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There's always been typical conspiracist cranks, but the advent of instant global connection has allowed such beliefs to unify and perpetuate in a way both never seen before and that has a visible effect on voting patterns and (as a result) government policy.

 

Needless to say, that isn't good.

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48 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

There's always been typical conspiracist cranks, but the advent of instant global connection has allowed such beliefs to unify and perpetuate in a way both never seen before and that has a visible effect on voting patterns and (as a result) government policy.

 

Needless to say, that isn't good.

Unintended consequences…..  bit like var 😀

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

There's always been typical conspiracist cranks, but the advent of instant global connection has allowed such beliefs to unify and perpetuate in a way both never seen before and that has a visible effect on voting patterns and (as a result) government policy.

 

Needless to say, that isn't good.

That's exactly what an underground lizard person controlling the masses would say...

Anyone agree?

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https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/pentagon-ufo-expert-says-secret-group-has-non-human-material-k9556s7rc
 

Lue Elizondo, who worked at the Pentagon as the head of the AATIP program has released a book “Imminent”. Interesting that it’s getting coverage in The Times.

 

Current state of play is - the US government have acknowledged that UFO’s (rebranded as UAP) exist and they often intrude upon classified / military air space. It’d be easy to put it down to Chinese / Russian surveillance craft, but that’d be a huge national security risk as it would likely mean tech exists which can evade what the US military throws at it.

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So I was told a couple of weeks ago that the sun is no longer the sun. It’s not what we think. and this can be evidenced by the fact that sunflowers used to turn towards the sun and now they no longer do. What we see is actually a giant LED light made by China.

 

 

 

i mean, how do these people make it through the day without causing irreparable damage to themselves?

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1 hour ago, MPH said:

So I was told a couple of weeks ago that the sun is no longer the sun. It’s not what we think. and this can be evidenced by the fact that sunflowers used to turn towards the sun and now they no longer do. What we see is actually a giant LED light made by China.

 

 

 

i mean, how do these people make it through the day without causing irreparable damage to themselves?

That idea does show great imagination though!

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3 hours ago, MPH said:

So I was told a couple of weeks ago that the sun is no longer the sun. It’s not what we think. and this can be evidenced by the fact that sunflowers used to turn towards the sun and now they no longer do. What we see is actually a giant LED light made by China.

 

 

 

i mean, how do these people make it through the day without causing irreparable damage to themselves?

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6 hours ago, MPH said:

So I was told a couple of weeks ago that the sun is no longer the sun. It’s not what we think. and this can be evidenced by the fact that sunflowers used to turn towards the sun and now they no longer do. What we see is actually a giant LED light made by China.

 

 

 

i mean, how do these people make it through the day without causing irreparable damage to themselves?

utter bollocks....................Japan made the light

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4 hours ago, Royston. said:

utter bollocks....................Japan made the light

hmm but wait... isnt Jesus the light.... so.....

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13 hours ago, MPH said:

So I was told a couple of weeks ago that the sun is no longer the sun. It’s not what we think. and this can be evidenced by the fact that sunflowers used to turn towards the sun and now they no longer do. What we see is actually a giant LED light made by China.

 

 

 

i mean, how do these people make it through the day without causing irreparable damage to themselves?

Made in China, straight away there you know its debunked :ph34r: though they would probably say eclipses happen when its on the fritz 

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A common trope amongst these goons is that the moon is in fact "a luminary", a ball of plasma (even though they don't know what the word means) and is therefore has no solid surface in spite of the fact that you can see the mare and the lunar highlands with the naked eye and a cheap back yard telescope reveals its topography and relief in detail. But then, these are the same individuals that maintain that the Earth is flat. 

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7 hours ago, ithuriel said:

Made in China, straight away there you know its debunked :ph34r: though they would probably say eclipses happen when its on the fritz 

I want to know who ran the wires up there for them to plug it in!

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We had a few friends over last weekend, and two of them are real conspiracy theorists. They often send me things to check out, which I usually just glance at and shrug off, though they're utterly convinced these theories are true. As the evening went on and the drinks kept flowing, they started to share their views on what they think is really happening in the world today, so we decided to humor them. Here’s the gist of what they believe (I'm sure you've heard it all before).

 

A clandestine elite, characterised by psychopathic tendencies, has infiltrated critical sectors of global governance, including medicine, science, defense, finance, and media. This group is orchestrating a deliberate dismantling of existing social structures through an "Imposition and Acquiescence Protocol," which aims to exert total control over the human population. Key political figures, such as Starmer, Trudeau, Barnier, and Putin, are seen as pawns or "stooges" who follow directives from organisations like the WEF, WFO and WHO (who ultimately get there instuctions from pwerful elites who operate in the shadows).

The agenda includes triggering a planned World War III, which would lead to a catastrophic collapse of societal systems, setting the stage for a "Great Reset." This reset, heavily influenced by tech moguls like Elon Musk and Bill Gates, envisions a world governed by technocrats. In this new order, a universal basic income would be implemented, compelling compliance from the populace to receive support. As artificial intelligence becomes integrated into every aspect of business, traditional jobs will become obsolete, leaving individuals with no choice but to conform to the new system or risk receiving nothing.

 

Increased taxes often disproportionately affect the middle class, pushing them closer to the working class and widening the gap between the wealthy and everyone else. As taxes rise, the financial burden can limit disposable income for middle-class families, making it harder for them to maintain their standard of living. This shift can lead to a reduction in economic mobility, as those in the middle class find it increasingly difficult to save, invest, or afford education and healthcare. Consequently, the divide between the affluent and the rest of the population continues to grow, exacerbating social and economic inequalities.


Privatisation has led to a situation where the government no longer owns essential services or assets, making society overly dependent on private entities and foreign countries for basic needs.  Our reliance on other countries will create vulnerabilities, especially in planned times of crisis, where a catastrophic event might expose the fragility of such dependencies.

 

The act of allowing migrants into the country is a deliberate strategy to dilute national identity and create civil unrest, causing divisions among citizens.  The government are powerless to stop migration as it's part of the "Elites Agenda".

 

The same is happening in the USA, suggesting a coordinated effort by powerful elites to dismantle western society.

 

They believe that people blame their leaders for these issues, but they believe it's part of a larger, orchestrated plan rather than merely a result of poor governance.


They feel people who raise issues or question the mainstream perspective are frequently accused of spreading misinformation, even if they're simply voicing concerns.  Those who challenge the system publicly can face backlash, and the mainstream media may portray them as problematic figures or even criminals, effectively silencing their perspectives.  They gave examples of Andrew Tate, Russell Brand, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins as individuals who, having spoken out, encountered significant criticism and scrutiny, which you see as attempts to discredit or neutralise their influence.


One got quite animated about the vaccine and is adament that an increase in heart attacks and cancers, might not be entirely natural occurrences but could be part of a larger, deliberate plan to reduce population numbers, and the impending large-scale conflict, potentially even World War III, might be part of this hypothetical agenda, furthering this depopulation effort.

 

All this is done very slowly and systematically, so people believe things are random, where in reality everything is orchestrated piece by piece.  These elites control the flow of information to the public, shaping the narrative so that the majority end up sharing the same thoughts and perspectives, whilst the others are declared nut-jobs!

 

There was probably more, but I was 2 bottles of red in and too inebriated to remember (or care).  They’re genuinely lovely people, and we had a debate but didn't fall out over any of it.  It’s fascinating how people can have such outlandish views about the world though.

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Surprised to see Stephen Bartlett entertaining a topic that is often met with ridicule. Even more surprised to see reasonable discussion around this episode on his LinkedIn post.

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On 28/10/2024 at 21:38, pazzerfox said:

 


They feel people who raise issues or question the mainstream perspective are frequently accused of spreading misinformation, even if they're simply voicing concerns.  Those who challenge the system publicly can face backlash, and the mainstream media may portray them as problematic figures or even criminals, effectively silencing their perspectives.  They gave examples of Andrew Tate, Russell Brand, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins as individuals who, having spoken out, encountered significant criticism and scrutiny, which you see as attempts to discredit or neutralise their influence.

 

Hmmm an amazing coincidence that said people who talk total and utter shite encountered criticism and scrutiny.

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3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Hmmm an amazing coincidence that said people who talk total and utter shite encountered criticism and scrutiny.

In addition to behaving in an unethical and unlawful manner. 

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40 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Hmmm an amazing coincidence that said people who talk total and utter shite encountered criticism and scrutiny.

Bunch of racists and rapists get criticised = big conspiracy.

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1 hour ago, Trumpet said:


Surprised to see Stephen Bartlett entertaining a topic that is often met with ridicule. Even more surprised to see reasonable discussion around this episode on his LinkedIn post.

Bartlett has all kinds of fringe lunatics on his show, doesn’t surprise me at all. I stay subscribed just to see which crazy he has next. I think he’s a smart businessman, but naive when he i reviews people like this. 

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On 28/10/2024 at 21:38, pazzerfox said:

We had a few friends over last weekend, and two of them are real conspiracy theorists. They often send me things to check out, which I usually just glance at and shrug off, though they're utterly convinced these theories are true. As the evening went on and the drinks kept flowing, they started to share their views on what they think is really happening in the world today, so we decided to humor them. Here’s the gist of what they believe (I'm sure you've heard it all before).

 

A clandestine elite, characterised by psychopathic tendencies, has infiltrated critical sectors of global governance, including medicine, science, defense, finance, and media. This group is orchestrating a deliberate dismantling of existing social structures through an "Imposition and Acquiescence Protocol," which aims to exert total control over the human population. Key political figures, such as Starmer, Trudeau, Barnier, and Putin, are seen as pawns or "stooges" who follow directives from organisations like the WEF, WFO and WHO (who ultimately get there instuctions from pwerful elites who operate in the shadows).

The agenda includes triggering a planned World War III, which would lead to a catastrophic collapse of societal systems, setting the stage for a "Great Reset." This reset, heavily influenced by tech moguls like Elon Musk and Bill Gates, envisions a world governed by technocrats. In this new order, a universal basic income would be implemented, compelling compliance from the populace to receive support. As artificial intelligence becomes integrated into every aspect of business, traditional jobs will become obsolete, leaving individuals with no choice but to conform to the new system or risk receiving nothing.

 

Increased taxes often disproportionately affect the middle class, pushing them closer to the working class and widening the gap between the wealthy and everyone else. As taxes rise, the financial burden can limit disposable income for middle-class families, making it harder for them to maintain their standard of living. This shift can lead to a reduction in economic mobility, as those in the middle class find it increasingly difficult to save, invest, or afford education and healthcare. Consequently, the divide between the affluent and the rest of the population continues to grow, exacerbating social and economic inequalities.


Privatisation has led to a situation where the government no longer owns essential services or assets, making society overly dependent on private entities and foreign countries for basic needs.  Our reliance on other countries will create vulnerabilities, especially in planned times of crisis, where a catastrophic event might expose the fragility of such dependencies.

 

The act of allowing migrants into the country is a deliberate strategy to dilute national identity and create civil unrest, causing divisions among citizens.  The government are powerless to stop migration as it's part of the "Elites Agenda".

 

The same is happening in the USA, suggesting a coordinated effort by powerful elites to dismantle western society.

 

They believe that people blame their leaders for these issues, but they believe it's part of a larger, orchestrated plan rather than merely a result of poor governance.


They feel people who raise issues or question the mainstream perspective are frequently accused of spreading misinformation, even if they're simply voicing concerns.  Those who challenge the system publicly can face backlash, and the mainstream media may portray them as problematic figures or even criminals, effectively silencing their perspectives.  They gave examples of Andrew Tate, Russell Brand, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins as individuals who, having spoken out, encountered significant criticism and scrutiny, which you see as attempts to discredit or neutralise their influence.


One got quite animated about the vaccine and is adament that an increase in heart attacks and cancers, might not be entirely natural occurrences but could be part of a larger, deliberate plan to reduce population numbers, and the impending large-scale conflict, potentially even World War III, might be part of this hypothetical agenda, furthering this depopulation effort.

 

All this is done very slowly and systematically, so people believe things are random, where in reality everything is orchestrated piece by piece.  These elites control the flow of information to the public, shaping the narrative so that the majority end up sharing the same thoughts and perspectives, whilst the others are declared nut-jobs!

 

There was probably more, but I was 2 bottles of red in and too inebriated to remember (or care).  They’re genuinely lovely people, and we had a debate but didn't fall out over any of it.  It’s fascinating how people can have such outlandish views about the world though.

That’s wild. I have a few friends who have some edgy opinions but nothing as crazy as that. Plenty of people who think the vaccines are a deliberate attempt by government to kill people. Blows my mind. 

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1 minute ago, Monk said:

Bartlett has all kinds of fringe lunatics on his show, doesn’t surprise me at all. I stay subscribed just to see which crazy he has next. I think he’s a smart businessman, but naive when he i reviews people like this. 

I disagree, I love listening to people who have alternative views, even if I consider them bizarre, there's nothing more boring than listening to people I agree with.

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