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Jon the Hat

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4 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

I hate videos like that, politics is so.more complicated, hence why I belive were fooooked

Your average Labour, Tory or Lib Dem voter also couldn't name a key policy, and the Greens only because they are a single-issue party.  Politics is about feel as much as facts, as daft as that is.

Jon the Hat

Jon the Hat

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3 hours ago, Tommy G said:

I wonder why this thing isn’t shut down..

Largely because it is an important cultural event, and the overall crime rate for the weekend is lower than say a music festival.  Crime is concentrated in one place, not actually much higher than a normal weekend.

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The Year Of The Fox

The Year Of The Fox

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3 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Largely because it is an important cultural event, and the overall crime rate for the weekend is lower than say a music festival.  Crime is concentrated in one place, not actually much higher than a normal weekend.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/glastonbury-festival-reported-crimes-arrests-10307985

 

145 crime reports

31 arrests

 

Over a 5 day period. 

 

 

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Jon the Hat

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42 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/glastonbury-festival-reported-crimes-arrests-10307985

 

145 crime reports

31 arrests

 

Over a 5 day period. 

 

 

With about 10% of the numbers, costing hundreds of pounds to get in.  For the million plus people who attend Notting Hill Carnival, compared to the usual crime rates in London, it's really not that bad.  What violent crime there is usually involves existing gangs kicking off, which they do at other times as well.

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FoxesDeb

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9 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdj7lnx40xo

 

Only 423 arrests this time round. Just 46 folk carrying knives. 18 sex offences and 2 stabbings. Result 

 

I can only imagine the headlines and uproar if this had been an England away trip. 
 

Edit- I forgot about the 11 guns too

I think the headlines would more likely focus on England taking around 2 million away if the two events are being compared

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Zear0

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Not sure how many have been to the carnival, but the objective of a large proportion of attendees is to get as absolutely wrecked as possible. Behaviour at the thing has been horrendous for decades. Comparing it to Glastonbury is laughable. 

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Trav Le Bleu

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5 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Largely because it is an important cultural event, and the overall crime rate for the weekend is lower than say a music festival.  Crime is concentrated in one place, not actually much higher than a normal weekend.

Also, facial recognition cameras were used, which suggests to me that a lot of the people arrested weren't actually arrested for what they did there, but we're known criminals being picked up for previous offences.

 

Seems like a good idea to lure out stupid perps and get them all in one easy to trawl up place.

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bovril

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1 hour ago, FoxesDeb said:

I think the headlines would more likely focus on England taking around 2 million away if the two events are being compared

Leeds took more

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ftfagos

ftfagos

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47 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

The painting roundabouts thing is proper oddball behaviour, what a weird place we live in

If it encourages people to drive round ‘em rather than over then I’m all for it. 

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Tommy G

Tommy G

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1 hour ago, Samilktray said:

The painting roundabouts thing is proper oddball behaviour, what a weird place we live in

Same with the St George flags - Hinckley at the weekend looked like we were in the World Cup Final. 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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I think that an issue with all this is that it's difficult to say who is doing it in the name of patriotism, and who is doing it in the name of nationalism. 

 

Two very different things with very different intents. 

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CosbehFox

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The flags will die down when the villages start saying it's uncouth and it's running our house prices down. 

 

Spent a lot of the weekend in South London. Didn't have a problem all weekend or saw anything until the single drug deal in Pimlico.

leicsmac

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6 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I think that an issue with all this is that it's difficult to say who is doing it in the name of patriotism, and who is doing it in the name of nationalism. 

 

Two very different things with very different intents. 

And the same is true with any overt showing of any flag/symbol - intent, and context, matters. 

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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3 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/glastonbury-festival-reported-crimes-arrests-10307985

 

145 crime reports

31 arrests

 

Over a 5 day period. 

 

 

The ratios of arrest and attendee of events is pretty much the same. Around 0.01% to 0.02%

 

If you use Notting Hill, Glastonbury and say England fans in Amsterdam (2018) when they acted like prats travelling with c10k 

 

Although you have to compare the likely levels of tolerance on cannabis at Notting Hill (70 arrests) compared to Glastonbury and the increased police presence per person. 

 

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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9 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Though having said that I worry the other day that I'd somehow missed a year and England were in the World Cup Final or summat

Womens Rugby World Cup 

RoboFox

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Went to Devon for the bank holiday. Saw a lot of flags, including a Trump one FFS. Some oddball had parked his white van adorned with Union Flags and the slogan "Starmer and his cronies out" at the side of the A303.

 

Pretty weird hobby IMO. 

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