RowlattsFox Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Whatever the result you can argue it's positive for us so that's a good thing. But I'd rather be 8 points ahead of West Ham than 2 points ahead of Man Utd at this stage. I guess a draw gives us near to best of both worlds but with West Ham game in hand and playing us, that could be 1 point ahead in a couple of weeks or even ahead of us as we play Man City in between. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 14 March 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 14 March 2021 5 minutes ago, shen said: Is it too greedy to ask for a draw? Wouldn't want a draw. United are going to finish in the top four, that's near enough a fact as can be. We want them to win any games they have left vs 4th - 10th. West Ham are probably the biggest concern of the chasing pack at the moment. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bennytwohats Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Webbo said: Any result is a plus from that game, but I'd love Man U to lose. I don’t see how United loses helps us much unless we’re in a situation where we are fighting for second spot. For me the marginal benefit of getting second over third is pretty paltry compared to possibly cementing fourth. In that regard surely a United win or a draw is our best outcome? Or are you thinking of it playing out in some different way? Edited 14 March 2021 by bennytwohats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla10 Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 (edited) I can go back and forth trying to work out which result suits us the best. But honestly I'm happy whatever happens I think it'll still feel like a good result. ManU win and we distance the chasing pack. ManU lose and yay ManU lose but bonus we have a two point gap and sit in SECOND in the table. A draw is somewhere between the two. It's all just win win. Edited 14 March 2021 by Hoopla10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 15 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said: Only 4 Champions League spots up for grabs, whilst these 2 are still in Europe there’s always a chance they nick one by winning the Europa. If that is still the way of things? No. I think there's 5 CL places if someone finishing outside the top 4 wins CL/EL. For 4th not to qualify, both Euro trophies would have to be won by English clubs finishing outside top 4. Could happen, but pretty unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bennytwohats Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 I think it’s fair to say that whatever else happens is been an absolutely amazing weekend for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sampson Posted 14 March 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 14 March 2021 Just now, Hoopla10 said: I can go back and forth trying to work out which result suits us the best. Buy honestly I'm happy whatever happens I think it'll still feel like a good result. ManU win and we distance the chasing pack. ManU lose and yay ManU lose but bonus we have a two point gap and sit in SECOND in the table. A draw is somewhere between the two. It's all just win win. Man United win absolutely no question. After last season we should realise as nice as it is to finish 2nd, finishing 4th is what matters. One of Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham and Everton can catch us and that's ok - but 2 of them cant. We need those 4 teams to drop points at every opportunity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Just now, Finnegan said: Wouldn't want a draw. United are going to finish in the top four, that's near enough a fact as can be. We want them to win any games they have left vs 4th - 10th. West Ham are probably the biggest concern of the chasing pack at the moment. Sure, but we could conceivably still finish above Man Utd in second or third. West Ham have to make up 8 points in 11 games. With a draw that's 7 points in 10 games, which is a tough ask even if they keep their form going. I would generally always prefer rivals sharing 2 points rather than one of them getting 3. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 I'm delighted Lamela got sent off, can't stand the scowling little melt. Always struck me as the sort of person who sniffs their own farts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Man Utd late winner to spark a mass brawl that leaves every member of both squads either injured or banned for the remainder of the season, please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Just now, Sampson said: Man United win absolutely no question. After last season we should realise as nice as it is to finish 2nd, finishing 4th is what matters. One of Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham and Everton can catch us and that's ok - but 2 of them cant. We need those 4 teams to drop points at every opportunity. I know this is a very sensible point but I just can't stand Ole's smug face and as for Bruno 😡😡😡 🤷♀️😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla10 Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 1 minute ago, Raw Dykes said: No. I think there's 5 CL places if someone finishing outside the top 4 wins CL/EL. For 4th not to qualify, both Euro trophies would have to be won by English clubs finishing outside top 4. Could happen, but pretty unlikely. So it also means Liverpool have to win the CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Just now, Guest said: Man Utd late winner to spark a mass brawl that leaves every member of both squads either injured or banned for the remainder of the season, please all 11 West Ham players do their ACLs at the same time so they have to forfeit the game. All 11 Man Utd players do their ACLs leaving the pitch. Thats the dream scenario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 1 minute ago, Hales said: I know this is a very sensible point but I just can't stand Ole's smug face and as for Bruno 😡😡😡 🤷♀️😁 Don't get me wrong, cheering on Arsenal just now made me feel woozy, but it's for the greater good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 The North London Derby is now about as relevant as Forest v Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 (edited) Draw with injuries, please. I simply can't abide rooting for a club as rotten as Man Utd when a win would put them above us, sorry. I'd honestly be cool with West Ham gatecrashing the top four as long as they don't catch us in doing so. It messes up the b*g s*x narrative even more than if we do it solo. Edited 14 March 2021 by OntarioFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Give us a draw in this and I'm very happy. Still think United are getting better results than their performances deserve. Lose Fernandes and they could easily go on a poor run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 6 minutes ago, bennytwohats said: I don’t see how United loses helps us much unless we’re in a situation where we are fighting for second spot. For me the marginal benefit of getting second over third is pretty paltry compared to possibly cementing fourth. In that regard surely a United win or a draw is our best outcome? Or are you thinking of it playing out in some different way? It'd be nice to finish runners up. The glory is more important to me than being in the group stages of the champions league. Plus I hate Man U. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntman_Mike Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Just now, Sampson said: Man United win absolutely no question. After last season we should realise as nice as it is to finish 2nd, finishing 4th is what matters. One of Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham and Everton can catch us and that's ok - but 2 of them cant. We need those 4 teams to drop points at every opportunity. Plus we still have both West Ham and Man Utd to play so we have that in our own hands. We need to focus on securing top 4 first so that means widening the gap on 5th right now and focusing on the possibility of 2nd after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 Mark Noble should do the right thing and nobble Fernandes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 4 minutes ago, Guest said: Man Utd late winner to spark a mass brawl that leaves every member of both squads either injured or banned for the remainder of the season, please The mass brawl in matches like this (and subsequent suspensions/bans) is always the most desirable outcome. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla10 Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 2 minutes ago, Sampson said: Man United win absolutely no question. After last season we should realise as nice as it is to finish 2nd, finishing 4th is what matters. One of Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham and Everton can catch us and that's ok - but 2 of them cant. We need those 4 teams to drop points at every opportunity. I get it but I'm not a huge fan of looking for margins and relying on other teams to drop points to make life easier on ourselves. That's not to say I don't also struggle with doing it. I'd rather be positive and have belief in our team to fight for every position in the table we're capable of (for me that's second). In fear of stealing Mourinho words, I want to look up, not down. That being said if ManU win I'll not lose sleep over it and will see the positive in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkie Bennett Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 4 minutes ago, shen said: Sure, but we could conceivably still finish above Man Utd in second or third. West Ham have to make up 8 points in 11 games. With a draw that's 7 points in 10 games, which is a tough ask even if they keep their form going. I would generally always prefer rivals sharing 2 points rather than one of them getting 3. That’s my take on it too. If we collect 3 points and our rivals drop 2 points each then we move further ahead of both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 3 minutes ago, Hoopla10 said: So it also means Liverpool have to win the CL? Yes, I believe so, and also the Europa would have to be won by Arsenal or Spurs for 4th place to miss out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 14 March 2021 Share Posted 14 March 2021 I want Manchester United to lose, 2nd spot is so important for us not to get dragged into a 3rd / 4th battle, I am not worried about West Ham they will finish 6th imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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