Leicester City v Burnley post match thread 2 - 2

[Dickov22]

That was abit embarrassing on MOTD. No idea what kasper was thinking and as for the 53 less sprints stat, I think it explain alot. Can't be arsed to work against lower teams. Our egos have gotten ahead of us again.

I think the lack of sprints was because we had more possession, and had to be more patient with the ball than we did against Man U. Strange stat to highlight for me.

[BlackburnClaret]

Our egos have gotten ahead of us again.

Not just on the pitch, clearly.

[Larry_LCFC]

Not just on the pitch, clearly.

What are you still doing here? Like a wasp at a picnic.

[BlackburnClaret]

Love it here. Some genuinely nice footy loving folk here.

[kingfox]

Schlupp still getting criticised here and there, despite scoring & playing an instrumental part in the second goal. He also made some other good forward runs, linked up decently well & unlike Hammond & Drinkwater in the middle, actually won a few headers. 

 

Schlupp isn't the best player around, and never will be; however he was one of the better performers today. His finishing is pretty poor at times, but he offers a lot more than fans realise, he can get forward well while he offers much better support to Konchesky. Against Everton him coming on as a sub made us go up a gear, he also put in decent shifts against Chelsea & Arsenal, not forgetting he did set up Ulloa's goal against Arsenal with a good cross. 

 

Schlupp is underrated, I'd take him over the likes of Knockaert anyday. 

[st albans fox]

Sums this place up - two different opinions is unanimous????

[Thracian]

Not at all impressed. We had the pace and ability to win today's game by a distance but, once we got 2-1 ahead we went into the dreadful mode of trying to see out the game which has cost us so often in the past. Why do we do it?

 

I predicted a draw for some of the reasons that materialised. But even with our shortcomings we could have held 2-2 had King been on the field because there's no way King would have given away such a clumsy late foul to cost us two points.

 

There were other mistakes too. Schlupp's goalscoring returning to the side - with Mayrez on the right getting a goal and assist - recovered so much of the balance that was lost last week. So why take Mayrez off and lose that balance together with so much of our attacking ambition and potential?

 

Since King was relegated to the subs bench we've taken one point from six against ordinary opposition and not looked anything like the energetic, accurate and efficient side we showed ourselves to be in our opening games.

 

Our workrate was nothing like what it was and partly because King was so efficient in those early fixtures, so accurate with his passes, so quick to move the ball on and so encouraging to those who might make a run. 

 

Some might be satisfied with nine points from seven games but it really should have been 12 at the least and we can't afford to go giving points away for nothing and failing to sustain our commitment for 90 minutes. This sitting on leads just has to stop and more especially when there's absolutely no reason for it.  .  

[orangecity23]

Not at all impressed. We had the pace and ability to win today's game by a distance but, once we got 2-1 ahead we went into the dreadful mode of trying to see out the game which has cost us so often in the past. Why do we do it?

 

I predicted a draw for some of the reasons that materialised. But even with our shortcomings we could have held 2-2 had King been on the field because there's no way King would have given away such a clumsy late foul to cost us two points.

 

There were other mistakes too. Schlupp's returning to the side recovered so much of the balance that was lost last week - and the lad himself was rewarded with a goal and an assist. So why take him off and lose that balance together with so much of our ambition, our potential and our ability to cover quickly?

 

Since King was relegated to the subs bench we've taken one point from six against ordinary opposition and not looked anything like the energetic, accurate and efficient side we showed ourselves to be in our opening games.

 

Our workrate was nothing like what it was and partly because King was so efficient in those early fixtures, so accurate with his passes, so quick to move the ball on and so encouraging to those who might make a run. 

 

Some might be satisfied with nine points from seven games but it really should have been 12 at the least and we can't afford to go giving points away for nothing and failing to sustain our commitment for 90 minutes. This sitting on leads just has to stop and more especially when there's absolutely no reason for it.  .  

Thrach - what are you on about here - Schlupp played the full 90 minutes today, he wasn't taken off at all!

[trabuch]

He must be thinking of Mahrez. Who did have a goal and an assist and got taken off.

[Thracian]

Thrach - what are you on about here - Schlupp played the full 90 minutes today, he wasn't taken off at all!

 

 

He must be thinking of Mahrez. Who did have a goal and an assist and got taken off.

 

 

Indeed - and since corrected.

[PerfumePonce]

I feel Schlupp never seems to use his pace enough when on the ball. I don't know if that's because he isn't able to sprint when he has it but in the game today he had a few chances where there was space in front of him where he could of ran with it but he chose to pass back to Konchesky.

I wish he'd do more bursting sprints forward with the ball like Vardy does but I guess that'd mean losing the ball a lot more so I guess it's a good thing that he's passing - I just don't think he uses his pace enough.
 

[benpicko]

Played poorly two matches in a row against weaker sides than we've beat

[foxinsox]

Schlupp needs to resist long distance shots, but did well today.

Towards the end Schlupp and Knockheart changed sides, and it was Knokhearts poor defending that led to their second goal.

Mahrez looked good first half, but was very poor in the second. He was visibly flagging and needs to get his fitness up.

If all our players were as fit as King, it would be a very fine thing indeed!

[glenelgfox]

Frustrating game! Had enough chances to win but seemed happy to sit back in 2nd half content with our 1st 45 mins. We we ran at pace at their defence we looked good but we didn't seem to grasp that concept enough.

Schlupp finally got a shot that didn't hit the second tier of the stands and he looked ok in patches but needs to use his pace and think a bit better re when to cross and not try and beat his defender every time because his success rate is poor in that regards.

Ulloa had a poor game - too slow on the ball and your key striker needs to be in the box to offer a target for when we do whip the ball in. Too often he was ball watching outside the area and that reduced our target options when we got a decent cross in.

Again have to question NP's subs decisions - I would have left Mahrez on personally. A player at that level shouldn't be buggered after 60 mins or so. What did Knocky offer us - nil but to be fair he looked match rusty. His set piece / corners frustrate - slow looping crosses don't cut it at the top level. In fact our whole team needs to look at their final delivery from outside. Too often we can't get the ball over the first defender.

Nugent looked slow when he came on and got caught a few times not delivering a quality pass or cross but again to be fair we didn't seem to have players who sensed any urgeny to get into positions to offer attacking options.

I knew when they got they free from where Kaspar was positioned he would slot it and sure enough 2 points lost.

Last 2 games have shown that we can lack creativity and urgency for long periods of games and NP needs to address that worrying aspect of our game. A few on here have questioned fitness in seeing out games and really that is not acceptable at this level for highly paid pros as is lack of urgency.

[foxes_rule1978]

We were sh*te it seems Cambiasso is a big loss, he really grips the midfield and can easily turn defence into attack, played like a championship side no more today.. burnley are complete rubbish as well and are guaranteed to finish bottom. Annoyed

[Dan]

Kasper is a good shot stopper and also good in 1v1 situations (a bit like his father) but where he's sadly lacking is his ability to command his box and I am beginning to believe that he is at the root of our defence's inability to deal with set pieces and crosses in general.

 

Morgan and Moore have proved to be steady central defenders but I think that they lack confidence when the ball is crossed in and this is due to the fact that Kasper is little more than a 'blow-football keeper' as he patrols across his line and rarely comes to take crosses with any degree of confidence. He remains a good keeper at Championship level but he lacks the stature of his father and I fear that he will only ever be an average premiership keeper (his distribution and general kicking game seems to be getting worse too).

 

The team were poor all-round today and never did enough to put the game to sleep when they had the opportunities but there's no doubt that Kasper was badly at fault for both goals. I am tired of seeing his 'starfish' jump - he looked like he could have picked up the first situation before the shot even came in had he been more assertive and as others have said his positioning for the second was woeful - looking on from SK3 all the guy had to do was to get the ball over the wall and there was no way that Kasper could make up that ground. He needs to dominate his six yard box and rarely does!

 

Fully agree with this. I've always said that. We've never been anything other than poor from set pieces when we've had Schmeichel.

 

He's brilliant at some things and poor at others.

[Dan]

Am I the only one thought Drinky played well?

 

Probably. I thought he was pretty mediocre today, though a lot better than last week.

[Dan]

That was abit embarrassing on MOTD. No idea what kasper was thinking and as for the 53 less sprints stat, I think it explain alot. Can't be arsed to work against lower teams. Our egos have gotten ahead of us again.

 

Or because we were playing against a far better and more energetic side. Absolutely nothing in that stat for me.

 

I thought it was more complacency, and impotency at both ends - something that's very uncharacteristic of this season so far.

[VLC86]

Look, we got a point, we never lost did we? What happened to clapping the players off the pitch?

We didn't get promoted expecting anything other than staying up did we? I would still take 17th right now.

Would you say our performance against a team that will do well not to finish bottom indicates we will finish 17th?

[Crinklyfox]

I'm horribly disappointed with the result in a game we should have won.

We should have won because we had the players capable of putting Burnley away. The fact that we didn't is credit to Burnley who never gave up and reflects badly on us. I'm not going to comment on individual performances, there's been a lot of that already. We've dropped two points and that could come back and bite us in May. I expect Burnley to go down, and we were no better than them on the pitch yesterday. So unless we address the deficiencies we'll have a very nervous second half of the season.

I believe that our squad, if they play to their capabilities, can survive in the Premier League. We do, however, have to learn to play more than one way. The attacking style that served us well last season won't always work at this level. Under a bit of pressure top sides close the game down, keep the ball and restrict opportunities for the opposition. We have to learn to do that a bit better if we are going to prosper at this level.

NP has generated a good team spirit and I see a lot of confidence in the team. Hopefully he can use the disappointment of Palace and Burnley as a motivator for Newcastle. I wouldn't want to see three sub-standard performances in a row.

[AyewJoking]

Disgusting. 2 points thrown away.

 

Just need to forget about this ASAP. 

[foxfanazer]

Disappointed with that! Don't think we were tgat bad 1st half but 2nd half we lacked any tempo.

Kaspsr should've claimed the ball for their 1st goal and the 2nd was just stupid. Still in a great position though.

On.the plus side it was great to see Mahrez back

[Babylon]

Hamer needs a run of games.

If Joe Hart can get dropped multiple times as England keeper then Kasper needs to for something other than injury and suspension.

I believe Hamer will not only be far more commanding with set plays but improve the defence's confidence too.

And our only clean sheet all season was with Hamer in goal where he made a few outstanding shot stopping saves in the second half, as well as claiming crosses like a proper keeper.

That was a Stoke side that only lost 3/19 at home all last season.

You are bigging up Hamer way too much, Stoke barely managed any shots on target. First half he fumbled several shots and catches.

[harpendenfox]

History suggests you need 36/7 points to survive in the Prem. We are a quarter of the way there with two games in hand. That is the only way to view this season. There are no teams we 'should' beat. Every game requires maximum impact from team and fans. That's what I take from yesterday

[Dickov22]

I don't think we should drop Kasper just because of one glaring error. He's the number one, so we stick by him and hope he learns from it. A settled back 4 will be key for us this season.