Is it our fault. Are we the bad guys

[ThurmastonFox]

Just thinking- have we scared Europe?

[foxinsocks]

the lure of keeping all the money would always encourage a cartel 

[Nalis]

Yes, we broke their system.

[StanSP]

We are definitely not the bad guys even if we did have an influence in the big clubs chasing their greed, making it a given as opposed to an earned success. 

 

We should not be the ones feeling guilty here. We did things with less money and the 'big six' absolutely shat themselves. 

[Dahnsouff]

Its not us, we are an outlier, its fear. Fear of missing out on European lucrative competitions, fear of sharing riches, fear of merit based outcomes.

Some of these complaints are valid though. These clubs bring in the lion's share of the audiences. Finding the way to reconcile the two is the challenge.

[SemperEadem]

Not at all. 

[Zear0]

2 minutes ago, ThurmastonFox said:

Just thinking- have we scared Europe?

Not sure after the Salvia game i'd say we scared Europe.

 

I do agree that our current position and recent result has galvanised the English clubs to hurry this one up.  Spurs are on the decline after, it hurts to say, some consistently good seasons (same as Arsenal but even furtheron a decline).  If they didn't move now, then in several years it'd be even harder to justify this already unjustifiable move as can see them being usurped by several aspiring clubs.

[FerrisBueller]

Not even slightly. If only 4 teams are allowed to win it, what is the point of the whole league system?

[FoxCal]

In part, almost certainly but I’d be amazed if talks about this hadn’t been taking place even prior to that. Our title win will have just hurried them along.

 

It is a concern around Europe, though. Remember a comment being made (maybe by Florentino Perez) back at the start of the season about Roma not qualifying for the Champions League. Something to the affect of ‘Why should they have to deal with the financial consequences of not qualifying one time?’ which is what all of these clubs are afraid of. Laughable then, that they aren’t even involved.

[davieG]

No because they want to guarantee all 6 of them where as now the most they can hope for is 4/5 so they're always risking 1/ 2 or more missing out irrespective of what we've achieved.

[Aus Fox]

This isn’t us, this is Greed - pure greed from some very wealthy and unsavoury characters!! 

The six clubs involved and anyone associated with them should hang their heads in shame! 
Let’s not take any of the blame! It’s pure and utter selfishness and everything that is wrong with the world!

Our win, Wigan’s FA Cup win are the bright spots in an increasingly gloomy world.

[Kilworthfox]

I think Leicester have upset the suits who do not understand competition, coming from their US franchise models. 

 

It isn't just ourselves, Atalanta, Lille, Wolfsburg, Villarreal, Wolves, West Ham, Betis, Sevilla, Frankfurt are all troubling the elite. Amazing work from these clubs, keep it up 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Pretty arrogant tbh  

[HoChiMinhFOX]

I think the likelihood of something of this ilk was always bound to happen with the current progression of football and the elitism shown by the "top" clubs. But can't help feel we're at least one of the contributing straws that broke the proverbial camel's back.

[AKCJ]

I suspect we might have been the tipping point but it was inevitable with or without us winning the league. The opportunity to make more money was always there.

[Dan Gliballs]

We may be a catalyst in it, but if it wasn’t us, it would be some other club(s)

 

History shows that the dominant forces at the head of the top division ebbs and flows over time, go back decades and clubs that have long since dropped off held dominance over today’s ‘big six’, and the simple answer is fear of it happening again.

 

But unlike decades ago, today’s biggest clubs are riddled with debt that would cripple them unless their income from being centre stage is sustained.

 

The answer is greed. We shocked the world of elite football when we won the league, and opened their eyes to the direction things are going, and they don’t like it, they don’t want it.

 

I say it again, if it wasn’t us, it’d be some other club who earned the right to break the established order.

 

And this, above all else is what makes the game so appealing to the people who really finance the game, real football fans.

[StriderHiryu]

We aren't the bad guys, we are the heroes!

 

But I do believe we "broke" football. We showed that anyone could come in and usurp the established heavyweights of the game, and that terrified the money men in positions of power.

 

Such a shame that quite literally the greatest story in football history has led to the most shameless cash grab of all time.

[Golden Fox]

When the Champions League settled into its 4 English teams structure, we had a clear big 4: Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. 

 

Man City spending their way into this, and Spurs being very good paying politics, on the Commercial side with their stadium and on leveraging a couple of UCL campaigns and final are the 2 clubs that really meant 4 spots weren't enough to go round. Not us with the odd entry here and there.

 

We are a big reason quoted about why not to do it. (I think specifically referenced by PSG... even if they share owners with current UCL rights holders) 

[CosbehFox]

I’ve said this before - there’s plenty of ‘provincial’ clubs which have achieved what we have across Europe in the last twenty years. 
 

The difference is now that a lot of clubs have money or American owners who believe in some dim witted fcuking franchise system. They have no respect for the culture across Europe. Sport lives off the underdog dynamic 

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[filbertway]

No it's been a long time coming. The ego on some people

 

[Out Foxed]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Pretty arrogant tbh  

not really. we have the quote from the season after from an unnamed exec saying "we can't have anymore Leicester City's"

[bovril]

This type of development has been on the cards for years, maybe we sped it up but I doubt we were the straw that broke the camel's back. 

[Spudulike]

'We don't want too many Leicester City's'. 

 

The warning was clear. Businesses aim to make money. These grubby individuals have no morals or care for our (not theirs) game. It will eventually crash and burn but they will have bulging bank balances as they ride off into the sunset. 

 

Dark days ahead. 

[Guest SO1]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

This isn’t us, this is Greed - pure greed from some very wealthy and unsavoury characters!! 

The six clubs involved and anyone associated with them should hang their heads in shame! 
Let’s not take any of the blame! It’s pure and utter selfishness and everything that is wrong with the world!

Our win, Wigan’s FA Cup win are the bright spots in an increasingly gloomy world.

They destroyed the world's economy through financializaton and exploitation. They have no concept or understanding of the word shame. Perhaps shame in never having enough for them and more than us.

[urban.spaceman]