Daniel Amartey

[Vocey]

Arriving at 5:30 and playing 120 minutes is super impressive. Thought he did well tonight, always takes a while to settle into matches but once he did he grew in confidence. I'd be tempted to start on sunday

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, gcxttle said:

He was brilliant last night, definitely our best right back at the moment. Talk about players having no hunger or desire when Amartey plays 6 games in 18 days in Africa then comes back at 5:30 the morning before a game and plays 120 minutes. Top pro. 

There we go again! Brilliant!

Anja had him on toast in the first. Then Amartey looked more composed after the break.

SO much hyperbole on this forum.

Do people really think these words (legend, awesome, brilliant) or is it just endemic of common parlance?

[Lovejoy]

1 hour ago, lgfualol said:

It's been mentioned before, but man did I not miss Simpson's "distribution" from RB. Amartey didn't shit himself once. 

I think the same can be said of all the back four last night, which was refreshing. In Simpson's defence, he's the only one of the usual back four who can still run, but all the same he offers nothing going forward. 

 

I think Amartey is quietly becoming an asset to us. I'm still not sure though whether he'll be a defender or midfielder and I hope that doesn't hinder his career.

[foxfanazer]

I pretty much didn't notice him last night which for our defenders this season is high praise

 

Not his natural position but did his job for the most part. Not gonna keep Simpson out of the team even though he's been useless recently

[Finnaldo]

4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

There we go again! Brilliant!

Anja had him on toast in the first. Then Amartey looked more composed after the break.

SO much hyperbole on this forum.

Do people really think these words (legend, awesome, brilliant) or is it just endemic of common parlance?

 

He arrived back from Africa at 5:30 this morning.

 

I'm not sure why you have to be so standoffish about it, the first choice CB pairing & RB has been totally dreadful this season and hoof it at almost every opportunity, Benny & Amartey showed composure on the ball and we actually played it out of defence positively, and whilst showing some rust it's to be expected from a player who's made 10 appearances in 2 years and someone who'd only been in the country for 14 hours.

 

The defence's shakiness has caused the rest of the team to look over their shoulders and make up for them. Last night they were half competent and that meant the midfield had some time for creatvity and the forward line could progress forward. Voila! We scored three, could have has two penalties and could have had their keeper sent out. Even against a weak Derby side that's massive progress to what we've been served up this year.

 

You moaned about me asking fans to have an optimistic outlook on the situation the other day and now you're being petty at others for the same reason. If you want to think that everything is not good enough and that we're as good as done in the league then fair enough Col, but don't get funny with other fans for having a little faith in the tide turning just so you can say how right you were two months down the line  

Edited 9 February 2017 by Finnaldo

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, Finnaldo said:

 

He arrived back from Africa at 5:30 this morning.

 

I'm not sure why you have to be so standoffish about it, the first choice CB pairing & RB has been totally dreadful this season and hoof it at almost every opportunity, Benny & Amartey showed composure on the ball and we actually played it out of defence positively, and whilst showing some rust it's to be expected from a player who's made 10 appearances in 2 years and someone who'd only been in the country for 14 hours.

 

The defence's shakiness has caused the rest of the team to look over their shoulders and make up for them. Last night they were half competent and that meant the midfield had some time for creatvity and the forward line could progress forward. Voila! We scored three, could have has two penalties and could have had their keeper sent out. Even against a weak Derby side that's massive progress to what we've been served up this year.

 

You moaned about me asking fans to have an optimistic outlook on the situation the other day and now you're being petty at others for the same reason. If you want to think that everything is not good enough and that we're as good as done in the league then fair enough Col, but don't get funny with other fans for having a little faith in the tide turning just so you can say how right you were two months down the line  

No mate, the issue for me is always one of extremes.

After one game, such and such a player is labelled on here as 'awesome, amazing, as good as..... etc'

Then of course, they have a few bad games, and suddenly there are 'shite, not fit to wear the boots, gotta go' etc.

Its childish really, I guess. It's like a ten year old would talk.

Amartey, last night, was given the runaround by Anja in the first half. It happened. There's no point saying it didn't. Then, he got his bearings, didn't stand so square on, and Anja had short shrift in the second half.

Thus, Amartey was ok. On no account was he 'excellent, brilliant or exceptional (pick your word of choice here).

I just like to keep it as real as I can.

The problem with Amartey is that it is still unclear where his best position lies. He's not an orthodox RB, I don't see him as a CM ( if he plays midfield he's got to be a DM) and Ranieri don't seem to want to chuck him in at CB for some reason?

[foxes21]

we really don't need someone with Simpson's skillset right now. What we need is a calm, composed presence that can keep the ball, set up attacks and be an outlet too. I think Amartey can be this player, so for me he starts Vs Swansea.

[AmarteyAndChill]

New contract please. 

[Guest Col city fan]

4 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

we really don't need someone with Simpson's skillset right now. What we need is a calm, composed presence that can keep the ball, set up attacks and be an outlet too. I think Amartey can be this player, so for me he starts Vs Swansea.

I would agree with you on this (although does Simpson have much of a 'skill-set', he can't pass for shite). 

Id be happy with Amartey having a run in the side at RB. We just need to be solid defensively and Amartey at RB looks ok to me. It isn't his natural position, but he looks solid enough.

Edited 9 February 2017 by Col city fan

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Beast. 

[M0901]

2 hours ago, Leamington Fox said:

I thought Amarty was really excellent at RB.  He also impressed me going forward.  He's a very good player.  He starts for me on Sunday at RB or CB with Morgan.  Huth should be dropped.

Spot on. Even in extra time he was making surging runs overlapping Albrighton. Huge credit to him.

[Babylon]

I think you can get away with two non ball playing centre backs if you have full backs who aren't afraid to play the ball. Having the three there when low on confidence just means the ball gets passed across the line and belted out. I think we'd be far better with Amartey right back (as an attacking force). It's just whether he's up to it defensively at the moment as he's been shifted all over the place.

[Ted Maul]

2 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Anja had him on toast in the first.

I'm not sure he did to be honest. Anja saw a lot of the ball and tried to get past Amartey a lot, but didn't have a huge amount of luck- he had to track back most of the time. Granted, he found some space on the counter.

 

The only time I can remember Anja properly skinning his man and getting to the byline in space was when Wasyl's legs decided not to move 

[crazyleicester]

His ex manager at club level thinks he will be a monster, Ghana rave about him too. However, the facts are that this is a dude who recently turned 22 and has moved from Africa aged 18 to Sweden, a year later moved to Denmark for two years before continuing his football journey with us. He is only just got over 100 career league games and has been played in 3 or 4 positions by the clubs he has played for.

 

Give the lad time and I think we will have a player here too. I dont know which position he`ll end up but once we pick a position for him and he matured into that role I think we may have a player on our hands. 

 

As for yesterdays performance, well Anya ripped him a new one in the first half. Amartey was solid going forward popping up in the opps box to get a header in and linking up with our more offensive players by actually getting over the half way line and pass the ball on the deck, something that Simmo is incapable of doing. However Simmo is a very decent defender. His headers at the back post, decent tackling and holding the line. Unfortunately Amartey is scared to tackle which isnt great for a defensive player  He did it in midfield where he got into some great covering positions and I was shouting and him to stick his leg out and attempt to win the ball but he never did and he did exactly the same yesterday with Anya where Big Dan used his positioning and pace superbly and Anya never got away from him but once he got there he never attempted to challenge. Its a real weird thing in his game where he thinks getting there and forcing a player to make a decision is what defending is! Bloody challenge Dan!

 

Anyway, he is another rough diamond who can go either way but I reckon he has all the attributes to make a decent right back but needs some improvement and a run in the side.

[Wymsey]

He just needs to be stronger when tackling, he sometimes appears to wimp out of some when he knew he could've done.

 

I would choose him as RB ahead of Simpson as he could help the CB's alongside him.

[Facecloth]

Thought Amartey was world class* last night!

 

*Just using that term to piss off Col

[deejdeej]

6 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Thought Amartey was world class* last night!

 

*Just using that term to piss off Col

World class is an understatement, phenomenon springs to mind. Maybe the best defender I've ever seen!

 

On a serious note he played well, haven't read the last few pages but did anyone else notice he looked a lot less chunky too?

[psychonaut]

He looks very competent going forward, looks comfortable on the ball and good in the tackle, it's his positioning or lack there of that might be a concern at RB. To be fair to Simpson his positional sense has been quite good defensively and I think that's one of the reasons why he did so well last season. It's a probably one of the most vulnerable positions - positionally! on the pitch. If Amartey can increase his positional awareness as a RB then I don't see why he couldn't go on and make it his own he has all the other attributes required.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Singled out before the African Nations as one of the main problems and reasons behind our poor form, turns out we were probably worse without him, another steady player and was fine last night, I'd play him instead of Simpson.

[OllieLodge96]

I'm glad people have stopped slating him now. We missed him more than we missed Mahrez and Slimani in my opinion

[Max Power]

Ballon d'Or winner 2018 nailed on

[polarbear]

1 hour ago, Col city fan said:

No mate, the issue for me is always one of extremes.

After one game, such and such a player is labelled on here as 'awesome, amazing, as good as..... etc'

Then of course, they have a few bad games, and suddenly there are 'shite, not fit to wear the boots, gotta go' etc.

Its childish really, I guess. It's like a ten year old would talk.

Amartey, last night, was given the runaround by Anja in the first half. It happened. There's no point saying it didn't. Then, he got his bearings, didn't stand so square on, and Anja had short shrift in the second half.

Thus, Amartey was ok. On no account was he 'excellent, brilliant or exceptional (pick your word of choice here).

I just like to keep it as real as I can.

The problem with Amartey is that it is still unclear where his best position lies. He's not an orthodox RB, I don't see him as a CM ( if he plays midfield he's got to be a DM) and Ranieri don't seem to want to chuck him in at CB for some reason?

Yes and you were always banging he drum that he was complete rubbish. 

[HoustonFox]

I'm really not sure about who I'd want to play right back on Sunday. 

 

Amartey did pretty well last night (is that ok Col? ?) but I think he is a CB who can sort of RB....didn't we used to have one of those, one who had composure on the ball, but was caught out positionally? Ahem, Hernandez, ahem. 

 

FB and CB are so different, and really need different defensive skills. I think Amartey will be a better CB as he reads the game well and can see it all in front of him, and then he can come in and cover, and nick the ball away or clear it. That's his real skill set. FB defensively is about tracking, covering, moving forward, and recovery, as well as more last ditch stuff in my opinion. Not Amartey's strong suits. 

 

So dilemma is:

 

Simpson - better full back defensively, but atrocious on the ball, and couldn't pass the salt with knocking it on the floor, even if you were sat next to him 

 

or

 

Amartey - way more competent on the ball, and gives some confidence of helping is play nice football, but not a real RB, who has some positional fragility. 

 

Who do Swansea have left mid? Montero? Quick, skillful, pacey winger. I might go Simpson, but shift Amartey over. If Lllorente is up top for them, I would pair Amartey/Benny with Huth, for his strength and height over Morgan. 

[Koke]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

No mate, the issue for me is always one of extremes.

After one game, such and such a player is labelled on here as 'awesome, amazing, as good as..... etc'

Then of course, they have a few bad games, and suddenly there are 'shite, not fit to wear the boots, gotta go' etc.

Its childish really, I guess. It's like a ten year old would talk.

Amartey, last night, was given the runaround by Anja in the first half. It happened. There's no point saying it didn't. Then, he got his bearings, didn't stand so square on, and Anja had short shrift in the second half.

Thus, Amartey was ok. On no account was he 'excellent, brilliant or exceptional (pick your word of choice here).

I just like to keep it as real as I can.

The problem with Amartey is that it is still unclear where his best position lies. He's not an orthodox RB, I don't see him as a CM ( if he plays midfield he's got to be a DM) and Ranieri don't seem to want to chuck him in at CB for some reason?

 

He wasn't given the run around by Anya. Anya did Wasilewski once and the other times he just ran into dead ends.

 

Amartey was decent. Composed on the ball and defended well. I barely even noticed him much which is a positive considering how shocking our other defendershave been.

[foxes21]

swansea have been playing gylfi sigurdsson on the left wing of a 4-3-3

Edited 9 February 2017 by foxes21