leicsmac Posted 13 January 2023 Share Posted 13 January 2023 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64258669 This reeks of whitewash. Throwing some smaller names under the bus to deflect from the bigger ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajthefox Posted 13 January 2023 Share Posted 13 January 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 13:14, Leicester_Loyal said: Anti-strike bill: Unions criticise plans as unworkable https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64219016 The Government are scumbags, 'protect the public' my arse. We'll find ways around it, mark my words It's exasperating seeing so much crap come out of this government. I'm so fed up of all this rhetoric about helping people when they are pushing stuff like this and the police bill which are just about control and shutting down our freedoms. I can't wait to see the back of these useless twats. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 (edited) some of the comments out there lol. Terrible imo. I get the hug part but looks hideous Edited 15 January 2023 by Jattdogg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 17 January 2023 Share Posted 17 January 2023 Well colour me completely unsurprised: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/17/motonormativity-britons-more-accepting-driving-related-risk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 Only here in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 10 hours ago, marbles said: Only here in the US “MAH RIGHTS” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 10 hours ago, marbles said: Only here in the US I like the fact the issue is it was undeclared, not that someone was bringing a weapon designed to destroy vehicles on a flying vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 10 hours ago, marbles said: Only here in the US What in God's name is that? There's no way an ordinary citizen needs that. It's like an anti tank missile. I know the good folk of the US argue about the right to be armed to defend themselves, a pistol or rifle is one thing, but surely that's extreme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 Keep cake away from office, suggests food watchdog head https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64315384 'She argued that being around cake in the office was like passive smoking, which though not identical also inflicted harm on others.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 I hate the whole bring cakes into the office on your birthday shit, same as bring back sweets or shit from your holidays. Just go to work do your job and fvck off home. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 21 minutes ago, LiberalFox said: Keep cake away from office, suggests food watchdog head https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64315384 'She argued that being around cake in the office was like passive smoking, which though not identical also inflicted harm on others.' This has got to be satire surely? Society is so wretched and stupid at present I really can't tell. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 18 January 2023 Share Posted 18 January 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, LiberalFox said: Keep cake away from office, suggests food watchdog head https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64315384 'She argued that being around cake in the office was like passive smoking, which though not identical also inflicted harm on others.' It's not allowed now but, standing in a room full of poisonous B&H fumes, isn't remotely similar to Doris in the office bringing in a Victoria sponge 🙄 Edited 19 January 2023 by FoyleFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo61 Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 9 hours ago, FoyleFox said: It's not allowed now but, standing in a room full of poisonous B&H fumes, isn't remotely similar to Doris in the office bringing in a Victoria sponge 🙄 Has anyone actually read the article. Her observation is that's it's becoming an every day occurrence in some offices and that has serious health implications for the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 Sounds like professor Susan Jebb should work on her self control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 10 minutes ago, Robo61 said: Has anyone actually read the article. Her observation is that's it's becoming an every day occurrence in some offices and that has serious health implications for the nation. It's probably just that it seems a poor comparison. You can say no to the cake. You couldn't say no to the smoke, going back to the days of smoking in offices. Having worked in places when smoking was allowed in the office, you couldn't avoid it. Same with pubs, planes and cinemas etc. I did however, avoid many cakes when in the office. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 3 minutes ago, FoyleFox said: It's probably just that it seems a poor comparison. You can say no to the cake. You couldn't say no to the smoke, going back to the days of smoking in offices. Having worked in places when smoking was allowed in the office, you couldn't avoid it. Same with pubs, planes and cinemas etc. I did however, avoid many cakes when in the office. I can’t imagine what it would have been like having an office with people smoking! Just seems madness, but presumably the norm then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 28 minutes ago, Tommy G said: I can’t imagine what it would have been like having an office with people smoking! Just seems madness, but presumably the norm then People smoked everywhere, so I suppose it didn't seem strange. Imagine checking in for your flight and being asked smoking or non-smoking now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 30 minutes ago, FoyleFox said: People smoked everywhere, so I suppose it didn't seem strange. Imagine checking in for your flight and being asked smoking or non-smoking now! I can’t read this without thinking of the joke from Airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo61 Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 1 hour ago, FoyleFox said: It's probably just that it seems a poor comparison. You can say no to the cake. You couldn't say no to the smoke, going back to the days of smoking in offices. Having worked in places when smoking was allowed in the office, you couldn't avoid it. Same with pubs, planes and cinemas etc. I did however, avoid many cakes when in the office. While I agree it's not a perfect comparison, the report highlighted the fact that the vast majority of people can't so no for many psychological reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 1 minute ago, Robo61 said: While I agree it's not a perfect comparison, the report highlighted the fact that the vast majority of people can't so no for many psychological reasons. Ah, but there is a school of thought that suggests that the individual human is completely sovereign, has the capacity to make decisions with total freedom, and so such psychological reasons aren't relevant - or if they are, it's solely the fault of the individual involved and not anyone else. Total cobblers, of course. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 In other news, Jacinda Ardern is standing down as NZ leader. Unfortunate but she has had a great run. Also, the actor Julian Sands is reported missing in California after bad weather there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 4 minutes ago, leicsmac said: In other news, Jacinda Ardern is standing down as NZ leader. Unfortunate but she has had a great run. Also, the actor Julian Sands is reported missing in California after bad weather there. The Julian Sands story does not sound good… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 39 minutes ago, leicsmac said: In other news, Jacinda Ardern is standing down as NZ leader. Unfortunate but she has had a great run. Also, the actor Julian Sands is reported missing in California after bad weather there. A real shame as she generally came across so well and as a progressive force for good. How many world leaders over the years have retired due to burn out? Most cling on to power until the bitter end. I think the 2 terms max in the US should be universal. 8 years to get shit done and leave it ready to hand over to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 1 hour ago, Robo61 said: While I agree it's not a perfect comparison, the report highlighted the fact that the vast majority of people can't so no for many psychological reasons. It's not that they can't, it's just difficult and when temptation is sitting right there and you are stressed tired and fed up and there is a sugar fix staring you in the face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 19 January 2023 Share Posted 19 January 2023 I didn't expect that to generate quite so many responses I think my serious take is that it's definitely not the same as passive smoking. Passive smoking is so bad because you can't decide to breathe your own air and that makes it unfair for people to smoke around others. On the other hand there's an interesting discussion to be had around etiquette and boundaries. So essentially our social behaviours are governed by two competing paradigms, one is the concept of our individual boundaries and the other is the concept of etiquette. Actually there's a third issue and that's how we react when we are stressed. Our boundaries are the way we choose to respond to a situation based on our own beliefs and values. Etiquette on the other hand is a usually unwritten (although it could also be written) form of social contract that sets out what is reasonable and expected behaviour. When we are stressed we tend to react impulsively based on learned patterns of behaviour. Many of us have become conditioned to consume unhealthy food as a way to cope or soothe ourselves. So the issue really is that 'cake culture' can become a form of etiquette. It's expected that one brings cake or sweets into the office on a birthday or after a holiday. Not doing this could earn a negative label of being miserly, unfun or sanctimonious. Perhaps refusing to eat these foods could be taken as a rejection. Likewise if we're prone to emotional eating and we work in an office where there is cake lying around all day then it can feel like our own boundaries are being pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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