Trav Le Bleu Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 14 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I don’t disagree with your first comment. I do however strongly disagree with the second sentence. If you’re hiring and retaining incompetent people, you must yourself be incompetent. There is no excuse for the same again approach from the summer given the disaster that occurred last season. My boss hired me, go figure! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 27 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: Going for the bingo card on this one in reply to this. "Everyone else is doing it" "That website is lying" "We need as much money as we can to meet FFP, I don't care where it comes from" "Bet you'd rather see us in League 2" "Who is it even harming?" "So what?" "Top made us PL Champions you traitorous bastard" 29 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: You have such a hate boner The first one is in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Le Renard Posted 2 February Popular Post Share Posted 2 February For those wanting TOP to sell up, be careful what you wish for. I don't see anyone buying us apart from an American-style ownership model ala Yanited or Burnley. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyFox Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Yeah I think this will be the only season we see Maresca a club with money and ambition will take him Almost every other club is dealing with the same issues as us if not worse? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: The first one is in! Not very good at bingo are you. Edited 2 February by coolhandfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February Not necessarily wanting him to sell, but he absolutely needs to clear out the decks and bring in new blood to lead the club from the top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 31 minutes ago, Le Renard said: For those wanting TOP to sell up, be careful what you wish for. I don't see anyone buying us apart from an American-style ownership model ala Yanited or Burnley. Ah yes I forgot, because there is hypothetical potential for things to be worse we should all be grateful for the amateurs currently running the shop. “Be careful what you wish for” – what a bollocks phrase. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February Just now, Happy Fox said: How would it? Depends who we are being sold too.. It's a double edge sword, no one can know whether it would be better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 1 minute ago, Langston said: Ah yes I forgot, because there is hypothetical potential for things to be worse we should all be grateful for the amateurs currently running the shop. “Be careful what you wish for” – what a bollocks phrase. Yes, their is a hypothetical chance for things to be better or worse. Judging by how things were pre-KP we may have caused for pause 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 2 minutes ago, Langston said: Ah yes I forgot, because there is hypothetical potential for things to be worse we should all be grateful for the amateurs currently running the shop. “Be careful what you wish for” – what a bollocks phrase. We did get the same phrase repeatedly thrown around while Brendan was running us into the ground. We've ended up with a forward thinking, hard working, innovative, young, ambitious, potentially highly sought after coach with links and connections in the game Brendan could only dream of. Like anything in life, we could end up with the Sheff Wed's nut job owner but we could also end up with an ambitious Vichai like entrepreneur - you just never know. At the moment, the chairman of the board is simply not fit for purpose - that is evident and he lacks the intelligence to realise to make up for his own incompetence he needs good people around him. Something has got to give. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 45 minutes ago, Le Renard said: For those wanting TOP to sell up, be careful what you wish for. I don't see anyone buying us apart from an American-style ownership model ala Yanited or Burnley. New owners could like, get us relegated from the Premier League, or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 15 minutes ago, Stadt said: New owners could like, get us relegated from the Premier League, or something! Or even get us to the point where we couldn't sign anyone due to FFP! Or let millions of pounds of talent walk out of that door for free. That would be terrible if owners let that happen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stadt Posted 2 February Popular Post Share Posted 2 February 2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Or even get us to the point where we couldn't sign anyone due to FFP! Or let millions of pounds of talent walk out of that door for free. That would be terrible if owners let that happen. Vichai and Top are completely different. Vichai was a successful billionaire who built (even disregarding the circumstances) a multinational corporation, elevated a football club beyond it''s wild expectations and made cut-throat decisions when necessary. Top is his son who inherited all of that. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jobyfox Posted 2 February Popular Post Share Posted 2 February I rarely comment on threads about Top, Rudkin etc. as I don't know the inner workings of the club. It's easy, for example, to throw Rudkin's name around without really knowing what the situation is or what constraints he's working within. I will, however, just look at the facts as they're known. When Vichai and family took over we saw quick, decisive, decision making especially where managers were concerned. I was personally often ready to give managers much longer before they were, sometimes quite ruthlessly, dismissed. Compare that to Rodgers who was left to preside over things when it was obvious that the team were in a terminal decline and not playing for the manager. We waited for the inevitable sacking, which came too late to save us. That could be because Top is more pragmatic, but it's just a stark contrast to how things used to happen before Vichai's untimely passing. The second piece of evidence is the poor recruitment, the inflated salaries and the failure to get transfer fees for players. I've never seen so many players running their contracts down and leaving for nothing. I understand the FFP situation, but it's still frustrating to see so many players still on the pitch who aren't invested in the future direction of the club. This isn't to criticise those club legends who don't owe us anything, but I'm thinking more of the likes of Tielemans, Praet, Evans, Perez and Iheanacho who were, or are, playing without jeopardy and no apparent commitment to the cause. We've just come out of an unprecedented era of success under the current ownership. They've been rightly lauded for their contribution and we all know we couldn't have achieved what we have without them. Everyone in business knows, however, that you can never stand still. You must always be looking at ways to innovate and evolve. Just as the ownership and hierarchy within the club have been praised for their achievements surely we should analyse things when they go wrong? Given the nature of the decline it seems surprising that only the coaching staff have taken the fall. Just as we got things so right previously we have to question whether the current structure is the right one to take us forward. I'm quite surprised that a review of last season hasn't resulted in any structural change and the likes of Whelan, Rudkin and co. have all just stayed in role. My worry is this stems from Top either: not being empowered; or from the indecisiveness described above. We're currently top of the league and an immediate return to the Premier League remains a strong possibility, but not much has changed off the pitch and only time will tell whether those decisions are the right ones for the club 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Renard Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 1 hour ago, Stadt said: New owners could like, get us relegated from the Premier League, or something! Yep fair point, I'm still pissed off at how it was messed up. I'm pretty certain a Middle Eastern country is not going to buy us, so any new owners would eventually be constrained by the same problems this current regime has, but there are enough dodgy turds out there to f**k us over, so at this moment in time, I think it's probably advisable to stick with KP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 2 February Share Posted 2 February 13 hours ago, Happy Fox said: How would it? Depends who we are being sold too.. Because the majority of clubs would kill for our owners. They're the 1% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February 22 hours ago, coolhandfox said: I'm pretty he's ambition wasn’t the problem on that front. Poor decision making yes, ambition no. Actually his ambition is the reason for us being in trouble with FFP. The change of old money already spent to equity doesnt mean anything in relation to ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February 22 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Are people genuinely ok with this? https://www.playthegame.org/news/meet-the-hydras-tracing-the-illegal-gambling-operators-that-sponsor-football/?s=08 And despite stuff like this, fleecing kids £10 for the player sessions etc, you get pots and pans clappers like this character. The finishing sentence it's quite something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February 13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: And despite stuff like this, fleecing kids £10 for the player sessions etc, you get pots and pans clappers like this character. The finishing sentence it's quite something. Same tits who last year were clapping us off after another fine defeat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February 38 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: And despite stuff like this, fleecing kids £10 for the player sessions etc, you get pots and pans clappers like this character. The finishing sentence it's quite something. You know very well they are a member of the 85 min brigade also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February 44 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: And despite stuff like this, fleecing kids £10 for the player sessions etc, you get pots and pans clappers like this character. The finishing sentence it's quite something. Honestly, what the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Weller 2 Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February There are so many entitled, spoilt people on here. The big picture is as clear as daylight; with King Power we are a fairly big deal, without it we are like any other midlands club in the championship. Take your pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Weller 2 Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February Just now, Mr Weller 2 said: There are so many entitled, spoilt people on here. The big picture is as clear as daylight; with King Power we are a fairly big deal, without it we are like any other midlands club in the championship. Take your pick. PS please stop writing long posts. This is social media not the athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkonline Posted 3 February Share Posted 3 February A few seem to be rather ignorant of the fact that from day one Top had a major role in the club - it wasn't all his father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westernpark Posted 3 February Popular Post Share Posted 3 February (edited) 27 minutes ago, pkonline said: A few seem to be rather ignorant of the fact that from day one Top had a major role in the club - it wasn't all his father. A few seem to be ignorant that King Power’s success with this football club was built by Nigel Pearson and his support staff. It’s all a very interesting debate, bordering on the lines of academic historiography. Edited 3 February by westernpark 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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