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The "do they mean us?" thread pt 3

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25 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Not so much in the Premier League era. Currently sitting at 13th most successful.

Only Norwich (6) and WBA (5) have been relegated from the PL more than we have (4). Only Grimsby (32), Notts County (30), Cardiff (26) Birmingham (24) and Bolton (23) have had more total promotions/relegations than us (22). Sure, we had a good run from 2014-23, and I don't expect our fans to like it, but I don't know why they get so precious about being labelled a yo-yo club when that is practically what we have been for the majority of our history.

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3 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/alan-smith-cites-leeds-united-advantage-over-leicester-city-and-southampton-with-whites-if-4217246

 

Ex-Arsenal and Leicester City star Alan Smith says Leeds United have an ‘advantage’ over the Championship’s two other promotion favourites but with a Whites ‘if’.
Lee Sobot
By Lee Sobot
Published 13th Jul 2023, 10:45 BST- 2 min read

Former England international striker Smith’s eight years at Arsenal were preceded by five years with Leicester who are facing up to second tier football next season following relegation along with Leeds and Southampton.

The relegated trio are the first three teams in the betting for next season’s Championship title for which Leicester are clear 9-2 favourites under new boss Enzo Maresca despite the departure of James Maddison to Tottenham Hotspur and likely exit of Harvey
Smith, though, feels that joint second favourites Leeds have a big ‘advantage’ in the shape of the “intimidating atmosphere” at Elland Road, if new boss Daniel Farke can get the Whites off to an all important decent start.


Speaking in an interview with Gambling Zone, Smith was asked which team out of relegated trio Leeds, Leicester and Southampton had the best chance of returning to the top flight at the first attempt.

"I would like to say Leicester as they are my old team, but they've lost a few good players,” said Smith. "Maddison's gone and it looks like Harvey Barnes will go. I was reading that the new manager, Maresca, wants to switch to more of a possession-based game, where Leicester have always been a counter-attacking side with Vardy looking to get onto things. Vardy is 36 now. Can he keep going in the rough and tumble of The Championship?

“Leeds have just appointed Daniel Farke. He knows The Championship well from his time with Norwich, but he is another new manager, and we’re not sure how well and how quickly he will settle into the hot seat at Leeds.

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"I would say that Leeds have got a slight advantage over Leicester and Southampton because Elland Road is such an intimidating atmosphere – nobody will want to go there, which is something you can’t say about the other two relegated clubs.

“If Daniel Farke can get things together and Leeds can get off to a fast start, that momentum can carry you through the first few months of the season. He’s joined the club quite late, so he’s going to have act quickly in regard to making signings and selling players.”

Smith added: “I hope Leicester can bounce back. Leicester has always been that yo-yo club historically. In recent years the club has achieved some incredible things, winning the title and FA Cup, but when I played for them, they were always up and down. Hopefully they can return to the Premier League next season.”

That's poor - he was my favourite player as a kid - but shameful that he still thinks we're a counter attacking side!

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9 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

That's poor - he was my favourite player as a kid - but shameful that he still thinks we're a counter attacking side!

He's always been an awful pundit. Not the only one, of course. Plenty of former players out there who are utter bungalows, yet making a decent living out of talking nonsense....

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4 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Only Norwich (6) and WBA (5) have been relegated from the PL more than we have (4). Only Grimsby (32), Notts County (30), Cardiff (26) Birmingham (24) and Bolton (23) have had more total promotions/relegations than us (22). Sure, we had a good run from 2014-23, and I don't expect our fans to like it, but I don't know why they get so precious about being labelled a yo-yo club when that is practically what we have been for the majority of our history.

That's the sprit.:unsure:

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8 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Only Norwich (6) and WBA (5) have been relegated from the PL more than we have (4). Only Grimsby (32), Notts County (30), Cardiff (26) Birmingham (24) and Bolton (23) have had more total promotions/relegations than us (22). Sure, we had a good run from 2014-23, and I don't expect our fans to like it, but I don't know why they get so precious about being labelled a yo-yo club when that is practically what we have been for the majority of our history.

We are a compelling watch supported mainly by fans with a Leicester connection.  I am biased , but I believe that if I stepped back there would not have been a better team to support.

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On 13/07/2023 at 14:53, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Only Norwich (6) and WBA (5) have been relegated from the PL more than we have (4). Only Grimsby (32), Notts County (30), Cardiff (26) Birmingham (24) and Bolton (23) have had more total promotions/relegations than us (22). Sure, we had a good run from 2014-23, and I don't expect our fans to like it, but I don't know why they get so precious about being labelled a yo-yo club when that is practically what we have been for the majority of our history.

In a sense we are yes, but aside from those that have been repeatedly relegated from the Premier League in the modern era (Norwich) you rarely hear those clubs get labelled a yo-yo club like we seem to, you also have Man City (21), Sunderland (21), Sheffield Wednesday (18) who have been up and down about as much as we have and in Sunderland and Sheffield Wednesday’s case they’ve spent much more time in the third tier too, but they seem to be above the yo-yo tag we are so often given.

 

And people don’t like it because it just seems to be a tag others give us to try put us back in our place where they think we belong, when you compare how they see us to how they see the above clubs I don’t think that annoyance is that unjustified. 

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16 minutes ago, Bilo said:

FourFourTwo have us winning the league.

 

Mind you, they also had us 8th last season.

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I know its very difficult to predict the championship but Ipswich seem high and Cardiff seem low.

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21 minutes ago, Bilo said:

FourFourTwo have us winning the league.

 

Mind you, they also had us 8th last season.

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People will inevitably take the piss out of this but I think that’s a decent general consensus.

 

Personally reckon Southampton will win it.

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21 minutes ago, Bilo said:

FourFourTwo have us winning the league.

 

Mind you, they also had us 8th last season.

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I haven't took enough notice of the championship in recent seasons to have any idea on where teams might finish this season.

I do know a couple of fans who support championship teams though, and they reckon the championship last season was the poorest they've known.

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7 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

I haven't took enough notice of the championship in recent seasons to have any idea on where teams might finish this season.

I do know a couple of fans who support championship teams though, and they reckon the championship last season was the poorest they've known.

I could very well be wrong, but those who you know, do they happen to support larger teams in the Championship? The year we won the league, and last season with the likes of Brentford, Fulham and Brighton doing well, you had fans of your big clubs saying it’s such a poor league just because their team weren’t hitting the expectations they set. I got a long to a number of championship games last year and bar Rotherham v Bristol City I watched some really good football for the most part. Although it may have been good in comparison to what I was watching with us, so it may have also been not great lol

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34 minutes ago, Bilo said:

FourFourTwo have us winning the league.

 

Mind you, they also had us 8th last season.

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18 minutes ago, Nalis said:

I know its very difficult to predict the championship but Ipswich seem high and Cardiff seem low.

Yeah Ipswich 5th is mad. Not sure where Blackburn's goals come from after losing Brereton. They struggled sometimes with him in the side. 

 

Cardiff have been pretty shit so not surprised they're that low. QPR bottom is a weird one, think they'll be mid-table as they usually go on a good start then just fizzle out and become very average. 

 

Bristol City should be higher. I think they'll score shed loads. 

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6 minutes ago, StanSP said:

 

Yeah Ipswich 5th is mad. Not sure where Blackburn's goals come from after losing Brereton. They struggled sometimes with him in the side. 

 

Cardiff have been pretty shit so not surprised they're that low. QPR bottom is a weird one, think they'll be mid-table as they usually go on a good start then just fizzle out and become very average. 

 

Bristol City should be higher. I think they'll score shed loads. 

Villarreal is a great move for him isn't it! He's got a good strike rate for Chile as well.

 

This made me chuckle with regard to his international career. Did his mum just never tell him that she's Chilean lol

 

 

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16 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

I haven't took enough notice of the championship in recent seasons to have any idea on where teams might finish this season.

I do know a couple of fans who support championship teams though, and they reckon the championship last season was the poorest they've known.

But every 4th fan…throws that statement out The poorest…yakity yak. Worse than DAZ/Persil adverts  telling us over 70yrs and then every new advert…whiter than white,the whitest you will ever see,even more than your last wash…what do the kiwis do as 

being proud of having the name the All Blacks..:giggle:

Been following football since the 50s, knowing there are some poor games every season,

I still can’t remember ever seeing   “ the poorest season”  in either 1st  or 2nd division,now PL or championship…

But then I enjoy football/all sport for what it is, not because I demand expected notions to be realised..And not put any sports daily / seasons routine on a pedestal , I let the click bait media have their journalistic notions,just to make a story and many a fan prefers to be carried on that soap-opera wave.

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3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

 

Yeah Ipswich 5th is mad. Not sure where Blackburn's goals come from after losing Brereton. They struggled sometimes with him in the side. 

 

Cardiff have been pretty shit so not surprised they're that low. QPR bottom is a weird one, think they'll be mid-table as they usually go on a good start then just fizzle out and become very average. 

 

Bristol City should be higher. I think they'll score shed loads. 

My boss is an Ipswich season ticket holder. They are well coached and play good football - but they are very fit. He said last year a lot of games were close for the first half and into the second, but Ipswich ran away in the last 20 minutes as they were fitter. Some of this may have been the opponents worn down chasing the ball, but he saw that as one of the biggest factors that set them apart.

 

You would be disappointed if the teams in the Championship weren't a step up in terms of fitness on League One teams, so if you take away one of Ipswich's key differentiators, they are likely to find the going a lot tougher.

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