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Posted
Just now, Jattdogg said:

Dust the military boots off and be on standby lol

 

LOL. Reporting for duty Sir.

 

Serious question: should I stay away from raising this topic with US-based Canadians I know? Is it too sensitive, or will they think the situation is as unfathomably ridiculous as it seems to everyone else?

Posted
2 hours ago, Bilo said:

At some stage, like him or not, there has to be the admission that he knows what he's doing.

 

He was the Shadow Brexit minister of a failed Corbyn-led Labour Party five years ago and I shudder to think what odds you'd have got on him ever becoming PM.

 

He then won the Labour leadership election, completely outclassed the Corbynite left, went in hard on Partygate against Johnson when people thought it was just Westminster chat and destroyed him and then went on to win a landslide election victory after seeing off Truss and Sunak.

 

You don't have to love the guy to see him as a clever, strategic and shrewd operator.

I loathed Corbyn and his leadership. Still do. He lost two general elections, a Brexit referendum, and left millions of vulnerable people at the mercy of the worst Tory government of all time. And still won't take responsibility for it. Ideology-obsessed taxpayer-funded activist rather than a competent leader/MP. Zero achievements in 40 years and the weirdest, culty fanbase. An absolute ****. 

I was overjoyed when Starmer won the leadership. A highly successful and esteemed career in public service. Driven by pragmatism and not ideology. Clearly very highly skilled and highly competent. I knew he had a mountain to climb thanks to Corbyn but I strongly believed he could get Labour back into election-winning territory within the next two elections. His handling of Johnson and Partygate was absolutely masterful. Truss was an utter humiliation from start to finish and Sunak was a dead duck. You can blame the Tory meltdown or COVID all you want but to overturn the worst result in modern history and delivering one of the strongest mandates in Labour's history is an incredible achievement that must be respected. He makes mistakes and I'm not a fan of some policies or decisions but he clearly knows what he's doing.

 

People continue to underestimate him but as far as I'm concerned he is exactly the sort of person we need as PM at such a dangerously volatile time. 

 

The fact that he winds up the Corbynites and Tory/Reform people so much at the same time is just an added bonus.

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Posted
41 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

LOL. Reporting for duty Sir.

 

Serious question: should I stay away from raising this topic with US-based Canadians I know? Is it too sensitive, or will they think the situation is as unfathomably ridiculous as it seems to everyone else?

IMO any self-respecting Canadian no matter where they live will always be Canada first. If they aren't,  they aren't real Canadians anymore lol.

 

I know several Canadians who have moved to the states and go on about opportunity and how Canada is archaic. Perhaps in some ways but well, there are reasons. Enjoy America you tossers and renounce your Canadian citizenship if you feel so strongly!

 

Always a few EH!

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Posted
6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

I loathed Corbyn and his leadership. Still do. He lost two general elections, a Brexit referendum, and left millions of vulnerable people at the mercy of the worst Tory government of all time. And still won't take responsibility for it. Ideology-obsessed taxpayer-funded activist rather than a competent leader/MP. Zero achievements in 40 years and the weirdest, culty fanbase. An absolute ****. 

I was overjoyed when Starmer won the leadership. A highly successful and esteemed career in public service. Driven by pragmatism and not ideology. Clearly very highly skilled and highly competent. I knew he had a mountain to climb thanks to Corbyn but I strongly believed he could get Labour back into election-winning territory within the next two elections. His handling of Johnson and Partygate was absolutely masterful. Truss was an utter humiliation from start to finish and Sunak was a dead duck. You can blame the Tory meltdown or COVID all you want but to overturn the worst result in modern history and delivering one of the strongest mandates in Labour's history is an incredible achievement that must be respected. He makes mistakes and I'm not a fan of some policies or decisions but he clearly knows what he's doing.

 

People continue to underestimate him but as far as I'm concerned he is exactly the sort of person we need as PM at such a dangerously volatile time. 

 

The fact that he winds up the Corbynites and Tory/Reform people so much at the same time is just an added bonus.

I mean that’s all well and good but the metrics that will actually see how he’s judged are still going in the wrong direction. I have no doubt that underneath the political clothes, Starmer is a good, moral man but as a country we’re screwed and no PM is going to be able to fix that without making incredible structural changes to the way this country is run. 

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Posted

Why do people believe that Russia is going to agree to a ceasefire that involves British troops (aka NATO) being placed in Ukraine? Surely the prime minister isn’t that naive? 

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Posted
47 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Why do people believe that Russia is going to agree to a ceasefire that involves British troops (aka NATO) being placed in Ukraine? Surely the prime minister isn’t that naive? 

All this is horse trading, even more so with Trump at the table, so as long as it is transactionally acceptable (And allows relevant face saving) then I can see it happening

Posted
48 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Why do people believe that Russia is going to agree to a ceasefire that involves British troops (aka NATO) being placed in Ukraine? Surely the prime minister isn’t that naive? 

They won't and he isn't. It's a negotiating tactic. Trump has said that US would protect UK troops if needed. That's a backstop in all but name.

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2 minutes ago, blabyboy said:

They won't and he isn't. It's a negotiating tactic. Trump has said that US would protect UK troops if needed. That's a backstop in all but name.

Protect them from what though? Because Russia won’t attack the UK soil and the UK won’t send troops to Ukraine, because there won’t be a ceasefire if it’s planned that we do.

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Protect them from what though? Because Russia won’t attack the UK soil and the UK won’t send troops to Ukraine, because there won’t be a ceasefire if it’s planned that we do.

That may or may not be the case, but until the situation has formed up, you need to keep all options available and in-play. If you take it off the table too early then it narrows the options, perhaps in a direction you do not want to go.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Not sure why this scum bag won his appeal, when the Judge agreed with his sentence.  So he ended up spending 3 nights in prison for a sustained attack on someone already on the ground and then told police a pack of lies to try and blame the victim.  Wow.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yy0116y8o

 

 

 

 

And continues on full pay for the pleasure of it all 

Posted (edited)

My assumption is that trump is going to try and manipulate the U.K. as a means to influencing what the eu does.  The EU is a large issue for him and we are but a large pimple.   is he going to force us into choosing between the states and europe?   if we avoid tarrifs and the EU doesn’t (presumably with reciprocity), how will that play out - especially in Ireland.  It’s intriguing. 

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Posted
11 hours ago, Super_horns said:

BBC in a bit of bother about a documentary they made and weren’t aware of the relatives and what connections they had to HAMAS.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3374xm65mvo.amp

One of the young people in the film is the son of Ayman Al-Yazouri, deputy minister of agriculture for Hamas (the government). 

There is no evidence that Ayman Al-Yazouri is a Hamas soldier or of any wrongdoing on either part (the BBC or Hamas) and apparently no money was passed onto Hamas. 

The film is hard hitting and has been initially criticized by a group of 45 Jewish journalists (allegedly) and by Israel - they obviously don't want the horror of the occupation and bombing to be shown. 

There are also hundreds of prominent Jews supporting the release of the film and condemning the BBC for pulling it from iPlayer.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Not sure why this scum bag won his appeal, when the Judge agreed with his sentence.  So he ended up spending 3 nights in prison for a sustained attack on someone already on the ground and then told police a pack of lies to try and blame the victim.  Wow.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yy0116y8o

 

 

 

 

Because he didn’t use harsh language 🤷‍♂️ 

Posted
5 hours ago, blabyboy said:

They won't and he isn't. It's a negotiating tactic. Trump has said that US would protect UK troops if needed. That's a backstop in all but name.

A promise not worth the hot air that formed the words

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International Development Minister Anneliese Dodds has resigned over the prime minister's cuts to the aid budget.

In a letter to Sir Keir Starmer,, external Dodds said the cuts to international aid, announced earlier this week to fund an increase in defence spending, would "remove food and healthcare from desperate people - deeply harming the UK's reputation".

She told the PM she had delayed her resignation until after his meeting with President Trump, saying it was "imperative that you had a united cabinet behind you as you set off for Washington".

The Oxford East MP, who attended cabinet despite not being a cabinet minister, said it was with "sadness" that she was resigning.

She said that while Sir Keir had been clear he was not "ideologically opposed" to international development, the cuts were "being portrayed as following in President Trump's slipstream of cuts to USAID".

Posted
35 minutes ago, davieG said:

International Development Minister Anneliese Dodds has resigned over the prime minister's cuts to the aid budget.

In a letter to Sir Keir Starmer,, external Dodds said the cuts to international aid, announced earlier this week to fund an increase in defence spending, would "remove food and healthcare from desperate people - deeply harming the UK's reputation".

She told the PM she had delayed her resignation until after his meeting with President Trump, saying it was "imperative that you had a united cabinet behind you as you set off for Washington".

The Oxford East MP, who attended cabinet despite not being a cabinet minister, said it was with "sadness" that she was resigning.

She said that while Sir Keir had been clear he was not "ideologically opposed" to international development, the cuts were "being portrayed as following in President Trump's slipstream of cuts to USAID".

Fair play to her, acted on her conscience, rare to see. 

Posted

So they gave some idiot influencers some binders about the Epstein stuff which turns out not to have anything relevant in them after all. They know what they are doing trying to get people angry about it when they know full well they either won’t release anything or it’s already been got rid of and they will blame the fbi or Biden for it. ( who possibly could have done but more likely something trump would do ) when bondi said she had it on her desk to review I’m pretty sure she would have known there wasn’t anything new they could release so just trying to get people ready to kick off when they probably never had anything to start with 

Posted (edited)

Damn, Trump telling Zelenskyy that the US is now a neutral country is the war and that Ukraine is losing. Awful.

 

This press conference is an absolute disaster

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