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http://news.sky.com/story/top-english-clubs-in-bombshell-talks-to-join-european-premier-league-12109175 

 

Liverpool and Manchester United are in talks about a bombshell plot involving Europe's biggest football clubs to join a new FIFA-backed tournament that would reshape the sport's global landscape.

Sky News has learnt that financiers are assembling a $6bn (£4.6bn) funding package to assist the creation of what could become known as the European Premier League.

 

More than a dozen teams from England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain are in negotiations about becoming founder members of the competition.

As many as five English clubs could sign up to join it, with a provisional start date said to have been discussed as early as 2022.

Sources said that FIFA, football's world governing body, had been involved in developing the new format, which is expected to comprise up to 18 teams, and involve fixtures played during the regular European season.

 

The top-placed teams in the league would then play in a knockout format to conclude the tournament, with prize money for the winners expected to be worth hundreds of millions of pounds each year. One football industry figure said that a formal announcement about the plans was possible as soon as the end of this month, although on Tuesday a number of key details - including the full list of participating clubs - had yet to be finalised and the plans could still fall apart.

 

The source described it as "potentially the most important development in world club football for decades".

According to insiders, a handful of English sides have been approached about joining the league, with the other candidates comprising Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur.

It is not thought that any of the English clubs has yet signed legally binding terms to join, and it was unclear which member of the so-called "big six" would miss out if only five are ultimately involved.

The news will drop a fresh bombshell into the fracturing landscape of English football, which has spent recent weeks at loggerheads over proposals - engineered by Liverpool and Manchester United - to hand more power to the biggest clubs while providing a coronavirus bailout for teams below the top flight.

A blueprint, dubbed Project Big Picture, would have seen the Premier League reduced in size from 20 to 18 clubs, reducing the number of domestic top-flight fixtures each season.

The plan, denounced as "a backroom deal" by government ministers, was rapidly abandoned last week.

If the latest plans bear fruit, they would effectively constitute the European super league that has been subject to on-off discussions for many years.

The giant Wall Street bank JP Morgan is in talks to provide $6bn (£4.6bn) of debt financing to help launch the European Premier League, with the proceeds repayable from future broadcast income generated by the tournament, according to a football executive.

 
*EDIT* This parts interesting 
 

As part of that blueprint, the founder clubs could not be relegated for 20 years, although the remaining teams would be subject to being replaced depending upon their league position at the end of each season.

A version of those rules is expected to form part of the new league, according to insiders, with a possible cap on agents' fees also said to have been one of the ideas under discussion.

 
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2 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Let it happen. Let the "big" English clubs leave, but make them start again at the bottom of our pyramid in a few years time when the whole thing fails and they beg to come back

If the discussions are successfully concluded, the European Premier League would effectively usurp UEFA's Champions League competition, which has been a mainstay of the continent's football calendar for decades.

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The worry (I say worry as if them lot buggered off I wouldn't care) with this is that it's FIFA sanctioned. UEFA and FIFA are in a power dispute and it's becoming more and more obvious that UEFA are losing.  The threat of "super league" has always been an empty threat as who would sanction it?  UEFA already have the UCL and I can now see FIFA wanting in on this action.  Since Blatter and co queered the pitch, FIFA have been desperate for a new cash cow and it seems the time is now.  Can see this happening sooner rather than later as those domestic clubs want this to happen.  They don't give a rats about "big picture", they want to go alone and have control of their own revenues.

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From reading that, it’s an upgrade on champions league. The “unfair” part is that the founder members get to stay in for 20 years regardless of their domestic league position. 
 

It sounds like they want to avoid games against Olympiakos and Zenit for example and ensure every game in Europe’s elite tournament is a “big” game. It seems this is more so an attempt to exclude the lesser leagues in Europe rather then the smaller clubs of the big leagues. 
 

That isn’t a bad thing. There are leagues where the “champions” continually qualify but don’t make a dent. Get a large sum for failure and that sets them apart from the rest in the their league. Celtic, Greek league, Austrian etc. All have these problems. 
 

The other question is, will their be a restriction on teams that can qualify from each nation and if so, 5 seems like we may have already hit the limit for England. 
 

If JP Morgan have gone down the line to consider lending, this is very advanced.

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18 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Let it happen. Let the "big" English clubs leave, but make them start again at the bottom of our pyramid in a few years time when the whole thing fails and they beg to come back

And on top of this, I'd hope that the Football Associations affected will ban anyone playing in the league from representing their National Team

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Change is inevitable. Let them go and let it be.......... But tax the living sxxt out of them. Make the foreigners pay for the privilege of playing in England and stealing the reputations of the once honorable clubs. Its your society, government, and legal system. Or is it just bought and paid for like mine. The choice is yours.

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8 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

The worry (I say worry as if them lot buggered off I wouldn't care) with this is that it's FIFA sanctioned. UEFA and FIFA are in a power dispute and it's becoming more and more obvious that UEFA are losing.  The threat of "super league" has always been an empty threat as who would sanction it?  UEFA already have the UCL and I can now see FIFA wanting in on this action.  Since Blatter and co queered the pitch, FIFA have been desperate for a new cash cow and it seems the time is now.  Can see this happening sooner rather than later as those domestic clubs want this to happen.  They don't give a rats about "big picture", they want to go alone and have control of their own revenues.

Think it might have more to do with Brexit.

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This boils down to the premier league and how much money it earns .
Letting little teams in England build small  empires and upsetting the old European order... 

Old money snobbery.

These talks started after premier league teams had 4 teams in European finals .

All about the money .

 

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1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

It will replace the UCL, read the article!

I wonder if UEFA saw this coming when they came up with the third European Competition that's being introduced next season? Assuming that the Europa League and the "Conference League" or whatever it's called will still take place? The Europa League will become the Flagship UEFA club competition and we will still have 2 European competitions

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