The "do they mean us?" thread

[Facecloth]

its not important that they lose. we are 5 points clear. we don't rely on them losing.

At the end of the day, you can think what you like. Just don't call me daft for not having a loser mentality.

How is it a loser mentality to want to shake off your nearest rival as soon as possible? You think an f1 driver would rather the one behind him kept chasing him or retired? We're not relying on them no, but it would be better if they did lose so it's still important, there's still plenty of points to play for.

[ScouseFox]

This is hands down one of the best pointless arguments in FT history.  How you both are still going is beyond me.  Top work.

 

shhh let them get on with it. it's been going for nearly 8 hours now and it's literally got more confusing 

[Facecloth]

shhh let them get on with it. it's been going for nearly 8 hours now and it's literally got more confusing

That was Gerard that started it 8 hours ago, I only came on as a sub two hours ago.

[Carl the Llama]

shhh let them get on with it. it's been going for nearly 8 hours now and it's literally got more confusing 

As always you're right, sorry.

 

If you're worrying about other teams' results you're a massive paranoid cvnt but if you're not concerned with the results of teams behind us in the table you're a massive stupid cvnt.  Discuss.  FIGHT!

[Jordan]

Spuds.

[leicsmac]

As always you're right, sorry.

 

If you're worrying about other teams' results you're a massive paranoid cvnt but if you're not concerned with the results of teams behind us in the table you're a massive stupid cvnt.  Discuss.  FIGHT!

 

It's amazing. Pure entertainment.

 

[Renart]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35858944

[Leicester_Numan]

Stoke fans think there is an FA conspiracy to hand us the title

That all stems from the original match fixing crap from a few weeks ago. You see how easily idiots believe it and how easily it spreads.

[Carl the Llama]

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/255420/leicester-win-premiership Seem pretty chill with it on the most part.

[teblin]

The pessimist in me agrees with Quinn, but also pundits and myself have been waiting for this bubble to burst for a long time.

We have sustained this form over 41 games let's hope we can make it 48.

[Buce]

From the Oatcake:

"Nothing but this pathetic British tabloid trait of setting up people to fail and moaning when some do well. Sad to see on here really and massively insulting towards how good the entire Leicester side have done this season. People said they'd drift off if vardy stopped scoring...he did stop and they didn't drift away...they'd drift offnif mahrez got injured...he did get injured they didn't drift off. Can't people stop looking for bullshit excuses, straws to clutch at and simple give credit where it's due? They've been the most hungry, hard working and consistent team this year playing bloody good football in the process. Fair fvcks to them and well done i say."

Edited 21 March 2016 by Buce

[Ric Flair]

I love Spurs outrage at us, how on earth can they believe that all we ever do is win 1-0 if that was the case how have they only scored about 3 more goals than us? Prats

[teblin]

I work in Stoke and all the guys I've spoken to want us to win it

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Came across this within the comments section in the Guardian this morning - thought it was quite good!

Four mates of mine and I went to a clairvoyant before the season began to save ourselves from the emotional roller coaster that comes with the uncertainty of a league campaign. We were all told not to tell each other what we learnt from our sessions. Surprisingly though, we all came out happy.

Myself being an Arsenal fan was told a Puma Kitted team was going to win the league so I had no doubt that would be us considering the other Puma kitted teams in the league were relegation certs and a troubled club.

My United mate was told the United youth Programme was going to yield Premier league Champions so he came out all smiles.

My City mate was told City were winning the title to her delight.

My Chelsea mate was told by the clairvoyant with a smile on her face that a team in their shade of blue would lift the title but she wouldn't mention a name. He knew she definitely meant Chelsea but was trying her best to be coy.

My Liverpool mate was told a team whose name contained 9 letters and began with an 'L' would lift the title. He was so glad; it was finally going to be their year.

[Babylon]

I love Spurs outrage at us, how on earth can they believe that all we ever do is win 1-0 if that was the case how have they only scored about 3 more goals than us? Prats

Spurs have scored 0 goals in a game 6 times, and 1 goal in a game 8 times.

2 goals in a game 8 times and 3 goals in a game 5 times.

 

Leicester have scored 0 goals in a game 3 times, and 1 goal in a game 11 times.

2 goals in a game 9 times and 3 goals in a game 7 times.

 

They have had far more low scoring games than us this season, they just had 4 high scoring games that make up all that difference.

[suffolk fox]

All we have to do from here on in is to match Spurs results for the last seven games we will then be crowned champions ......simples.

[davieG]

http://www.football365.com/news/leicester-play-three-chords-and-the-truth?

 

Leicester play three chords and the truth

Date published: Monday 21st March 2016 10:28

Every day I look at the Premier League table and I can’t believe it. Leicester and Spurs at the top. If it doesn’t put a jolt of electric pleasure into your football soul, then I feel sorry for you.

Everything about Leicester is challenging the football orthodoxies established in the wake of Barcelona’s 2008 side. I know we all think we’re so post-modern and weary about everything these days – but their success is so brilliant, unexpected and thrilling. There should be no seeking to decry it, no tempering of it, not one ounce of joy not celebrated because football is about being thrilled to your core and this season, Leicester City, as unlikely as it absolutely is, have thrilled me to my core in a way that few sides in the last 25 years have and I know I’m far from the only one. It feels wonderful and I can’t remember the last time English football made me feel wonderful. It is washing away decades of cynicism and sourness. It is nothing less than a total reboot of English football.

In hindsight, the biggest clubs got lazy and thought money could do all their work. So they bought expensive players and expected success. How shocking this season must be to those with that mentality and in truth, of course, that is also part of the thrill of 2015/16. Watching the likes of Chelsea, United et al, failing, has the same joy of schadenfreude as watching a pompous Tory getting jailed. How the mighty have fallen. You thought you were made for life, thought yourself superior and grew fat on privilege. Bye bye, pal.

Well, the Foxes are a reminder of what we used to call rock ‘n’ roll football. Like all fine bands, they are greater than the sum of their parts and are playing the football equivalent of three chords and the truth. Simple, direct, effective, committed. A big keeper, two huge slabs of defensive man meat, a midfield disrupter, a mercurial genius and a run-all-day whippet. It’s an old-fashioned mixture, common to many sides in the 60s, 70s and 80s. but decidedly retro-modern in the 21st century. It goes against all prevailing league-winning templates and of course that’s another reason it is so thrilling. If you’re under 35 you might never have seen a side play like this and it must look like some flavour of exotic. A modern update of an old classic movie, perhaps.

Created to be both exciting and successful, it has made the old-fashioned 21st century style purveyed by the likes of Arsenal and the rest of the big clubs look stale and, at times, very laboured. How long will it be before we see Arsene Wenger, ever the follower of trends, rather than the leader (pasta consumption aside) tries to play the same way? Too many clubs have spent an awful lot of time and money on short-arse midfielders, believing every game is won there. Well it’s not if you by-pass it with a long ball, is it? Ha. Wonderful. The world turned upside down. You don’t need a tactics truck to understand what is going on.

This season has shown how top English clubs have forgotten how to play simple, effective football and have tried to evolve their game into some sort of higher art form. Somewhere along the way, they got turned in on themselves and believed in their own innate primacy. Simple and direct wasn’t good enough for them. That’s why it’s so wonderful to see a Leicester defender boot it long for Jamie Vardy to chase after, beat the opposition to the ball and bear down on their goal. It makes a mockery of all the ‘death by football’ Brendans. Nah, we don’t do that, we just kick long to the pigeon-chaser. It’s so brilliant. And you know what? It looks wonderful too. It beautifully marries art and industry. The speed and dynamism as they take off from their own half is so exciting. And you can see opposition sides all season long have struggled to deal with it. Well, why wouldn’t they? No-one has played like this against them.

How refreshing, how wonderful to see this level of commitment and energy replace the more usual careful build-ups which showed off how many consecutive passes you can do.

All over the pitch, Leicester have returned football to the basics. A massive keeper, big heavyweight defenders who can lash it out of the ground, one hard-faced midfielder who breaks stuff up, and one who is creative; add in a little genius up front and a lot of pace. It is irresistible and it isn’t successful for no reason. It’s successful because it’s hard to play against. Simple is the hardest thing to do well and Leicester do simple well. They have played an out-scoring game this season and now they’re playing an out-defending game.

Perhaps if this had been achieved by a young, fashionable manager and their way of playing had a unique German or Italian name it would be seen as a new level of sophistication, but make no mistake, it is no less revolutionary for being the product of an unfashionable East Midlands club managed by a loveable elderly Italian.

These are the sunny uplands of a new spring dawn and the warmth it has invested in us will not be easily forgotten.

John Nicholson

[mazarron fox]

Absolutely great article, I put something similar but shorter on the deluded cock website and got a threatening PM back asking me to kill myself .

[kushiro]

Loved that. He really captures what's so special about us. His prose style even has the same cadence as a Mahrez dribble - seems like the sentence is stuttering to a halt but somehow he comes out the other side with his eloquence still intact.

Edited 21 March 2016 by kushiro

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

Garth Crooked has put Morgan and Mahrez in his team of the week

 

Still felt the need to put a dig in there with no relevance

 

 

However, it was only a matter of time before the Algeria international crashed through Palace's defences and put Leicester on course for the biggest football upset since Nottingham Forest won the title under Brian Clough.

The comparison is a little premature I admit, as Leicester haven't won anything yet under Claudio Ranieri, but Mahrez does have the same flair, speed and thirst for goals as Trevor Francis did in a Forest shirt. That said, I have no intention of putting money on Leicester winning the Champions League anytime soon.

 

Reads as "Haven't won anything yet and won't be that impressive if they do"

[HighPeakFox]

Superb

[yorkie1999]

http://www.football365.com/news/leicester-play-three-chords-and-the-truth?

 

Leicester play three chords and the truth

Date published: Monday 21st March 2016 10:28

Every day I look at the Premier League table and I can’t believe it. Leicester and Spurs at the top. If it doesn’t put a jolt of electric pleasure into your football soul, then I feel sorry for you.

Everything about Leicester is challenging the football orthodoxies established in the wake of Barcelona’s 2008 side. I know we all think we’re so post-modern and weary about everything these days – but their success is so brilliant, unexpected and thrilling. There should be no seeking to decry it, no tempering of it, not one ounce of joy not celebrated because football is about being thrilled to your core and this season, Leicester City, as unlikely as it absolutely is, have thrilled me to my core in a way that few sides in the last 25 years have and I know I’m far from the only one. It feels wonderful and I can’t remember the last time English football made me feel wonderful. It is washing away decades of cynicism and sourness. It is nothing less than a total reboot of English football.

In hindsight, the biggest clubs got lazy and thought money could do all their work. So they bought expensive players and expected success. How shocking this season must be to those with that mentality and in truth, of course, that is also part of the thrill of 2015/16. Watching the likes of Chelsea, United et al, failing, has the same joy of schadenfreude as watching a pompous Tory getting jailed. How the mighty have fallen. You thought you were made for life, thought yourself superior and grew fat on privilege. Bye bye, pal.

Well, the Foxes are a reminder of what we used to call rock ‘n’ roll football. Like all fine bands, they are greater than the sum of their parts and are playing the football equivalent of three chords and the truth. Simple, direct, effective, committed. A big keeper, two huge slabs of defensive man meat, a midfield disrupter, a mercurial genius and a run-all-day whippet. It’s an old-fashioned mixture, common to many sides in the 60s, 70s and 80s. but decidedly retro-modern in the 21st century. It goes against all prevailing league-winning templates and of course that’s another reason it is so thrilling. If you’re under 35 you might never have seen a side play like this and it must look like some flavour of exotic. A modern update of an old classic movie, perhaps.

Created to be both exciting and successful, it has made the old-fashioned 21st century style purveyed by the likes of Arsenal and the rest of the big clubs look stale and, at times, very laboured. How long will it be before we see Arsene Wenger, ever the follower of trends, rather than the leader (pasta consumption aside) tries to play the same way? Too many clubs have spent an awful lot of time and money on short-arse midfielders, believing every game is won there. Well it’s not if you by-pass it with a long ball, is it? Ha. Wonderful. The world turned upside down. You don’t need a tactics truck to understand what is going on.

This season has shown how top English clubs have forgotten how to play simple, effective football and have tried to evolve their game into some sort of higher art form. Somewhere along the way, they got turned in on themselves and believed in their own innate primacy. Simple and direct wasn’t good enough for them. That’s why it’s so wonderful to see a Leicester defender boot it long for Jamie Vardy to chase after, beat the opposition to the ball and bear down on their goal. It makes a mockery of all the ‘death by football’ Brendans. Nah, we don’t do that, we just kick long to the pigeon-chaser. It’s so brilliant. And you know what? It looks wonderful too. It beautifully marries art and industry. The speed and dynamism as they take off from their own half is so exciting. And you can see opposition sides all season long have struggled to deal with it. Well, why wouldn’t they? No-one has played like this against them.

How refreshing, how wonderful to see this level of commitment and energy replace the more usual careful build-ups which showed off how many consecutive passes you can do.

All over the pitch, Leicester have returned football to the basics. A massive keeper, big heavyweight defenders who can lash it out of the ground, one hard-faced midfielder who breaks stuff up, and one who is creative; add in a little genius up front and a lot of pace. It is irresistible and it isn’t successful for no reason. It’s successful because it’s hard to play against. Simple is the hardest thing to do well and Leicester do simple well. They have played an out-scoring game this season and now they’re playing an out-defending game.

Perhaps if this had been achieved by a young, fashionable manager and their way of playing had a unique German or Italian name it would be seen as a new level of sophistication, but make no mistake, it is no less revolutionary for being the product of an unfashionable East Midlands club managed by a loveable elderly Italian.

These are the sunny uplands of a new spring dawn and the warmth it has invested in us will not be easily forgotten.

John Nicholson

 

http://www.football365.com/news/leicester-play-three-chords-and-the-truth?

 

Leicester play three chords and the truth

Date published: Monday 21st March 2016 10:28

Every day I look at the Premier League table and I can’t believe it. Leicester and Spurs at the top. If it doesn’t put a jolt of electric pleasure into your football soul, then I feel sorry for you.

Everything about Leicester is challenging the football orthodoxies established in the wake of Barcelona’s 2008 side. I know we all think we’re so post-modern and weary about everything these days – but their success is so brilliant, unexpected and thrilling. There should be no seeking to decry it, no tempering of it, not one ounce of joy not celebrated because football is about being thrilled to your core and this season, Leicester City, as unlikely as it absolutely is, have thrilled me to my core in a way that few sides in the last 25 years have and I know I’m far from the only one. It feels wonderful and I can’t remember the last time English football made me feel wonderful. It is washing away decades of cynicism and sourness. It is nothing less than a total reboot of English football.

In hindsight, the biggest clubs got lazy and thought money could do all their work. So they bought expensive players and expected success. How shocking this season must be to those with that mentality and in truth, of course, that is also part of the thrill of 2015/16. Watching the likes of Chelsea, United et al, failing, has the same joy of schadenfreude as watching a pompous Tory getting jailed. How the mighty have fallen. You thought you were made for life, thought yourself superior and grew fat on privilege. Bye bye, pal.

Well, the Foxes are a reminder of what we used to call rock ‘n’ roll football. Like all fine bands, they are greater than the sum of their parts and are playing the football equivalent of three chords and the truth. Simple, direct, effective, committed. A big keeper, two huge slabs of defensive man meat, a midfield disrupter, a mercurial genius and a run-all-day whippet. It’s an old-fashioned mixture, common to many sides in the 60s, 70s and 80s. but decidedly retro-modern in the 21st century. It goes against all prevailing league-winning templates and of course that’s another reason it is so thrilling. If you’re under 35 you might never have seen a side play like this and it must look like some flavour of exotic. A modern update of an old classic movie, perhaps.

Created to be both exciting and successful, it has made the old-fashioned 21st century style purveyed by the likes of Arsenal and the rest of the big clubs look stale and, at times, very laboured. How long will it be before we see Arsene Wenger, ever the follower of trends, rather than the leader (pasta consumption aside) tries to play the same way? Too many clubs have spent an awful lot of time and money on short-arse midfielders, believing every game is won there. Well it’s not if you by-pass it with a long ball, is it? Ha. Wonderful. The world turned upside down. You don’t need a tactics truck to understand what is going on.

This season has shown how top English clubs have forgotten how to play simple, effective football and have tried to evolve their game into some sort of higher art form. Somewhere along the way, they got turned in on themselves and believed in their own innate primacy. Simple and direct wasn’t good enough for them. That’s why it’s so wonderful to see a Leicester defender boot it long for Jamie Vardy to chase after, beat the opposition to the ball and bear down on their goal. It makes a mockery of all the ‘death by football’ Brendans. Nah, we don’t do that, we just kick long to the pigeon-chaser. It’s so brilliant. And you know what? It looks wonderful too. It beautifully marries art and industry. The speed and dynamism as they take off from their own half is so exciting. And you can see opposition sides all season long have struggled to deal with it. Well, why wouldn’t they? No-one has played like this against them.

How refreshing, how wonderful to see this level of commitment and energy replace the more usual careful build-ups which showed off how many consecutive passes you can do.

All over the pitch, Leicester have returned football to the basics. A massive keeper, big heavyweight defenders who can lash it out of the ground, one hard-faced midfielder who breaks stuff up, and one who is creative; add in a little genius up front and a lot of pace. It is irresistible and it isn’t successful for no reason. It’s successful because it’s hard to play against. Simple is the hardest thing to do well and Leicester do simple well. They have played an out-scoring game this season and now they’re playing an out-defending game.

Perhaps if this had been achieved by a young, fashionable manager and their way of playing had a unique German or Italian name it would be seen as a new level of sophistication, but make no mistake, it is no less revolutionary for being the product of an unfashionable East Midlands club managed by a loveable elderly Italian.

These are the sunny uplands of a new spring dawn and the warmth it has invested in us will not be easily forgotten.

John Nicholson

The old adage KISS. Keep it simple stupid.

[atomicfox]

Radio five have a Leicester piece just about to start if you're near a radio.

[Ric Flair]

Spurs have scored 0 goals in a game 6 times, and 1 goal in a game 8 times.

2 goals in a game 8 times and 3 goals in a game 5 times.

Leicester have scored 0 goals in a game 3 times, and 1 goal in a game 11 times.

2 goals in a game 9 times and 3 goals in a game 7 times.

They have had far more low scoring games than us this season, they just had 4 high scoring games that make up all that difference.

Thanks for that pal, I'll be using this to bait them.

[Danizen]

http://www.football365.com/news/leicester-play-three-chords-and-the-truth?

 

Leicester play three chords and the truth

Date published: Monday 21st March 2016 10:28

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Every day I look at the Premier League table and I can’t believe it. Leicester and Spurs at the top. If it doesn’t put a jolt of electric pleasure into your football soul, then I feel sorry for you.

Everything about Leicester is challenging the football orthodoxies established in the wake of Barcelona’s 2008 side. I know we all think we’re so post-modern and weary about everything these days – but their success is so brilliant, unexpected and thrilling. There should be no seeking to decry it, no tempering of it, not one ounce of joy not celebrated because football is about being thrilled to your core and this season, Leicester City, as unlikely as it absolutely is, have thrilled me to my core in a way that few sides in the last 25 years have and I know I’m far from the only one. It feels wonderful and I can’t remember the last time English football made me feel wonderful. It is washing away decades of cynicism and sourness. It is nothing less than a total reboot of English football.

In hindsight, the biggest clubs got lazy and thought money could do all their work. So they bought expensive players and expected success. How shocking this season must be to those with that mentality and in truth, of course, that is also part of the thrill of 2015/16. Watching the likes of Chelsea, United et al, failing, has the same joy of schadenfreude as watching a pompous Tory getting jailed. How the mighty have fallen. You thought you were made for life, thought yourself superior and grew fat on privilege. Bye bye, pal.

Well, the Foxes are a reminder of what we used to call rock ‘n’ roll football. Like all fine bands, they are greater than the sum of their parts and are playing the football equivalent of three chords and the truth. Simple, direct, effective, committed. A big keeper, two huge slabs of defensive man meat, a midfield disrupter, a mercurial genius and a run-all-day whippet. It’s an old-fashioned mixture, common to many sides in the 60s, 70s and 80s. but decidedly retro-modern in the 21st century. It goes against all prevailing league-winning templates and of course that’s another reason it is so thrilling. If you’re under 35 you might never have seen a side play like this and it must look like some flavour of exotic. A modern update of an old classic movie, perhaps.

Created to be both exciting and successful, it has made the old-fashioned 21st century style purveyed by the likes of Arsenal and the rest of the big clubs look stale and, at times, very laboured. How long will it be before we see Arsene Wenger, ever the follower of trends, rather than the leader (pasta consumption aside) tries to play the same way? Too many clubs have spent an awful lot of time and money on short-arse midfielders, believing every game is won there. Well it’s not if you by-pass it with a long ball, is it? Ha. Wonderful. The world turned upside down. You don’t need a tactics truck to understand what is going on.

This season has shown how top English clubs have forgotten how to play simple, effective football and have tried to evolve their game into some sort of higher art form. Somewhere along the way, they got turned in on themselves and believed in their own innate primacy. Simple and direct wasn’t good enough for them. That’s why it’s so wonderful to see a Leicester defender boot it long for Jamie Vardy to chase after, beat the opposition to the ball and bear down on their goal. It makes a mockery of all the ‘death by football’ Brendans. Nah, we don’t do that, we just kick long to the pigeon-chaser. It’s so brilliant. And you know what? It looks wonderful too. It beautifully marries art and industry. The speed and dynamism as they take off from their own half is so exciting. And you can see opposition sides all season long have struggled to deal with it. Well, why wouldn’t they? No-one has played like this against them.

How refreshing, how wonderful to see this level of commitment and energy replace the more usual careful build-ups which showed off how many consecutive passes you can do.

All over the pitch, Leicester have returned football to the basics. A massive keeper, big heavyweight defenders who can lash it out of the ground, one hard-faced midfielder who breaks stuff up, and one who is creative; add in a little genius up front and a lot of pace. It is irresistible and it isn’t successful for no reason. It’s successful because it’s hard to play against. Simple is the hardest thing to do well and Leicester do simple well. They have played an out-scoring game this season and now they’re playing an out-defending game.

Perhaps if this had been achieved by a young, fashionable manager and their way of playing had a unique German or Italian name it would be seen as a new level of sophistication, but make no mistake, it is no less revolutionary for being the product of an unfashionable East Midlands club managed by a loveable elderly Italian.

These are the sunny uplands of a new spring dawn and the warmth it has invested in us will not be easily forgotten.

John Nicholson

Football365 took a bit of a kicking on this forum last week and the quality has dropped off over the last couple of years in search of clicks but John Nicholson is the reason I started reading that website. He's a great writer. I'm not just saying that because he's saying nice things about us. Over the years, almost every single one of his features/opinion pieces have been top quality.