coolhandfox Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 8 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Youri is a great player but he lacks pace from a standing start he cannot develop that - it’s the way he’s made! for that reason, I dont t see him being a regular starter in an elite side. if he wants a move to a top ten euro outfit then that’s his decision but he won’t play as often as he wants to take it you never watch T Kroos play for Real Madrid then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duquesne Whistle Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Youri is a great player but he lacks pace from a standing start he cannot develop that - it’s the way he’s made! for that reason, I dont t see him being a regular starter in an elite side. if he wants a move to a top ten euro outfit then that’s his decision but he won’t play as often as he wants to Whilst I sort of agree, there's been plenty of great midfielders who've played regularly for elite clubs without being blessed with great pace, whether from a standing start, or just in general. It just depends how much they develop every other aspect of their game doesn't it? Granted, it's getting more difficult if you have even the merest deficiency, as players fitness and longevity improve with modern training methods, diets, recovery information and more, but there's always room for an craftsman like Tielemans isn't there, even amongst the elite clubs? I don't want him to leave, but I think he could hold his own. I think he needs at least one more season with a club like us yet though, possibly two, but I think he can make that step up. His vision alone suggests it. Edited 22 May 2021 by Duquesne Whistle Missing S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chocolate Teapot Posted 22 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 22 May 2021 14 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Youri is a great player but he lacks pace from a standing start he cannot develop that - it’s the way he’s made! for that reason, I dont t see him being a regular starter in an elite side. if he wants a move to a top ten euro outfit then that’s his decision but he won’t play as often as he wants to What....like Belgium? The number 1 ranked side in the world where he starts regularly.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: take it you never watch T Kroos play for Real Madrid then You make a good point but I think the game is moving on. I’m merely giving my POV that youri lacks something that is becoming ever more important ... pace over the first five yards. Perhaps in a really top side he won’t be pressed as much as he can be here which alleviates the issue a bit but when the biggest games are played (think PSG v Bayern a few weeks ago), that quick off the mark movement is so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said: What....like Belgium? The number 1 ranked side in the world where he starts regularly.... as opposed to who ? Praet ?? He doesn’t have a lot of competition in that area ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: as opposed to who ? Praet ?? He doesn’t have a lot of competition in that area ........ You said you cannot see him being a regular starter in an elite side .... my point was he already is. You can debate competition in the Belgium squad all you like to try and avoid the absolute honking opinion you had in the first place but there's several examples of players without pace in elite sides - gundogan, kroos, kimmich, to name but a few. For his position it's not necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said: You said you cannot see him being a regular starter in an elite side .... my point was he already is. You can debate competition in the Belgium squad all you like to try and avoid the absolute honking opinion you had in the first place but there's several examples of players without pace in elite sides - gundogan, kroos, kimmich, to name but a few. For his position it's not necessary. International football isn’t the same - you can’t transfer players in. We can revisit this in half a dozen years when he’s reached his ceiling in a top side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 Just now, st albans fox said: International football isn’t the same - you can’t transfer players in. We can revisit this in half a dozen years when he’s reached his ceiling in a top side. Whether or not he does, your point that a midfielder needs pace to be a regular starter in an elite side is, provably, nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 Just now, Guest said: Whether or not he does, your point that a midfielder needs pace to be a regular starter in an elite side is, provably, nonsense To clarify again - I’m speaking specifically about the first five yards. it really matters. If YT had that then I guess he wouldn’t be playing for us ......we will see how he gets on at a huge club in a year or two ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 May 2021 Share Posted 22 May 2021 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: To clarify again - I’m speaking specifically about the first five yards. it really matters. If YT had that then I guess he wouldn’t be playing for us ......we will see how he gets on at a huge club in a year or two ...... It's not that it wasn't clear, just that it isn't true.................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabyboy Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 2 hours ago, st albans fox said: Youri is a great player but he lacks pace from a standing start he cannot develop that - it’s the way he’s made! for that reason, I dont t see him being a regular starter in an elite side. if he wants a move to a top ten euro outfit then that’s his decision but he won’t play as often as he wants to He doesn't need to have that.. just like KDB does not either. What he does have is an engine to move the ball from defence through to attack, a good range of shooting, ability to make blind passes, an understanding of players around him, graft to support the defence and he can take corners that gets past the first man. He is, in Belgium's eyes the next KDB. If we have him here next year, we should count ourselves lucky. He is our Paul Scholes, our bastard child of Muzzy Izzet and Neil Lennon. If there's one thing he can improve, it's his timing of some tackles, but that is small beer compared to what he brings to the side. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCiudad Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 Not in any new kit promotional photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhYesNdidi Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 1 minute ago, LaCiudad said: Not in any new kit promotional photos Tbf, neither was Mahrez after 15/16 probably just less hassle just incase he does leave which I don’t think he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 2 minutes ago, LaCiudad said: Not in any new kit promotional photos Must be selling half our team with how many players aren’t in the photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambiasso Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 But Chillwell was in our launch last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_fox Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 Wait.... Wait.... Catch me up. Are we having an argument about whether Tielemans is any good? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythyaar Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 11 hours ago, st albans fox said: To clarify again - I’m speaking specifically about the first five yards. it really matters. If YT had that then I guess he wouldn’t be playing for us ......we will see how he gets on at a huge club in a year or two ...... He's already at a huge club 💙🦊🏆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 18 minutes ago, sheffield_fox said: Wait.... Wait.... Catch me up. Are we having an argument about whether Tielemans is any good? There are some braying contrarians gagging to call up down and white black. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_fox Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 11 hours ago, st albans fox said: To clarify again - I’m speaking specifically about the first five yards. it really matters. If YT had that then I guess he wouldn’t be playing for us ......we will see how he gets on at a huge club in a year or two ...... This guy definitely wants rid of Tielemans lads. We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly to Youri round here.... I don't know if you watch the news but he scored quite a big goal for Leicester last week. You're not going to find anyone else criticising him or wishing him away round here. I'd go as far as to say, he's well liked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_fox Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 1 minute ago, foxile5 said: There are some braying contrarians gagging to call up down and white black. Writing this post in my poetry book and claiming it as my own.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 If Barca or Madrid don't want tielemans because he isn't Usain Bolt over 5 yards then that's their problem. He'd absolutley make them better. As he would any side in the world he plays in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, st albans fox said: Youri is a great player but he lacks pace from a standing start he cannot develop that - it’s the way he’s made! for that reason, I dont t see him being a regular starter in an elite side. if he wants a move to a top ten euro outfit then that’s his decision but he won’t play as often as he wants to Kroos, Kimmich, Modric, Pirlo, Iniesta and Xavi are all examples of world class past and present players who play a similar role to Tielemans. None of whom were / are particularly fast but their technical ability and capacity to read the game mean that they are unplayable. YT is the same, he’ll go right to the top. Edited 23 May 2021 by Matt_Lcfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamey Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 2 hours ago, sheffield_fox said: Writing this post in my poetry book and claiming it as my own.... Morrissey will beat you to it!😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 Looked gutted at the end, think he was desperate to play in the CL. He worked do hard this season but let down by other team members and poor tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcell Posted 23 May 2021 Share Posted 23 May 2021 So long friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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