moore_94 Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: So would I but the I don't have a hard nosed agent working for me. He might not be a hard nosed agent, the other players on the agents list aren't that good / are of low value Praet is the most valuable player on his list by quite a margin He might also see that it is better for his most valuable player to go to a new club playing every week to possibly garner future interest for another move and protect his International career Edited 29 August 2021 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 Just now, An Sionnach said: So would I but the I don't have a hard nosed agent working for me. .. just tell him you want out!!! He is supposed to be working for you....he maybe losing commission but should be looking to have your best interest at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 1 hour ago, moore_94 said: Not that much of a step down, other than last season Sampdoria and Torino are usually pretty close, mid table sides Torino vs Sampdoria 20/21 - 17th - 9th 19/20 - 16th - 15th 18/19 - 7th (Europa) - 9th 17/18 - 10th - 9th 16/17 - 9th - 10th 15/16 - 12th - 15th True but Torino look fully shit this year with rumours that Belotti could leave still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 1 hour ago, An Sionnach said: So would I but the I don't have a hard nosed agent working for me. The agent works for him. If he wants it and happy to take less the agent has no say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 It is tough taking a dock in pay when you don't have to . How many on here would do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 6 hours ago, Koke said: What's the point in loaning him? He's not 21 years old. You only loan out senior players so you can get rid of their wages, like Slimani and Ghezzal. Either sell Praet and take the loss or keep him. we get a loan fee for doing so and it opens up a place in the 25 man squad without keeping an unhappy player around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: It is tough taking a dock in pay when you don't have to . How many on here would do it? Bit ridiculous trying to compare it to an everyday person taking a paycut. A bit of a paycut he probably wouldn't even actually notice, a paycut for me and I am having to live in the box my washing machine came in. Edited 29 August 2021 by moore_94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 7 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: It is tough taking a dock in pay when you don't have to . How many on here would do it? He could probably actually take a paycut and still have a take home pay not too far off what he gets here. Over here he gets just over 50% of his wages, in Italy I believe he would get closer to 80%. If he is on 75k a week currently his take home pay is about 40k a week, in Italy he could drop his wages to about 50k a week and still come out with about the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 1 hour ago, moore_94 said: Not that much of a step down, other than last season Sampdoria and Torino are usually pretty close, mid table sides Torino vs Sampdoria 20/21 - 17th - 9th 19/20 - 16th - 15th 18/19 - 7th (Europa) - 9th 17/18 - 10th - 9th 16/17 - 9th - 10th 15/16 - 12th - 15th I was gonna say, they've been joined at the hip for years. Both mid table fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 Praet was in turmoil over whether to come here, I think that's how his agent got us to chuff up big. The fact he was wanting to stay at Sampdoria suggests he may well view being happy at a club he's the main man at on only 40k a week compared to double that with us. I'd imagine we'd slip him a couple of million settlement from a £10-15m deal anyway to plug a bit of the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: I was gonna say, they've been joined at the hip for years. Both mid table fodder. I used to dream of being mid table fodder… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: I was gonna say, they've been joined at the hip for years. Both mid table fodder. I used to dream of being mid table fodder… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 3 minutes ago, moore_94 said: He could probably actually take a paycut and still have a take home pay not too far off what he gets here. Over here he gets just over 50% of his wages, in Italy I believe he would get closer to 80%. If he is on 75k a week currently his take home pay is about 40k a week, in Italy he could drop his wages to about 50k a week and still come out with about the same. That might be dooable , be interesting to see what he decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 5 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I was gonna say, they've been joined at the hip for years. Both mid table fodder. They look less likely of retaining that mediocrity and more likely for the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...in this instance I would drop my salary just to get out of this situation!!! Absolutely no love for him by the management, and players now being recruited ahead of him in the pecking order, I would get right out of here!!! 10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Praet was in turmoil over whether to come here, I think that's how his agent got us to chuff up big. The fact he was wanting to stay at Sampdoria suggests he may well view being happy at a club he's the main man at on only 40k a week compared to double that with us. I'd imagine we'd slip him a couple of million settlement from a £10-15m deal anyway to plug a bit of the gap. I’m afraid his agent will be asking us to cover the shortfall in earnings over the remainder of his contract. We want him gone to make space in the squad and to get a few quid in, plus a reduction on the wage bill. It will be a difficult negotiation and I hope we’ve already addressed it rather than waiting for the last 48 hours of the window ….. the tax scenario in Italy could help a little with the negotiations as has been indicated above (If it’s correct) Edited 29 August 2021 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 I would hope discussions have already been had between Dennis and management and not just left although I'm shocked at Brendan's treatment of him when he is supposedly a brilliant man manager. Something has gone seriously wrong here! Credit to Dennis, he hasn't sulked, missed training etc. Be interesting to see what he decides to do ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 He makes the game look so easy, technically brilliant. When he did so well at the start of the previous season, I thought he would have a big role to play. That injury against Stoke couldn't have come at a worse moment as he was displaying his talent more consistently. Will be sad to see him leave but we have more depth in the central midfield roles, and his departure is likely to help us bring in a winger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paninistickers Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 12 minutes ago, talking_goldfish said: What a shame. But his face doesn't fit with management and we have to accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 25 minutes ago, talking_goldfish said: Not really what we need (loan and OTB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 29 August 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 29 August 2021 Just now, st albans fox said: Not really what we need (loan and OTB) Well it is, we need players out the squad to be able to register any new additions. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Earle said: I used to dream of being mid table fodder… Don’t worry. Those days will be back one day, I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: Well it is, we need players out the squad to be able to register any new additions. I mean we’ed rather sell than loan obvs a space is a space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 Just now, st albans fox said: I mean we’ed rather sell than loan obvs a space is a space Yeah I'd like £12m + but a loan with an option to buy and them covering a fair whack of his wages still helps us out. With 3 years left on his deal the upshot is a good loan spell and his value doesn't diminish. Those wages will obviously be an issue though but it's better he plays regularly and tempts a team in to thinking he's worth paying good money for, he's well capable of doing so. A good year at Torino and I'd not be surprised to see one of the bigger Italian teams having a sniff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2021 Share Posted 29 August 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: Yeah I'd like £12m + but a loan with an option to buy and them covering a fair whack of his wages still helps us out. With 3 years left on his deal the upshot is a good loan spell and his value doesn't diminish. Those wages will obviously be an issue though but it's better he plays regularly and tempts a team in to thinking he's worth paying good money for, he's well capable of doing so. A good year at Torino and I'd not be surprised to see one of the bigger Italian teams having a sniff. Should offer him up to Napoli, they are in the market for a centre mid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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