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The "do they mean us?" thread pt 3

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3 hours ago, daddylonglegs said:

 

These two sound exactly like 90% of the national press last year telling us we're too good to go down. Talk about us like we're going to win the league at a canter. 


They also said KDH will be POTY and 'how he's not a PL player is laughable'. Just to prepare you!

I’ve written this pod off as just in it for engagement and numbers. Not the Top 20 is a lot better 

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28 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

I’ve written this pod off as just in it for engagement and numbers. Not the Top 20 is a lot better 

Is this the pod who do clickbait posts I see come up on my feed with posts like "we've ranked the clubs in 'massive' 'big' 'tiny'" and also ranked the managers just to start arguments and increase shares?

 

So unoriginal

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22 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Is this the pod who do clickbait posts I see come up on my feed with posts like "we've ranked the clubs in 'massive' 'big' 'tiny'" and also ranked the managers just to start arguments and increase shares?

 

So unoriginal

Yeah, an Ipswich and a Derby fan. Despite them both supporting clubs in third tier last season, they kept doing a pod about the second tier. Their twitter is low-hanging retweet feed. 

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4 hours ago, davieG said:

Our new mantra should be Too good to get promoted.

We were too good to get promoted
Now what more can I say?
Too good to get promoted
No we're never gonna win away
 
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3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

What have they ever done to you?

I once traveled to Portman Road, and watched us get beat 6-1. 

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https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/enzo-marescas-uncompromising-reply-shows-8660913

 

Enzo Maresca's uncompromising reply shows Leicester City future with double transfer need clear
Analysis of Leicester City's opening game of the new season, looking at the performance in Enzo Maresca's first game, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, the new signings and more


ByJordan Blackwell
07:00, 8 AUG 2023

Had Leicester City fans imagined a perfect start to life back in the Championship, they may have pictured a last-gasp winner against a local rival scored by a player from their academy.

Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall’s 87th-minute strike – the latest winning goal City have scored in front of their home fans for three-and-a-half years – brought joyful scenes to the King Power Stadium and sent their new boss into ecstasy on the touchline.

Enzo Maresca afforded himself five seconds of wild celebration before returning to neutral. There was a game to manage after all, and still 12 minutes of it, given the new guidance on added time.

He was level-headed in his post-match press conference too. His focus was on the lessons to be learned; he was not about to get carried away with one victory. Asked to relive his emotions of that late winner, he said: “The feeling was unbelievable. But analysing the game…”


Because while the ending may have been perfect, the performance was not. This was a game City could have lost, and one they very nearly did lose.

In the first 25 minutes of the second half, City were ropey, and that’s putting it politely. They conceded from a corner, and were ragged defensively as Coventry countered with speed. Matty Godden twice forced Mads Hermansen into good saves, Ellis Simms should have forced him into a couple more. Only a superb fingertip stop from the Dane prevented Haji Wright scoring a late winner moments before Dewsbury-Hall did.

It was not as if these moments were interspersed with promising City attacks. There were no chances for Maresca’s side early in the second half, City lacking a cutting edge to break through the visitors. Short of ideas, the ball was moved slowly. Just 60 minutes into Maresca’s first competitive match, there was audible frustration from the crowd.

The manager looked to crack down on those groans in his post-match press conference. He made it clear that he's not going to compromise on his philosophy. The fans "need to understand" that this is how it's going to be while he's in charge.

Or at least, it's how it will be while the team are still adjusting and learning. City completed 88 per cent of their passes on Sunday, a figure only bettered by Southampton, but eight teams made more passes into the final third than Maresca’s men. City only managed three more passes into the final third than Coventry did, despite a 65-35 split of the possession.

In the end, City had to rely on their Premier League quality. Because of the ability of players still in their squad, there will be games where City can be bailed out by individual moments of brilliance. That’s handy for Maresca, but not what he wants. He will want City to win by being a team.

 

And there were signs of that. The first half was controlled, and while there were a limited number of chances, City barely gave Coventry a sniff at the other end.

The first Dewsbury-Hall goal in particular felt like a product of Maresca’s work over the past five weeks, including the build-up out of defence, the patience shown by Stephy Mavididi to wait for the right pass, and then a midfielder following instructions to race into the box, leap up and score. It felt like a goal that would not have been seen last season.

Another positive emerged post-match, when Mark Robins revealed that he had reluctantly substituted Gus Hamer and Kasey Palmer because City’s passing and moving had worn both of them out. They left the field when the Sky Blues were still 1-0 up.

That may have contributed to City coming on strong late on. In the league, City had conceded five winners after the 85-minute mark since they last scored one, a brittle mentality becoming a theme of the side over the past couple of years. Maybe Maresca is changing that.

 

It will probably take a few months before there can be a definitive assessment over whether Maresca’s City are good enough to earn promotion, their ultimate goal this season no matter how the Italian plays down the pressure. The mix of positives and negatives from the opening match means not even the most cocksure pundit can confidently declare where they will finish. All that is known for now is that they are three points closer to where they want to be.


Dewsbury-Hall was one of two players in the City line-up on Sunday who had started their final Premier League match, and he seems in a hurry to get them back to the top flight. It wasn’t just that he scored two goals, matching his tally from the whole of last season, but he had eight shots too, more than any other player in the Championship on the opening weekend, and double the amount he’s ever had in a City game before.

After the game, clutching his man-of-the-match award, he said in the mixed zone that he wanted to be the best player in the Championship. He did not say it with a look of hopefulness, but one of determination.

Last season was difficult for Dewsbury-Hall. His energy and stamina had made him a big hit when he first broke into the team, but once that was a given, there was greater scrutiny over his quality on the ball, and he could be found lacking.

But two years in the Premier League should set him up to be a contender for the Championship’s top individual prize. Having become accustomed to the minimal time and space afforded to midfielders in the Premier League, he should find it easier to make an impact now he gets more of both in the Championship.

In fact, in the first half, it was as if he had too much space to work with. He was able to run into gaps he never would have been able to in the Premier League – he led the league for progressive carries on the opening weekend – and seemed to get caught in two minds over who to target for the final pass. In the Championship, he doesn’t have to work on instinct.

If he learns to make better use of the time he now has on the ball and pulls off a few more of those through balls into the box, with his relentless work-rate, strong ball-carrying, and Maresca-inspired flurry of shots, there shouldn’t be many doubts that he’s capable of being the division’s star man.

 

New quartet make impact on debuts
Standing alongside Dewsbury-Hall as City’s best performers were the new signings, a positive for Maresca and the recruitment team. Hermansen, having received the big billing for his ability with his feet, pulled off a series of strong saves and then one superb one, his performance as crucial to earning three points as Dewsbury-Hall’s was.

Callum Doyle was good in the air, pinged a few crossfield passes and wasn’t shy in helping out the attack – and he didn’t even have one of his better games according to former boss Robins. Harry Winks was the best player on the pitch in the first half and finished the match with 14 progressive passes, the third-highest tally in the division.


And Mavididi, while making a slow start and showing a lack of awareness defensively, grew into the game, and played a key role in both goals. He completed four take-ons in total, and while that may not sound like many, it’s two more than Harvey Barnes managed in any game last season.

They are different players. Barnes is pure speed, running in behind and finishing. Mavididi perhaps has a few more tricks up his sleeve to beat defenders in a one-on-one. That will be important if City ever find themselves trailing and facing a deep-set defence again, as they did on Sunday.

Need for new duo remains obvious
But more signings are needed, clearly. While Maresca’s attempts to convert Wilfred Ndidi into an attacking midfielder are valiant, and while there were promising signs in pre-season, the Nigerian’s performance on Sunday will have left supporters feeling the manager’s plan is a tad optimistic. Dennis Praet made a significant difference when he was brought on, and hopefully Cesare Casadei, should he sign on loan from Chelsea, will make an even greater one.

On the right wing, Kasey McAteer played with endeavour and did well to find space – he received more progressive passes than any other player on the pitch – but he’s inexperienced and the final ball was missing. He can be an option this season, but perhaps not a starter. Jesurun Rak-Sakyi on loan from Crystal Palace would be an ideal candidate for the role.

Aggressive set-up may help set-piece problem
Semper Eadem, Latin for ‘ever the same’, is the city’s motto and the words that graced the banner at the bottom of the Kop before kick-off. It was apt then that the first goal City conceded of the new season was from a corner.

City have improved slightly from the days where headed clearances from opposition corners were met with sarcastic cheers from their own fans, but only slightly. It is still a concern, and one that Maresca is aware of. To be fair, everybody in football is aware of it.

The manager said it’s something they’re working on, and it does feel like the set-up is more aggressive. No longer are there two men on the posts, nor is the goalkeeper rooted to his line, Hermansen standing towards the edge of his six-yard box. But that did leave space for Kyle McFadzean to sneak around the blind side of the Dane, running along the goal-line before flicking in.

In fairness, there was not too much danger from Coventry’s seven other corners, but if Maresca wants to avoid sarcastic cheers later in the season, he needs to keep working on finding a foolproof solution.

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9 minutes ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/enzo-marescas-uncompromising-reply-shows-8660913

 

Enzo Maresca's uncompromising reply shows Leicester City future with double transfer need clear
Analysis of Leicester City's opening game of the new season, looking at the performance in Enzo Maresca's first game, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, the new signings and more


ByJordan Blackwell
07:00, 8 AUG 2023

Had Leicester City fans imagined a perfect start to life back in the Championship, they may have pictured a last-gasp winner against a local rival scored by a player from their academy.

Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall’s 87th-minute strike – the latest winning goal City have scored in front of their home fans for three-and-a-half years – brought joyful scenes to the King Power Stadium and sent their new boss into ecstasy on the touchline.

Enzo Maresca afforded himself five seconds of wild celebration before returning to neutral. There was a game to manage after all, and still 12 minutes of it, given the new guidance on added time.

He was level-headed in his post-match press conference too. His focus was on the lessons to be learned; he was not about to get carried away with one victory. Asked to relive his emotions of that late winner, he said: “The feeling was unbelievable. But analysing the game…”


Because while the ending may have been perfect, the performance was not. This was a game City could have lost, and one they very nearly did lose.

In the first 25 minutes of the second half, City were ropey, and that’s putting it politely. They conceded from a corner, and were ragged defensively as Coventry countered with speed. Matty Godden twice forced Mads Hermansen into good saves, Ellis Simms should have forced him into a couple more. Only a superb fingertip stop from the Dane prevented Haji Wright scoring a late winner moments before Dewsbury-Hall did.

It was not as if these moments were interspersed with promising City attacks. There were no chances for Maresca’s side early in the second half, City lacking a cutting edge to break through the visitors. Short of ideas, the ball was moved slowly. Just 60 minutes into Maresca’s first competitive match, there was audible frustration from the crowd.

The manager looked to crack down on those groans in his post-match press conference. He made it clear that he's not going to compromise on his philosophy. The fans "need to understand" that this is how it's going to be while he's in charge.

Or at least, it's how it will be while the team are still adjusting and learning. City completed 88 per cent of their passes on Sunday, a figure only bettered by Southampton, but eight teams made more passes into the final third than Maresca’s men. City only managed three more passes into the final third than Coventry did, despite a 65-35 split of the possession.

In the end, City had to rely on their Premier League quality. Because of the ability of players still in their squad, there will be games where City can be bailed out by individual moments of brilliance. That’s handy for Maresca, but not what he wants. He will want City to win by being a team.

 

And there were signs of that. The first half was controlled, and while there were a limited number of chances, City barely gave Coventry a sniff at the other end.

The first Dewsbury-Hall goal in particular felt like a product of Maresca’s work over the past five weeks, including the build-up out of defence, the patience shown by Stephy Mavididi to wait for the right pass, and then a midfielder following instructions to race into the box, leap up and score. It felt like a goal that would not have been seen last season.

Another positive emerged post-match, when Mark Robins revealed that he had reluctantly substituted Gus Hamer and Kasey Palmer because City’s passing and moving had worn both of them out. They left the field when the Sky Blues were still 1-0 up.

That may have contributed to City coming on strong late on. In the league, City had conceded five winners after the 85-minute mark since they last scored one, a brittle mentality becoming a theme of the side over the past couple of years. Maybe Maresca is changing that.

 

It will probably take a few months before there can be a definitive assessment over whether Maresca’s City are good enough to earn promotion, their ultimate goal this season no matter how the Italian plays down the pressure. The mix of positives and negatives from the opening match means not even the most cocksure pundit can confidently declare where they will finish. All that is known for now is that they are three points closer to where they want to be.


Dewsbury-Hall was one of two players in the City line-up on Sunday who had started their final Premier League match, and he seems in a hurry to get them back to the top flight. It wasn’t just that he scored two goals, matching his tally from the whole of last season, but he had eight shots too, more than any other player in the Championship on the opening weekend, and double the amount he’s ever had in a City game before.

After the game, clutching his man-of-the-match award, he said in the mixed zone that he wanted to be the best player in the Championship. He did not say it with a look of hopefulness, but one of determination.

Last season was difficult for Dewsbury-Hall. His energy and stamina had made him a big hit when he first broke into the team, but once that was a given, there was greater scrutiny over his quality on the ball, and he could be found lacking.

But two years in the Premier League should set him up to be a contender for the Championship’s top individual prize. Having become accustomed to the minimal time and space afforded to midfielders in the Premier League, he should find it easier to make an impact now he gets more of both in the Championship.

In fact, in the first half, it was as if he had too much space to work with. He was able to run into gaps he never would have been able to in the Premier League – he led the league for progressive carries on the opening weekend – and seemed to get caught in two minds over who to target for the final pass. In the Championship, he doesn’t have to work on instinct.

If he learns to make better use of the time he now has on the ball and pulls off a few more of those through balls into the box, with his relentless work-rate, strong ball-carrying, and Maresca-inspired flurry of shots, there shouldn’t be many doubts that he’s capable of being the division’s star man.

 

New quartet make impact on debuts
Standing alongside Dewsbury-Hall as City’s best performers were the new signings, a positive for Maresca and the recruitment team. Hermansen, having received the big billing for his ability with his feet, pulled off a series of strong saves and then one superb one, his performance as crucial to earning three points as Dewsbury-Hall’s was.

Callum Doyle was good in the air, pinged a few crossfield passes and wasn’t shy in helping out the attack – and he didn’t even have one of his better games according to former boss Robins. Harry Winks was the best player on the pitch in the first half and finished the match with 14 progressive passes, the third-highest tally in the division.


And Mavididi, while making a slow start and showing a lack of awareness defensively, grew into the game, and played a key role in both goals. He completed four take-ons in total, and while that may not sound like many, it’s two more than Harvey Barnes managed in any game last season.

They are different players. Barnes is pure speed, running in behind and finishing. Mavididi perhaps has a few more tricks up his sleeve to beat defenders in a one-on-one. That will be important if City ever find themselves trailing and facing a deep-set defence again, as they did on Sunday.

Need for new duo remains obvious
But more signings are needed, clearly. While Maresca’s attempts to convert Wilfred Ndidi into an attacking midfielder are valiant, and while there were promising signs in pre-season, the Nigerian’s performance on Sunday will have left supporters feeling the manager’s plan is a tad optimistic. Dennis Praet made a significant difference when he was brought on, and hopefully Cesare Casadei, should he sign on loan from Chelsea, will make an even greater one.

On the right wing, Kasey McAteer played with endeavour and did well to find space – he received more progressive passes than any other player on the pitch – but he’s inexperienced and the final ball was missing. He can be an option this season, but perhaps not a starter. Jesurun Rak-Sakyi on loan from Crystal Palace would be an ideal candidate for the role.

Aggressive set-up may help set-piece problem
Semper Eadem, Latin for ‘ever the same’, is the city’s motto and the words that graced the banner at the bottom of the Kop before kick-off. It was apt then that the first goal City conceded of the new season was from a corner.

City have improved slightly from the days where headed clearances from opposition corners were met with sarcastic cheers from their own fans, but only slightly. It is still a concern, and one that Maresca is aware of. To be fair, everybody in football is aware of it.

The manager said it’s something they’re working on, and it does feel like the set-up is more aggressive. No longer are there two men on the posts, nor is the goalkeeper rooted to his line, Hermansen standing towards the edge of his six-yard box. But that did leave space for Kyle McFadzean to sneak around the blind side of the Dane, running along the goal-line before flicking in.

In fairness, there was not too much danger from Coventry’s seven other corners, but if Maresca wants to avoid sarcastic cheers later in the season, he needs to keep working on finding a foolproof solution.

Well written. Must have a new editor

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1 hour ago, Gamble92 said:

Well written. Must have a new editor

He’s been their main LCFC reporter for a while. Problem comes when others try to do it. 

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2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

There was a lot of Forest last weekend getting ever so touchy over Cov getting our attention.

Yeah they loved to keep reminding us how they don't care on loads of online and social media threads. Who'd have thought it eh 🤔🤣👍

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21 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

Can we turn this thread back into a showcase of deluded comments from rival fan forums?

I imagine whatever MS-DOS era pit Cov fans inhabit is a goldmine right now. 


The match thread, at least, seems actually quite tame. Overall feeling seemed to be "oh well, annoyed as we should've taken our chances, but we didn't expect to win this one". 

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/️-leicester-city-vs-coventry-city-match-thread-sunday-6th-aug.151989/

 

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4 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

There was a lot of Forest last weekend getting ever so touchy over Cov getting our attention.

They were crawling all over any post about us and Cov, they can’t stand it that Cov actually consider us a rival they’re desperate for no one to care about us it’s so weird lol

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