be absolute carnage. 

 

The state of our town / city centres. 

[Facecloth]

5 minutes ago, Izzy said:

Yeah I'm only watching it on my laptop in my office so I don't have to be in the same room as the wife and kids tbf

Most people take their laptop upstairs away from the family to watch porn, Izzy watches a Coronavirus briefing 

[Leicester_Loyal]

7 minutes ago, stix said:

I genuinely can't wait. This country is full of scumbags and I'm so proud to be part of it

[Wymsey]

Am satisfied with the steps plan.

Presume no capacity at the football until next season?

[st albans fox]

surely it’s not about cases but about hospitalisations?  I presume that the data over the next six weeks will show how that relationship is changing thanks to the vaccine effect .....however, if large tranches of the population are not getting vaccinated (potentially the BAME community according to some studies  ) then surely there is a danger that the NHS remains under too much pressure and this drags on longer than it needs to  ???

[Legend_in_blue]

Surprisingly modelling was not discussed.  Whitty at one point questioned the need for them in response to journalists questions!  

 

However, Imperial College's modelling based on today's announcement by various oracle members including Ferguson can be found here:

 

https://t.co/NZ6LjIE4FJ?amp=1

 

They've omitted following trends in 2020 and the effects of seasonality in their models.  No wonder it wasn't brought up in the slide presentation today which attempted to paint a more optimistic view. 

Edited 22 February 2021 by Legend_in_blue

[foxile5]

5 hours ago, String fellow said:

The Prime Minister and his government have almost certainly helped save my life, firstly by telling me (and everyone else of my age who is quite likely to die if they catch a big dose of Covid-19) to stay indoors and take all the other precautions, then secondly by providing me with the Pfizer vaccine at the earliest possible opportunity (just after Christmas).

An act of government isn't the same as fairness but I'm glad you feel looked after. 

[Paninistickers]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

surely it’s not about cases but about hospitalisations?  I presume that the data over the next six weeks will show how that relationship is changing thanks to the vaccine effect .....however, if large tranches of the population are not getting vaccinated (potentially the BAME community according to some studies  ) then surely there is a danger that the NHS remains under too much pressure and this drags on longer than it needs to  ???

Any stats on how many existing hospitalisations are those under 50?

 

At a pure guess, 20% tops. 

 

And assuming take up of vaccine in those aged 25-50 is a modest 30%.....thatd shave further numbers off future hospitalizations. 

 

Basically, I can't see the NHS remaining under this level of current  pressure....things will ease

[Stivo]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

surely it’s not about cases but about hospitalisations?  I presume that the data over the next six weeks will show how that relationship is changing thanks to the vaccine effect .....however, if large tranches of the population are not getting vaccinated (potentially the BAME community according to some studies  ) then surely there is a danger that the NHS remains under too much pressure and this drags on longer than it needs to  ???

Indeed.  90% protection against hospitalisation with 85% take up say reduces hospitalisations by 75% which is great.  The currently vaccinated group is only about 50% of hospitalisations. So it will reduce it by 37% overall, not so great. 

With secondary schools going back it’s now a race between the exponential rise of the kent variant causing hospital admissions, the vaccination program for the other priority groups and the Easter school holidays.

[Stivo]

17 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Surprisingly modelling was not discussed.  Whitty at one point questioned the need for them in response to journalists questions!  

 

However, Imperial College's modelling based on today's announcement by various oracle members including Ferguson can be found here:

 

https://t.co/NZ6LjIE4FJ?amp=1

 

They've omitted following trends in 2020 and the effects of seasonality in their models.  No wonder it wasn't brought up in the slide presentation today which attempted to paint a more optimistic view. 

You can read the combined outputs which is a consensus.

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/887434/18-spi-m-o-consensus-statement-17022020.pdf

 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

5 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Too slow.  The death & even hospitalisation rate is going to drop massively in the next couple of weeks.

I'd rather have things move quicker from a selfish point of view (gyms, salons open etc, fans back at football sooner) but I'll take a bit more patience now so we never have to lock down again. 

I wonder if they're buying themselves some wriggle room and could move things forward quicker if circumstance dictate, a bit of playing politics etc

They're giving people hope but obviously don't want them to take the piss too soon.

 

3 hours ago, Izzy said:

Fvck off Kuenssberg. "I know you won't want to put figures on how many more will die, but what sort of numbers do you think will die?"

 

2 hours ago, Corky said:

So many people who I hope bugger off out of sight once we're out of lockdowns. Kuenssburg, Peston, Hancock, Ferguson- all will hopefully drift away.

 

2 hours ago, Lcfc82 said:

These journalists are a right pain in arse, ask the most stupid questions 

Govts should always be held to account but some of the Qs from journalists over the past year have been laughable and I think the public at large have noticed that

[Leicester_Loyal]

 

[Corky]

2 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I'd rather have things move quicker from a selfish point of view (gyms, salons open etc, fans back at football sooner) but I'll take a bit more patience now so we never have to lock down again. 

 

We're having another lockdown at some point, probably next autumn.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 minute ago, Corky said:

We're having another lockdown at some point, probably next autumn.

Thanks for shattering my positivity Corky mate 

[Facecloth]

5 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I'd rather have things move quicker from a selfish point of view (gyms, salons open etc, fans back at football sooner)

Thought that would be the last thing you'd be bothered about 

[foxile5]

3 minutes ago, Corky said:

We're having another lockdown at some point, probably next autumn.

I cannot handle another. I hope that this is right and we're doing the correct thing. 

 

 

[Corky]

3 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Thanks for shattering my positivity Corky mate 

I want to believe it's the last but you read the SAGE stuff, the tweet Leicester Loyal shared, this will always win out.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 minute ago, Facecloth said:

Thought that would be the last thing you'd be bothered about 

Beauty salon rather than hair salon - back wax, nails, sunbed... bring it on !!

[SpacedX]

[dsr-burnley]

2 hours ago, Stivo said:

You can read the combined outputs which is a consensus.

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/887434/18-spi-m-o-consensus-statement-17022020.pdf

 

I think perhaps you haven't looked at the date on that report.  Suffice to say that a consensus from just over a year ago is not a useful guide to what happens to coronavirus in summer.

[leicsmac]

In non-UK related news:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56159756

 

A very grim milestone.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56156234

 

A little snippet from the other side of the world. The response hasn't been perfect, but it's been alright - and if they say they're going to get 70% vaccinated with the first jab by mid-September, then given what's happened so far I'm inclined to believe them.

[yorkie1999]

3 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

That’s 50% of the amount of deaths since this started in a non vaccinated population from a virus that is responsible for the deaths of mainly over 70’s, that have all been vaccinated! These figures don’t make sense.

[Dan LCFC]

Vaccinations should put an end to this for good. If it doesn't then what on earth was the point? Can't wait for the day we never have to hear of SAGE again.

 

Announcement was slightly better than the rumours last night but that wasn't an accident. They were always going to land something somewhere between what they should be (when all 50+ are vaccinated) and what the rumours were last night.

 

Feel sorry for pubs. Absolutely shafted yet again.

Edited 23 February 2021 by Dan LCFC

[st albans fox]

5 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

That’s 50% of the amount of deaths since this started in a non vaccinated population from a virus that is responsible for the deaths of mainly over 70’s, that have all been vaccinated! These figures don’t make sense.

I am beginning to struggle with the numbers. Maybe we’re not being told everything we need to about the effectiveness of the first jab without a booster ??

 

I know that in my mums care home, two residents have passed away in the last week having tested positive for covid within the past 28 days. and they all had the Pfizer jab early jan.  I assume they died from being old but their deaths will go in the covid column and I have no idea if them catching covid accelerated their passing.  The word from the place is that those who are catching the virus are not as ill as would be expected. I guess some of the elderly and vulnerable will still get poorly enough to push their bodies that bit too far.