Damage Limitation

[Bryn]

We’re going to be in rapid decline if we don’t get a grip now. We’ve probably got enough to survive this season but without a plan we are crashing back down again, mark my words. I’ve been watching football 25 years now, I know the telltale signs of a club in a downward spiral.

 

For me the salvage operation starts now.

 

1. Sack Brendan. He’s a coward, he has no faith in the club and the club has no faith him him. The current side is built in his image; intelligent, initially enthusiastic but spineless, lacking in ideas, creativity and energy.

2. Cash in on the players who want to go, at least some of them. For me the hill I’d die on is Maddison. Fofana can go for £80m+, Tielemans can go for whatever we can get, within reason, and any player we have any kind of replacement for is available for transfer.
3. We need to look at young, upcoming players again. Some excellent players have moved from the Championship in recent years, look at the likes of Bowen. We need to be getting to them first. We need better international recruitment again. No more silly fees for established players. We need to bring them in THIS season so they have time to settle and lead the club forward.

4. Renewed focus on the medical, scouting and youth development facilities. Our fitness and recruitment have been dogshit for a couple of years.

 

If we move in the next 6 months I think we can stop the slide but will probably reset in mid table. But I think if we maintain the status quo we’re relegated within two or three years.

[AKCJ]

Thinks we are going to go in a rapid decline.

 

Thinks selling our best players is the way forward.

[coolhandfox]

One game panic, run for the hills, we are all going to die

[Daggers]

5 minutes ago, Bryn said:

We’re going to be in rapid decline if we don’t get a grip now. We’ve probably got enough to survive this season but without a plan we are crashing back down again, mark my words. I’ve been watching football 25 years now, I know the telltale signs of a club in a downward spiral.

It started last season, it was screamingly obvious.

 

I agree with your points, just that it should've already happened. A second summer of rebuilding completely and utterly wasted.

[Nalis]

We arent going into rapid decline. This shit is basically what happened last season so if anything its more of the status quo.

 

Expecting us to be somewhere between 8th and 13th come the end of the season, even with the loss of a star player.

Edited 7 August 2022 by Nalis

[Daggers]

1 minute ago, coolhandfox said:

One game panic, run for the hills, we are all going to die

You realise we've played football matches prior to today?

[The Horse's Mouth]

Don't be bloody daft, nothing has changed this is exactly what would've happened last season

[eastendfox]

Not often enough said about the hungry championship players, too many games where we simply get outfought, and only KDH shows the hunger to resist.

[Phenom]

3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

One game panic, run for the hills, we are all going to die

One game? The decline has been happening for at least a year. Open your eyes.

[Sly]

We’ll be okay this season. 
 

It’s next season that concerns me, if we don’t sort our **** out, as we could be losing up to 8 players. 
 

In reality, we could field our fringe players and try and fight of relegation. Our squad has enough talent to see us through this season. We’ll get 50 - 60 points. 
 

Next season, I’m not so sure. 

[LFox99]

11 minutes ago, Bryn said:

We’re going to be in rapid decline if we don’t get a grip now. We’ve probably got enough to survive this season but without a plan we are crashing back down again, mark my words. I’ve been watching football 25 years now, I know the telltale signs of a club in a downward spiral.

 

For me the salvage operation starts now.

 

1. Sack Brendan. He’s a coward, he has no faith in the club and the club has no faith him him. The current side is built in his image; intelligent, initially enthusiastic but spineless, lacking in ideas, creativity and energy.

2. Cash in on the players who want to go, at least some of them. For me the hill I’d die on is Maddison. Fofana can go for £80m+, Tielemans can go for whatever we can get, within reason, and any player we have any kind of replacement for is available for transfer.
3. We need to look at young, upcoming players again. Some excellent players have moved from the Championship in recent years, look at the likes of Bowen. We need to be getting to them first. We need better international recruitment again. No more silly fees for established players. We need to bring them in THIS season so they have time to settle and lead the club forward.

4. Renewed focus on the medical, scouting and youth development facilities. Our fitness and recruitment have been dogshit for a couple of years.

 

If we move in the next 6 months I think we can stop the slide but will probably reset in mid table. But I think if we maintain the status quo we’re relegated within two or three years.

You're a clown

[Silebyfox_89]

12 minutes ago, Bryn said:

We’re going to be in rapid decline if we don’t get a grip now. We’ve probably got enough to survive this season but without a plan we are crashing back down again, mark my words. I’ve been watching football 25 years now, I know the telltale signs of a club in a downward spiral.

 

For me the salvage operation starts now.

 

1. Sack Brendan. He’s a coward, he has no faith in the club and the club has no faith him him. The current side is built in his image; intelligent, initially enthusiastic but spineless, lacking in ideas, creativity and energy.

2. Cash in on the players who want to go, at least some of them. For me the hill I’d die on is Maddison. Fofana can go for £80m+, Tielemans can go for whatever we can get, within reason, and any player we have any kind of replacement for is available for transfer.
3. We need to look at young, upcoming players again. Some excellent players have moved from the Championship in recent years, look at the likes of Bowen. We need to be getting to them first. We need better international recruitment again. No more silly fees for established players. We need to bring them in THIS season so they have time to settle and lead the club forward.

4. Renewed focus on the medical, scouting and youth development facilities. Our fitness and recruitment have been dogshit for a couple of years.

 

If we move in the next 6 months I think we can stop the slide but will probably reset in mid table. But I think if we maintain the status quo we’re relegated within two or three years.

Christ. 1 game in get a grip FFS.

[CosbehFox]

I don’t know how you watch that game and go ‘we are in rapid decline’, and all that. For a long spell, we controlled the ball, scored twice, hit the post twice. 
 

We are consistently let down by the back up brigade being poor and a manager who likes to overthink. 

[TeaMen Tom]

1 minute ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

Christ. 1 game in get a grip FFS.

It is one game. Problem is it's the same s--t we saw last season. The manager ignored his bench in favor of 'his guys' even with the game obviously slipping out of control. Like with ManU, a lot of the rot seems to still be around.

And this could all go south when teams want your best players, they'll likely be enticed by bigger clubs/more $$, and you don't have much in the wings.

[Foxxed]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

One game panic, run for the hills, we are all going to die

I’m going to be panicking after three games personally. Maybe we should do a poll.

[PAULCFC]

25 years....We all bow down to your knowlege!

[Chrysalis]

I agree Brendan needs to go, I think the issue is how expensive it will be, and KP have always not liked wasting money given how hard they negotiate etc.  

If the manager problem isnt dealt with then players will see us as on a downward spiral, and the ones we got will want to leave (the better ones), and we will struggle to bring new quality players in.

 

The momentum of bad decisions, results drop off, injuries etc. at this point has lasted a year or more.

 

Its also clear financially we have overstretched ourselves, and the owners are not willing to plough money in with fancy sponsorship etc.  At this point I dont think we getting a stadium expansion to be honest, they likely wondering when to announce it.

 

We need to keep Maddison, I agree Fofana and Tielemans can be sold, I also agree focus should be on bringing in the best youth players we got, and I would also scour the French league again for players that are up and coming, like we did with Kante and Mahrez, instead of looking for already proven expensive players.  Stop buying from the EPL as we will only get rejects.

[Bryn]

8 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I don’t know how you watch that game and go ‘we are in rapid decline’, and all that. For a long spell, we controlled the ball, scored twice, hit the post twice. 
 

We are consistently let down by the back up brigade being poor and a manager who likes to overthink. 

We’ve been doing that for about two years.

[Lambert09]

9 hours ago, Bryn said:

We’re going to be in rapid decline if we don’t get a grip now. We’ve probably got enough to survive this season but without a plan we are crashing back down again, mark my words. I’ve been watching football 25 years now, I know the telltale signs of a club in a downward spiral.

 

For me the salvage operation starts now.

 

1. Sack Brendan. He’s a coward, he has no faith in the club and the club has no faith him him. The current side is built in his image; intelligent, initially enthusiastic but spineless, lacking in ideas, creativity and energy.

2. Cash in on the players who want to go, at least some of them. For me the hill I’d die on is Maddison. Fofana can go for £80m+, Tielemans can go for whatever we can get, within reason, and any player we have any kind of replacement for is available for transfer.
3. We need to look at young, upcoming players again. Some excellent players have moved from the Championship in recent years, look at the likes of Bowen. We need to be getting to them first. We need better international recruitment again. No more silly fees for established players. We need to bring them in THIS season so they have time to settle and lead the club forward.

4. Renewed focus on the medical, scouting and youth development facilities. Our fitness and recruitment have been dogshit for a couple of years.

 

If we move in the next 6 months I think we can stop the slide but will probably reset in mid table. But I think if we maintain the status quo we’re relegated within two or three years.

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Edited 8 August 2022 by Lambert09

[baldeagle]

9 hours ago, Bryn said:

We’re going to be in rapid decline if we don’t get a grip now. We’ve probably got enough to survive this season but without a plan we are crashing back down again, mark my words. I’ve been watching football 25 years now, I know the telltale signs of a club in a downward spiral.

 

For me the salvage operation starts now.

 

1. Sack Brendan. He’s a coward, he has no faith in the club and the club has no faith him him. The current side is built in his image; intelligent, initially enthusiastic but spineless, lacking in ideas, creativity and energy.

2. Cash in on the players who want to go, at least some of them. For me the hill I’d die on is Maddison. Fofana can go for £80m+, Tielemans can go for whatever we can get, within reason, and any player we have any kind of replacement for is available for transfer.
3. We need to look at young, upcoming players again. Some excellent players have moved from the Championship in recent years, look at the likes of Bowen. We need to be getting to them first. We need better international recruitment again. No more silly fees for established players. We need to bring them in THIS season so they have time to settle and lead the club forward.

4. Renewed focus on the medical, scouting and youth development facilities. Our fitness and recruitment have been dogshit for a couple of years.

 

If we move in the next 6 months I think we can stop the slide but will probably reset in mid table. But I think if we maintain the status quo we’re relegated within two or three years.

Give ya head a wobble … I mean really 

[iancognito]

Some of the points are valid but this club doesn't need the fans turning on the manager to make a change. There are some very intelligent people in the boardroom both football and business-wise. If there's an issue or an actual downward slide, they'll resolve it. Too much effort has gone in to establishing us in this league for them to throw it away blindly hoping for change.

in 3 or 4 weeks we'll know more about what we have to with in the squad. In 3 or 4 months if we're in trouble or actually spiralling, changes will be made.

[Grebfromgrebland]

14 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I don’t know how you watch that game and go ‘we are in rapid decline’, and all that. For a long spell, we controlled the ball, scored twice, hit the post twice. 
 

We are consistently let down by the back up brigade being poor and a manager who likes to overthink. 

The fact that we were in control and Brentford were awful but when they scored an easy goal it was inevitable that we weren't going to win that match.

 

That's the worry. We're not winning games we should be. Even when we're cruising.

 

When you have to score 3 goals to win a match you're not going to win that many. We will concede 2 a game if we have to shoehorn amartey into the team due to Barnes injury and our resulting change in formation.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

14 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I don’t know how you watch that game and go ‘we are in rapid decline’, and all that. For a long spell, we controlled the ball, scored twice, hit the post twice. 
 

We are consistently let down by the back up brigade being poor and a manager who likes to overthink. 

He didn't use the 'back up brigade' though. Had he done so, we'd have probably won. 

[phoneticerror]

Typical FT

[foxinsocks]

15 hours ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

Christ. 1 game in get a grip FFS.

But its not one game is it.  All thru last season we lost games we should have won.  Rodgers is the reason.  We were bullied out of the eufa cup.  The forrest game! Dropped points against relegated clubs nevermind midtable rivals.  Why do folk think rodgers can turn this around?