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The Knee

By ThurmastonFox, in Leicester City Forum

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Just now, Mark_w said:

Not 'especially when we have black players playing for us'. It's not one iota worse because we have black players playing for us. We're not against racism because 'we've got some black players' we're against racism because it's wrong.

Yeah I agree but to those Neanderthals booing you would think seeing players in front of them might impact their booing, clearly not.

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Sly

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2 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Unfortunately people with bias views won’t change them. But more needs to be done to punish those who decide it’s acceptable. This won’t happen on a football pitch, the PL and FA can take things into their own hands, football clubs can identify offenders and ban them for life. 
 

The only thing left to be addressed is how is low incidents level discrimination and racism get dealt with? Do we need to look at new legislation? We have hate crime legislation but it only applies to certain offences.... do we need to push for something else, particularly when it comes to social media? 
 

Racism will probably always exist unfortunately, some people will just have these views, the way we handle these people needs to be better, the fact so many people take to social media to be racist just shows the message ain’t getting across. Perhaps it’s time we reviewed the legislation and write up something more impactful. We’re quite good at dealing with significant incidences of hate crimes, but legislation doesn’t always defend the ‘lower levels’ of hate crime, malicious communication etc. This is what needs to be looked at, and potentially changed/improved. 


I agree with the sentiment, however I feel a change is now need to upping the ante to really tackle it.
 

It’s disgusting that in this day and age, people are treated different due to skin colour, gender, religious belief and even hair colour. 
 

The social media companies need tackling and I don’t think a weekend blockade was long enough. 

 

We’re at a point where any discrimination needs tackling by law. Some won’t like it and say you’ll never change it. If we draw a line in the sand now and educate today’s youth, it won’t run into future generations. 
 

I know but it’s daft little things, like England should have abandoned the game they had in Hungry or whether it was. The stance UEFA took afterwards was pointless and they need to do more too.
 

Fining clubs is pointless. It’s the Neanderthals that need punishing, 

 

 

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srevell580

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Was definitely booing in M3 where I was sat today. Utter wastes of space. As a few have said before previously it's only for a matter of seconds and isn't as if they themselves are being forced to make the gesture.

 

Are we not all there to support our team & our players who obviously feel it's worth taking their stance in this way? What must the players themselves think when they hear that? 

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2 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Appaling to boo. Full stop. Racism hasn't gone away. 

racism will never go away, racism is committed by people of all colour and creed. Most right minded people think racism is disgusting but i think many felt the movement that was black lives matter in the summer, with the pulling down statues and the on going debate that made out normal good people to be racists wound people up. Football did already had a racism message,now if the players want to do it, fine, but were some of the white players pressurised into doing it? who knows, it's a complex issue, but those who disagree with it aren't automatically racist imo, and have every right to disagree with it but still feel racism is wrong. I myself think this country is as race friendly as you're ever going to get and has done wonders imo which is why i don't get raheem sterlings argument that only 25% of prem players are black, I don't think football fans could care

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It was bizarre but I don't think people were booing the message but rather the ineffectiveness of the gesture now. Still no place for booing regardless. 

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Just now, shailen said:

It was bizarre but I don't think people were booing the message but rather the ineffectiveness of the gesture now. Still no place for booing regardless. 

Not a chance.

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Cadno'r Cymoedd

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3 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

racism will never go away, racism is committed by people of all colour and creed. Most right minded people think racism is disgusting but i think many felt the movement that was black lives matter in the summer, with the pulling down statues and the on going debate that made out normal good people to be racists wound people up. Football did already had a racism message,now if the players want to do it, fine, but were some of the white players pressurised into doing it? who knows, it's a complex issue, but those who disagree with it aren't automatically racist imo, and have every right to disagree with it but still feel racism is wrong. I myself think this country is as race friendly as you're ever going to get and has done wonders imo which is why i don't get raheem sterlings argument that only 25% of prem players are black, I don't think football fans could care

Load of guff in bold. 

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21 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said:

I think taking the knee lost a huge amount of support when it affiliated with BLM which is a pretty toxic group. If they had done it for "Kick It Out" or similar from the start, I think people would be more receptive.

 

That said, every gesture loses its meaning a little bit eventually. Certainly don't agree with the booing.

Said this all along and I'm near certain this is the case.

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2 minutes ago, shailen said:

It was bizarre but I don't think people were booing the message but rather the ineffectiveness of the gesture now. Still no place for booing regardless. 

Obviously not man come on

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Tielemans63

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Sad when I've always thought our City, it's inhabitants and our fans have often led the way when it comes to racial integration. I'm extremely proud to come from Leicester, not least because the city has often been a shining example of multiculturalism. I love that as a kid, it was normal for me to have black friends, Muslim friends, Sikh friends, Hindu friends etc etc. 

 

Makes me extremely sad if this was our fans at our own ground.

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Mark_w

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1 minute ago, shailen said:

It was bizarre but I don't think people were booing the message but rather the ineffectiveness of the gesture now. Still no place for booing regardless. 

I think it's a bit naive to think people weren't booing the message. Anyone who even remotely cared about the issue of racism would not show their frustration at the ineffectiveness of the gesture by booing it. We have racist fans, Wembley and today couldn't have highlighted that any more effectively. We need to combat it, and we shouldn't start by stopping the players taking a knee because we're embarassed/would rather hide that we have a problem with racism than tackle it.

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Maybe they're booing the political organisation associated with taking the knee??

 

I am not a racist, I do not agree with any form of discrimination.

 

I don't like the BLM movement and much of what it stands for.

 

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

 

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Mark_w

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1 minute ago, 5waller5 said:

Maybe they're booing the political organisation associated with taking the knee??

 

I am not a racist, I do not agree with any form of discrimination.

 

I don't like the BLM movement and much of what it stands for.

 

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

 

What in particular is it you don't like about the BLM movement?

foxinsocks

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I want equality of opportunity and zero discrimination... in our  country and from our services 

Yet BLM goes further and demands an end to the police and the boarder force.

This may be too far....

The problem is that the knee is tied up with all this... and may even appear to be virtue signalling... while doing nothing to route out racist behaviour in football and society.

Maybe we could replace it with an anti racism and an equality salute of some kind.

But the knee is tied up with other agendas and has become meaningless 

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1 minute ago, 5waller5 said:

Maybe they're booing the political organisation associated with taking the knee??

 

I am not a racist, I do not agree with any form of discrimination.

 

I don't like the BLM movement and much of what it stands for.

 

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

 

I think you’re confused. The players aren’t taking the knee with an affiliation with BLM. They are taking a stand against racism. I can’t believe people still don’t get this. 

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4 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

I think it's a bit naive to think people weren't booing the message. Anyone who even remotely cared about the issue of racism would not show their frustration at the ineffectiveness of the gesture by booing it. We have racist fans, Wembley and today couldn't have highlighted that any more effectively. We need to combat it, and we shouldn't start by stopping the players taking a knee because we're embarassed/would rather hide that we have a problem with racism than tackle it.

People just need to stop being so pissing ignorant. It’s really not hard. 
 

I bet the halfwits don’t boo whilst they’re having their Indian or Chinese takeaway do they. 

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foxinsocks

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1 minute ago, Mark_w said:

What in particular is it you don't like about the BLM movement?

I dont think we should do away with the police and the boarder force.  Of course they should be free of racism and may have work to do

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