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10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I keep saying we need to get nastier with some of them to get them out. Players don't have to be sold against their will but trying to fight for your place when you've been told you have no future here is possibly futile. 

 

He'll end up going to Turkey on loan after our transfer window has shut 😫

Spurs have put Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguilon and Winks into the dog house, making them train alone until bids come in.

 

Wish we were that ruthless at times.

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2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Spurs have put Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguilon and Winks into the dog house, making them train alone until bids come in.

 

Wish we were that ruthless at times.

He’s already been removed from the matchday squad so looks like they’re moving in that direction. 

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2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Spurs have put Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguilon and Winks into the dog house, making them train alone until bids come in.

 

Wish we were that ruthless at times.

Conte is superb, United missed a trick not getting him in.

 

He's elite but almost goes under the radar with it.

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1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:


Apparently he’s turned down two clubs…

 

 

Clearly one of the players Rodgers was on about when he said that the thought football players "actually wanted to play football," and that the challenge in moving people on is because the club is "a nice place to be" (i.e. they're being paid a lot to do fvck all)

 

 

Go away, Jannik. Read the room, man. 

 

 

 

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If he feels he's been badly treated by Rodgers or the club, then he's going to give the middle finger as long as possible.  He could have been promised game time to persuade him to come to Leicester, which didn't materialise and maybe he feels he's been unfairly made a scapegoat for the team defensive frailties.....because it can't be Rodgers fault, can it!  We've all been in situations at the work place where the boss has been a complete tool, and then maybe dug our heels in as a big F.U.

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Vestergaard is nearly 30. First principle for him now is to earn as much money as he can before his pay collapses. We entered into a binding contract with him with free will. We should not have been so generous but the only way out now is to find a way that doesn',t involve him losing a penny.

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6 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Conte is superb, United missed a trick not getting him in.

 

He's elite but almost goes under the radar with it.

He is, although he won't be the Spurs manager in two years time.

 

He usually comes in, works everyone to breaking point and then leaves. He generally leaves his teams in a bad way.

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Just now, Le Renard said:

If he feels he's been badly treated by Rodgers or the club, then he's going to give the middle finger as long as possible.  He could have been promised game time to persuade him to come to Leicester, which didn't materialise and maybe he feels he's been unfairly made a scapegoat for the team defensive frailties.....because it can't be Rodgers fault, can it!  We've all been in situations at the work place where the boss has been a complete tool, and then maybe dug our heels in as a big F.U.

He had plenty of game time between September and January last year and he was absolutely dreadful. Are their systematic things we could have to make him not quite as terrible? Possibly, but he only really has himself to blame. 

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We could have almost had 75% of our cash back and he blocked it... this is just the club's fault for giving him such a cushy contract or better yet for buying him in the first place. Bloke gets to train at top facilities while getting loads of cash, not shocked he's happy where he is.

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22 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Assuming his wife wants to move to Turkey ……..

 

I think it has to be about money 

 

we are contacted to pay another two years.  He is presumably wanting us to cover the wage difference for both those years and perhaps we only want to cover one of them.  they may also be deliberately offering him a lowish wage because they have been told by his agent that we are going to cover off the difference! 
 

and sorry to anyone who clicked because this thread has gone hot !

I suspect you're right, but if a team is willing to pay £11m for him, they'll be offering him at least £40-50k IMO. So we would need to top up the £20-25k or whatever which would equate to about £2-3m over 2 years. I'd do it in a heartbeat, he's a complete disaster and to get out of this deal with half of what we paid for him after subsidising his wages is a result.

 

 

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Just now, AKCJ said:

He is, although he won't be the Spurs manager in two years time.

 

He usually comes in, works everyone to breaking point and then leaves. He generally leaves his teams in a bad way.

Yeah, he usually gets the house in order for the first season or two and then burns it down as soon as he's done. There's no doubt that he is a brilliant tactician and motivator, I'm just not sure that he's an ideal long-term solution. 

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Initially incandescent with rage about this.  But there must be something more to the story.  He's been told he needs to play to make the WC.  He clearly isn't going to play for us.  Both offers from clubs in nice locations from a footballers point of view.  A good chance to rebuild his career and a fresh start.

 

Surely if we had to agree to subsidise his wages we would have done, it's merely a stupidity tax reflecting the fact we signed him in the first place.   

 

So, what else is preventing him from fvcking off?  The delights of a curry down Belgrave Road?

 

It just doesn't seem to make any sense.  

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3 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

Initially incandescent with rage about this.  But there must be something more to the story.  He's been told he needs to play to make the WC.  He clearly isn't going to play for us.  Both offers from clubs in nice locations from a footballers point of view.  A good chance to rebuild his career and a fresh start.

 

Surely if we had to agree to subsidise his wages we would have done, it's merely a stupidity tax reflecting the fact we signed him in the first place.   

 

So, what else is preventing him from fvcking off?  The delights of a curry down Belgrave Road?

 

It just doesn't seem to make any sense.  

Maybe he is looking at the clubs that bid for him, and fears the same thing will happen: He'll fall down the pecking order and won't play. I move out of the Premier League might be best for him as far as playing time, but we would have to cover much of his wages and probably write off the transfer fee for that to happen.

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1 hour ago, Dusty said:

As I keep saying, it’s really common for clubs to contribute to wages when a player leaves. If we really want him gone that bad, we won’t struggle to pay 20/30% of them for a couple of years as that will still save us millions and allow us to sign replacements that we actually want. There is most likely another reason, probably just not liked the clubs that have come in for him so far. 

Tbf we do have a great set up, why would anyone leave?? Probably still still make the Danish team then cushy life till the end of the contract.

 

Training ground can be a curse too!

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On one hand, Vesty is well within his rights to pick up a wage for just training if we are contracted with him.

 

On the other, and this is probably a question for anyone who works in football, how is it perceived within a squad when its clear management want to move them on but they dont want to go? Do the other players even give a shit or do they see the player as selfish / not a team player?

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1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I keep saying we need to get nastier with some of them to get them out. Players don't have to be sold against their will but trying to fight for your place when you've been told you have no future here is possibly futile. 

 

He'll end up going to Turkey on loan after our transfer window has shut 😫

 

Edit: just noticed it’s already been posted re Conte and spurs

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Determination? Fvck off. 

 

He loves his country and wants to play in a world cup but not if it means earning a measly 50k a week instead of 70k a week. 

 

Footballer priorities. 

We're the ones who gave him a contract 

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