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Was reading an article on BBC Football last night talking about a £50m investment in Wrexham, and how apparently the club is valued at c. £300m.

 

The world's gone mad if anyone in their right mind thinks that valuation correctly reflects their potential and position in the pyramid.

 

I get the marketing pull with their ownership who are doing an incredible job to build up the hype around the club and increase revenue, along with the fact that currently they have a lot of PSR headroom which if they continued on a linear trajectory would help them enormously.

 

However, it just feels like the hype bubble could burst at any moment, especially if they stall, miss the the playoffs then end up having a few years in the Championship around midtable flirting with the playoffs. Suddenly their wage bill will start to catch up with them, as the previous year's drop off the PSR calculations and the outlook will be a very different one to that of today. 

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2 hours ago, ian__marshall said:

Was reading an article on BBC Football last night talking about a £50m investment in Wrexham, and how apparently the club is valued at c. £300m.

 

The world's gone mad if anyone in their right mind thinks that valuation correctly reflects their potential and position in the pyramid.

 

I get the marketing pull with their ownership who are doing an incredible job to build up the hype around the club and increase revenue, along with the fact that currently they have a lot of PSR headroom which if they continued on a linear trajectory would help them enormously.

 

However, it just feels like the hype bubble could burst at any moment, especially if they stall, miss the the playoffs then end up having a few years in the Championship around midtable flirting with the playoffs. Suddenly their wage bill will start to catch up with them, as the previous year's drop off the PSR calculations and the outlook will be a very different one to that of today. 

With Wrexham the interest is tied to their owners, the commercial interest would leave with them so any valuation is based on something intangible.

 

Our valuation would be hobbled by our debt but any owner would be a buying a club that has proof of concept finishing the top 6. Really we should be quite an easy sell (disregarding Top's lack of will) as we don't lack any fundamentals, it's just owner competence we don't have.

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Just now, jammie82uk said:

 


https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/37435-fans-forumroverstorecommercial-chat/page/174/

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Macron’s deal is up at the end of this season. As of April 2025 Rovers were allowed to talk to other suppliers, but not before. As part of the deal Macron also have matching bid rights (they have to be told what any new offer is and be given the opportunity to match it).

That’s the facts, but just MAYBE the following happened…

MAYBEWaggott had been talking to adidas, largely due to Gary Aspden. MAYBE It was off the record but it got very clear they were very keen around October 2024.

MAYBE Suhail got wind of Waggott talking to adidas and tried to tell him that Yasir would be doing the kit deal and not him. MAYBE Waggott told him no, as he had the relationship with Gary and subsequently with adidas.

MAYBE As a result Suhail got in a strop and went off talking to Castore, and told Waggott to forget about adidas and that we’d be going with Castore “to keep the Issa brothers onside”.

MAYBE Suhail then went to Macron to tell them he was negotiating a really good deal with Castore, so they would need to put in a much improved deal. And MAYBE Macron went mad as this broke the exclusivity agreement and MAYBE threatened legal action.

MAYBE Waggott was planning on flying to Italy to smooth things over with Macron but eventually did it on the phone, but MAYBE they chilled out a bit. MAYBE Waggott explained the local connection to adidas and that they would be offering loads of things macron couldn’t match (Spezial kit, boot deal, exhibition at Ewood, new club shop, Spezial trainers). MAYBE Macron accepted that couldn’t be matched.

In April they opened up to tender. MAYBE Macron, adidas and Castore put in. MAYBE Macron and Castore both offered an upfront payment - basically a guarantee of 400k, rather than an extra payment. MAYBE Suhail went to adidas and asked them to match it, MAYBE they said they don’t offer guarantees to anyone, not even Man Utd or Real Madrid - they just sell lots of kits.

MAYBE Suhail then went back and told Macron they were going with Castore - MAYBE Macron said they wanted to keep Rovers and offered to match Castore. MAYBE Suhail’s response was “No you should’ve offered us more in the first place. We are going with Castore.”

MAYBE Adidas were not getting good vibes since Waggott left, but MAYBE Suhail then reapproached adidas asking for a half million upfront payment to “buy out macron” - effectively pay them off cos they will sue. MAYBE Adidas reiterated their stance of no upfront payments - MAYBE Suhail said “Well Castore are willing to pay the legal fees”.

So MAYBE Macron are seeking compensation for 2 separate breeches of contract.

Castore have bought out Umbro and need clubs for their second brand. MAYBE we’ve agreed to being Umbro with off the peg kits slightly Roverized.

 

Thank god we aren't that level of incompetent (yet)

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Derby continuing their very strong away form 

 

Not so good at home - I mean we beat them there !

The are unquestionably the worst team we've faced (over a home/away aggregate) in at least 13 years. 

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37 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

**** me this is depressing. Derby still attacking when they're leading. Weird. 

 

And their fans are really noisy as well. Weird.

 

Hate football.

Yeah it is weird, imagine playing well and winning and not drastically changing the way you're playing.  Maybe this will catch on.

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1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

No way Derby go up. 
They look even worse than us and that’s saying something. 

You joking I think there have been excellent second half certainly jealous of there display 

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