Premier League 2020/21 Thread

[oxtonfox]

I do fancy Brentford for the play off final. I think they could do alright out of the 3 promoted clubs. 

Edited 1 August 2020 by oxtonfox

[420Hashish]

58 minutes ago, oxtonfox said:

I do fancy Brentford for the play off final. I think they could do alright out of the 3 promoted clubs. 

I don't think the Irishman would like Brentford to be promoted 

[StanSP]

12 hours ago, st albans fox said:

 Not sure how you expect the ref to give that handball ?  And I don’t think VAR is able to get involved as not one of the listed instances ....

 

12 hours ago, twister said:

It was odd how the bbc did not event show a replay though

 

I have come to conclusion at this point that referees in top level football are totally inept and close to being untrustworthy.

 

 

VAR can check it as it's a red card offence isn't it? 

[Fox92]

13 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

“The big six are a myth” 

 

Despite a collective dreadful season 5/6 finish in the top six and the one that finishes outside wins the FA cup. 😂

Also people moan they don't take the cup competitions seriously but it's always usually one of them that wins either trophy.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

56 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Also people moan they don't take the cup competitions seriously but it's always usually one of them that wins either trophy.

 

Probably says more about their squad depth than them taking it seriously mate. These clubs have ressies better than most sides in the country.

[Nick]

27 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Probably says more about their squad depth than them taking it seriously mate. These clubs have ressies better than most sides in the country.

 

Yep - Chelsea’s bench last night was obscene! Never mind the players coming that’ll add or drop down to their bench next season.

 

[Fox92]

47 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Probably says more about their squad depth than them taking it seriously mate. These clubs have ressies better than most sides in the country.

That's true. There's really only Liverpool that actually chuck young players out. Man City's "second string" could consist of Foden, Mahrez, Gabriel Jesus etc. I mean, fair to Pep, he usually does go strong in every competition.

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

 

VAR can check it as it's a red card offence isn't it? 

Potentially given the circumstances...... so I guess they did have a look and saw it was on the line as confirmed by the commentators who could see a replay.

[StanSP]

5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Potentially given the circumstances...... so I guess they did have a look and saw it was on the line as confirmed by the commentators who could see a replay.

Looked out to me here

 

[peach0000]

26 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Potentially given the circumstances...... so I guess they did have a look and saw it was on the line as confirmed by the commentators who could see a replay.

They showed it in the post match analysis and it was very clearly on the line. 

 

20 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Looked out to me here

 

Why when someone is trying to prove VAR wrong are the pictures always of such dodgy quality. Why not use the quality 4k video which is available? If you have a point it'll show it without any doubts. 

[st albans fox]

33 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Looked out to me here

 

That really doesn’t look photo shopped !!!

[StanSP]

32 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

They showed it in the post match analysis and it was very clearly on the line. 

 

Why when someone is trying to prove VAR wrong are the pictures always of such dodgy quality. Why not use the quality 4k video which is available? If you have a point it'll show it without any doubts. 

Cos I don't have that available? And maybe the person who's done this image didn't either

 

[peach0000]

11 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Cos I don't have that available? And maybe the person who's done this image didn't either

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000ljgd/the-fa-cup-201920-final-arsenal-v-chelsea go to 3:26:35 will clear it up hopefully

[twister]

it looked clear as day as outside the box on first viewing,the replay makes it seem a lot closer maybe inside.

 

after the ajax chelsea cock up earlier in the year with the var, I am at a point i don't trust camera angles at all at this point.

 

In general though referring standards have dropped off a cliff this year, we have shocking refs in this country.

 

[Guest ttfn]

Looking at the next year’s calendar we will be playing every single midweek except two (one of which is an international break) between Saturday 17 October and Wednesday 21 January. Obviously this is extended if we go past the Group stages of the Europa League and into the latter stages of the FA Cup.

That’s 25 games (plus an international triple header) in 14 weeks. Our busiest equivalent spell this season had 20 games in a 14 week period. Given how much we struggled in the season just gone once the intensity of the fixture list picked up and how thin our squad looks at the best of times, we are going to need a lot of new players.

 

[copunk]

Really think Bournemouth is a perfect set up for Nige

A club who give managers time, he loves a project

[Manwell Pablo]

20 hours ago, Yes said:

I do think our catchment area is underrated most Leicestershire towns are majority Leicester supporters, you might get glory supporters but you get them everywhere. 

I think it’s got better.

 

Youll still get plenty of Forest and Derby fans in Loughborough and norther area’s of Charnwood. Ashby  and surrounding area is definitely more Derby followed by Leicester then Forest. Plenty of Villa fans in Hinckley, used to be a fair few Cov but they are a dying bread.

 

Coalville Mowbray and Harborough are pretty much Leicester 

[jmono84]

Didn’t know where to put this but I just watched all of the Man U penos this season on the Snapchat skysports feed. It was shocking they got so many decisions in their favour. Probs only see 1-2 stone wallers!

[Yes]

6 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

I think it’s got better.

 

Youll still get plenty of Forest and Derby fans in Loughborough and norther area’s of Charnwood. Ashby  and surrounding area is definitely more Derby followed by Leicester then Forest. Plenty of Villa fans in Hinckley, used to be a fair few Cov but they are a dying bread.

 

Coalville Mowbray and Harborough are pretty much Leicester 

Agreed but while I’m just guessing I think there was a generation that was lost to those clubs in a sense, all 3 teams you mentioned there had big success around the same sort of time 70s and 80s, can’t speak for all those towns but I imagine younger fans coming through will be mostly Leicester, glory supporters excluded. 
 

 

[brucey]

 

 

[Footballwipe]

 

On 02/08/2020 at 12:16, twister said:

it looked clear as day as outside the box on first viewing,the replay makes it seem a lot closer maybe inside.

 

after the ajax chelsea cock up earlier in the year with the var, I am at a point i don't trust camera angles at all at this point.

 

In general though referring standards have dropped off a cliff this year, we have shocking refs in this country.

 

Can I ask, and I do this with all sincerity, when were referring standards in this country high? When was the peak era?

 

All my football-watching life all I've ever seen, heard, read is people scathing about any referee. Even the peak ones from each era (Ellary, Webb, Clattenburg, Poll) ask a set of people and there will be (usually tribal, admittedly) people laying into them for being crap. And these were the supposed "best."

 

Is there actually a period when our referees were good? When people looked at who the ref was and people said "ah this will be reffed fairly" rather than "well we've lost this one he hates us/is shit/is weak."

 

There's a massive argument about how football tribalism, especially online, is skewing this perception, there's the conversation about how VAR could cause a knock-on lowering in quality with an over reliance. Genuinely, though, would like to know when people think we had "high refereeing standards."

[CosbehFox]

39 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I don’t think refereeing was that bad 10 years ago. You had a couple of really controversial moments every season, but not at least a couple every week like it has been the past 12 months. 

Which co-incides with when the media (and particular in the aftermath of televised games) concentrated on referee errors. 

 

When replays were scarce and from the same angle, there was no over analysis. I am certain if we didn't have all the replays and angles, we wouldn't be bemoaning referee standings. 

 

I am not targeting this at you, just against this argument which personally I find boring. 

[CosbehFox]

Just now, pmcla26 said:

I do stand by my original point tho that refs were a lot more competent 10 years ago than now. Had VAR been used then I doubt we’d have anywhere near the amount of problems we’ve had, only have to look at how VAR was used in the 2018 World Cup or in MLS to show that not all officials are brain dead. 

 

https://www.goal.com/en/news/1863/world-cup-2010/2010/07/12/2022121/world-cup-2010-comment-did-refereeing-in-south-africa-set-a

 

Article about refereeing standards at the World Cup 2010. Same article goes into how poor it was in 2006 and 2002. 

[Raw Dykes]

32 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

 

https://www.goal.com/en/news/1863/world-cup-2010/2010/07/12/2022121/world-cup-2010-comment-did-refereeing-in-south-africa-set-a

 

Article about refereeing standards at the World Cup 2010. Same article goes into how poor it was in 2006 and 2002. 

South Korea v Italy in the last 16 of the 2002 World Cup was the most blatantly fixed match I have ever seen. Couldn't believe what I was seeing.

[foxes_rule1978]

12 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said:

South Korea v Italy in the last 16 of the 2002 World Cup was the most blatantly fixed match I have ever seen. Couldn't believe what I was seeing.

The QF with Spain was just as bad if not worse