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OUT - Soumare - AC Milan

By Sly, in Transfer Talk

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Sol thewall Bamba

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He's been here 4 seasons (not counting his loan) and we've been relegated in 2 of them and at our lowest eb in 18 years in another. 

 

"There's a player in there" though apparently. 

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Miquel The Work Geordie

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10 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

He’s not even the worst signing at the club right now lol probably not even in the bottom 3. 
 

Daka, skipp easily ahead of him and carranza looks like the worst player we’ve had since Ryan mcgiven. 

 

Daka is shite but he has been a better signing all told than this lardarse.

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Finnegan

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2 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Daka is shite but he has been a better signing all told than this lardarse.

 

You've got to be an idiot or on the troll to claim Bouba has been a better signing overall than Daka. 

 

They've both been terrible signings but there's levels. 

 

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LCFCJohn

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On 02/12/2025 at 09:33, alanyoung said:

In 2021 after finishing 5th in the league for the second consecutive season and after winning the FA Cup we made four signings to give us the firepower to get to the UCL...

 

BERTRAND

DAKA

SOUMARE

VESTERGAARD

 

Let that level of incompetence sink in...

I want the 3 of those still at the club out as much as anyone. It’s shocking we still have Vestergaard until 2027.

 

But for balance, hindsight is a wonderful thing. You look at the threads on this forum for Daka and Soumare when they signed and everyone was buzzing. I maintain the signings weren’t the problem as not all signings work out. The problem has been the money involved. Transfer fee wise, did Salzburg and Lille see us coming? Probably. But wages is the key thing. We have clearly been offering players too higher starting wage here rather than them earning it from contributions here (like Vardy and Schmeichel). Had we not given them such high wages, we likely could have moved them on part way through their contracts when it was clear they weren’t working. Possibly the amortisation of the transfer fees as well but mainly wages.

 

Bertrand. Again, he was seen as a smart free signing having just lost Fuchs. To be fair, the club should have done due diligence on the fact he was, by that point, after a final wage, despite the fact he had been a solid player earlier in his career. The salary offered again was criminal. But the signings from a fans point of view (without being privvy to the finances) has some merit.

 

Vestergaard is the one on that list where I think the whole fan base were pissed off, given we know the money we paid. £15mill, the wages we paid and then offering him an extension on top has been shocking business for a terrible player. 
 

The link here has been wages as that is what has left us stuck with these duds. We had such bargaining power at our peak. I can’t believe we felt it was necessary to essentially not negotiate and just give in to all demands….

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Jon the Hat

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On 02/12/2025 at 17:33, alanyoung said:

In 2021 after finishing 5th in the league for the second consecutive season and after winning the FA Cup we made four signings to give us the firepower to get to the UCL...

 

BERTRAND

DAKA

SOUMARE

VESTERGAARD

 

Let that level of incompetence sink in...

130 Full international caps there.  None of them belonging to Soumare.

Danizen

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On 02/12/2025 at 09:33, alanyoung said:

In 2021 after finishing 5th in the league for the second consecutive season and after winning the FA Cup we made four signings to give us the firepower to get to the UCL...

 

BERTRAND

DAKA

SOUMARE

VESTERGAARD

 

Let that level of incompetence sink in...

Daka and Soumare looked like good signings. The other two are completely unforgivable. 

Stuntman_Mike

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3 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I would be surprised if he’s actually injured and not just taking time off before forcing a loan through in Jan 

The lad gets more rest from starting.

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Dan

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On 02/12/2025 at 09:33, alanyoung said:

In 2021 after finishing 5th in the league for the second consecutive season and after winning the FA Cup we made four signings to give us the firepower to get to the UCL...

 

BERTRAND

DAKA

SOUMARE

VESTERGAARD

 

Let that level of incompetence sink in...

We seem to have our worst windows at our best and best windows at our worst.

 

The biggest farce of this is the fact three of those four are still here and I've no doubt Bertrand would be too if he hadn't retired. If you drew up some comparisons from other clubs it would make for hilarious reading and puts into context how absurd this is.

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16 minutes ago, Dan said:

We seem to have our worst windows at our best and best windows at our worst.

 

The biggest farce of this is the fact three of those four are still here and I've no doubt Bertrand would be too if he hadn't retired. If you drew up some comparisons from other clubs it would make for hilarious reading and puts into context how absurd this is.

Looking at some clubs 2021/22 windows.

 

Everton: Demarai Gray, Begovic, Andros Townsend, Dele Alli

Aston Villa: Danny Ings, Calum Chambers
Arsenal: Nuno Tavares, Albert Sambi Lokonga, Tomiyasu

Crystal Palace: Odsonne Edouard

 

I've specifically picked out signings who made little impact in the season we had that window. That's the timescale you're looking at - what we do is equivalent to if these clubs were still reliant on those players in nearly 2026. It's completely preposterous.

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Md9

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Just get rid already. We all know this will go on until the end of the window nothing will happen and will got for free when his contract is up 

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moore_94

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They made pretty decent offers for him before that we stupidly rejected and now gonna get him for fvck all

 

Rudkin-nomics

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coolhandfox

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4 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

They made pretty decent offers for him before that we stupidly rejected and now gonna get him for fvck all

 

Rudkin-nomics

At this point just get his wages off the wage bill.

 

Issue is we have around 3.4m of amortisation left on his value for this years so they are bound to want that or more.

 

I think the best we can hope for is a loan fee and he wages paid for.

 

 

 

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moore_94

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At this point just get his wages off the wage bill.

 

Issue is we have around 3.4m of amortisation left on his value for this years so they are bound to want that or more.

 

I think the best we can hope for is a loan fee and he wages paid for.

 

 

 

Soumare, Daka, and Winks are just gonna end up on loans like Perez aren’t they

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coolhandfox

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1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

Soumare, Daka, and Winks are just gonna end up on loans like Perez aren’t they

More than likely.

 

I see any income we can get for a loan fee and a someone else paying their wages a bonus.

 

I can't see how we let those 3 go with bring in at least 1 CM and 1 CF 

 

 

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kingfox

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We’d be crazy to let him go, time to reintegrate him so he can help improve our distance covered statistic.

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