fuchsntf Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 1 hour ago, foxes21 said: Gary Neville explains why Wilshire was picked ahead of Drinkwater at Euro 2016. http://talksport.com/football/england-squad-shock-gary-neville-reveals-why-danny-drinkwater-was-dumped-favour-jack https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/56auno/gary_neville_reveals_why_danny_drinkwater_was/ Ya take ya pick, makes ya choice and ride the consequences... If Danny had been wearing another badge...he would of gone to the Euros. So this time the consequences were the Proof of incompetence... Logic states you mix form and past Successes.
Tom17LCFC Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 What a muppet. Surely you pick your most in-form players, no?
lgfualol Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 Another example of how shit the England national team setup is.
AKCJ Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 That's an admittance of having a list of favourites and no matter what the rest of the country does, they don't have a prayer. You can't show a bit of form occasionally as a youngster and then be deemed undroppable.
Matt Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 But nothing changes, no matter what management team, the selection policy is the same, why? The FA must have some sort of guidelines to be met with team selection, it's the only logical explanation to me, unless anyone can come up with another idea? Surely all these managers can't think the same way and have the same selection ideas, why does nothing change? Why do none of them have the bollocks to drop the big names from big clubs and pick the 'lesser' players from 'lesser' clubs that are in form? As i've said and keep going on about, Vardy, why the fuck is he there? He's been poor, but no, they've selected him and he knows that he is almost guarenteed a place now, no matter how poor, he is only the tip of the iceberg, others could score numerous OG's and still be selected, but make examples of the poor performing players and rewards the in form, performing players! Before these games then no, you cannot fault Vardy being called up, and i've been pissed off he's not played, because he deserved to, now I can't support his inclusion, because i'd be a hypocrite if I did.
AKCJ Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 10 minutes ago, Matt said: But nothing changes, no matter what management team, the selection policy is the same, why? The FA must have some sort of guidelines to be met with team selection, it's the only logical explanation to me, unless anyone can come up with another idea? Surely all these managers can't think the same way and have the same selection ideas, why does nothing change? Why do none of them have the bollocks to drop the big names from big clubs and pick the 'lesser' players from 'lesser' clubs that are in form? As i've said and keep going on about, Vardy, why the fuck is he there? He's been poor, but no, they've selected him and he knows that he is almost guarenteed a place now, no matter how poor, he is only the tip of the iceberg, others could score numerous OG's and still be selected, but make examples of the poor performing players and rewards the in form, performing players! Before these games then no, you cannot fault Vardy being called up, and i've been pissed off he's not played, because he deserved to, now I can't support his inclusion, because i'd be a hypocrite if I did. If Harry Kane had been fit I'd have been amazed to see Vardy called up. But who else is there?
MrSpaM Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 I'm absolutely baffled as to why the FA would be trying so hard to completely ruin our national team I mean just why, what are they getting out of this other than egg on their faces time and time again when their team of 'favourites' flops out at the first hurdle yet again Needs to be a serious investigation into the way the national team is managed but it just wont happen. Can honestly say I don't give a flying f**k about the national team any more. I wish they'd just drop Vardy so he's not part of this circus act.
Matt Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 12 minutes ago, AKCJ said: If Harry Kane had been fit I'd have been amazed to see Vardy called up. But who else is there? If Harry Kane was fit Vardy would still be there. Deeney? Why not, give him a go. Promote hard work and good form is what i'm saying. We all know Vardy is a hard worker and i'm not saying he isn't, but whether he's carrying an injury or something, I think it's fair to raise an eye brow over his work rate that we know he has so far this season as for form, well he's clearly not in form is he. Look i'm not singling Vardy out, there are many players within the England set up that you need to question and point fingers at before Vardy, but i'm picking on him from a Leicester point of view of that we know the most about.
Wymsey Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 Should've given Charlie Austin a chance or Wilson from Bournemouth.
MrSpaM Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 This is directly from Gary Neville in an interview today " We didn’t pick Danny Drinkwater over Jack Wilshere because we had faith in the ability of Jack Wilshere. " So they had more faith in a player that was injured all season and had barely played, than a player that was instrumental in winning the league, won man of the match in his first friendly, and had a great season This makes ZERO sense, and just goes to show how ridiculous the England set up is. Shambles
Matt Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 5 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Should've given Charlie Austin a chance or Wilson from Bournemouth. Good shout after I was slagging him off (Only because I have Long in my fantasy team ) the other week
Dan Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 7 hours ago, foxes21 said: Gary Neville explains why Wilshire was picked ahead of Drinkwater at Euro 2016. http://talksport.com/football/england-squad-shock-gary-neville-reveals-why-danny-drinkwater-was-dumped-favour-jack https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/56auno/gary_neville_reveals_why_danny_drinkwater_was/ We really haven't got a prayer have we. The main reason? We'd do the exact same in Russia if a similar type of scenario came up.
jammie82uk Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 6 hours ago, MrSpaM said: This is directly from Gary Neville in an interview today " We didn’t pick Danny Drinkwater over Jack Wilshere because we had faith in the ability of Jack Wilshere. " So they had more faith in a player that was injured all season and had barely played, than a player that was instrumental in winning the league, won man of the match in his first friendly, and had a great season This makes ZERO sense, and just goes to show how ridiculous the England set up is. Shambles What also made zero sense was this as well “We didn’t pick Mark Noble, even though he might have been in better form than Ross Barkley, because we invested in Ross Barkley. He was our man, he was the person who was the most talented player. He never got a single kick of the ball
Tuna Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 I think The Don made Southgate an offer he couldn't refuse, IE pick Drinky and you'll not be waking up next to a woman the next morning.
ajthefox Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 9 hours ago, foxes21 said: Gary Neville explains why Wilshire was picked ahead of Drinkwater at Euro 2016. http://talksport.com/football/england-squad-shock-gary-neville-reveals-why-danny-drinkwater-was-dumped-favour-jack https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/56auno/gary_neville_reveals_why_danny_drinkwater_was/ That is an absolute disgrace. A lot has been said on here about favourites and us not being a favoured team and frankly I think this forum perpetuates how bad (read anti-Leicester) things are, but that soundbite is genuinely one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in a long time. The fvcking assistant manager of our national team literally saying that they didn't pick two in form players over two out of form players because they had "faith" in their supposed ability. Outrageous, genuinely outrageous. How can he even go on air and try and justify that as sensible decision. What an absolute crock of shite. I've not been big into England for a long time now but that is just criminal. I feel sorry for Drinky, I really really do. He might be injured now, but the euros were the best chance he was ever going to get. He was the CM for the champions and he still lost out to a Jack Wilshere who had barely played all season and a poor Jordan Henderson. No matter what the setup, he should have been in it and he deserves to represent our country. Every young lad dreams of it and he should have been given the chance.
bluefox76 Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 Just seen Rooney will start tomorrow. Joke. Can see why gs is starting Walcott,form player etc. Shame the same rules didn't apply for the Euros. As we would of had two players in the starting eleven. Knobheads. I've said it before and I'll say it again football elitism. If Walcott had a Burnley,palace,hull or even lcfc badge on every week he wouldn't get a look in.
Carl the Llama Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 10 hours ago, foxes21 said: Gary Neville explains why Wilshire was picked ahead of Drinkwater at Euro 2016. http://talksport.com/football/england-squad-shock-gary-neville-reveals-why-danny-drinkwater-was-dumped-favour-jack https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/56auno/gary_neville_reveals_why_danny_drinkwater_was/ After the Big Sam "Rooney plays where he wants" and now this, it's starting to sound like even the men in charge are tired of the system and trying to drop us hints at how much behind-the-scenes interference there is in the hope that somebody with the appropriate authority/profession will finally take the FA to task and spark a change. Or maybe I'm just being hopeful.
Winchesterfox Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 I can see the point of sticking with regular players who are a little below their best form. You have to have some continuity in the side and develop an understanding between players. But picking Wilshere (who hardly played last season and wasn't match fit) over Drinkwater (a fit and in-form player for the title-winning side) was a joke. Decisions like that explain why Hodgson failed at the England job, Neville failed at the Valencia job and England failed in yet another tournament. And why I drive 250 miles to watch Leicester, but can't be bothered to turn on the TV to watch England.
Gazza M Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 I'm an Englishman, but its so sad to say that I don't care if they win. In fact, funny if they don't.
Southcoastfox08 Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 6 minutes ago, Gazza M said: I'm an Englishman, but its so sad to say that I don't care if they win. In fact, funny if they don't. Had a lot a mates who decided to **** England off after the 2010 world cup, but i stuck with them. This is the first time I can say that I don't care anymore. Neville's comments are laughable. Drinky has been brilliant for more than 12 months, is a premier league winner and if I'm right, got man of the match when he started for England. Wilshere has been below average for this whole period and more. As for the noble and Barkley comment, this is worse. Someone else said it-BARKLEY DIDNT EVEN GET A KICK AT THE EUROS!!!! WHY TAKE HIM??? The whole thing is an absolute joke. Until something changes, I will be supporting our stars in the internationals, instead of OUR national team.
Ted Maul Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 I was keeping an eye on Wales the other night, and realised I actually wanted them to win. England on the other hand, even at the Euros, I genuinely didn't care. I tried, but I couldn't. I was happy when Iceland beat us. I've realised that I gave up on them a few years ago. I just hate everything England seem to represent these days; elitist snobbery, overpaid & overrated players & staff, the tried & tested (& in most cases, failed) over progressive thinking time after time. Watching Leicester take down the clubs who operate like that last season just compounded how much I dislike them. Roy Hodgson was the highest paid manager in international football FFS. What on earth had he done throughout his career to merit that? We're a joke, and until there's a complete overhaul, we will continue to be a joke.
Domsdad Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 Could this not picking players because they have "invested" in the likes of Barkley,Wilshere etc be more a case of they have gone through set plays, moves, systems etc etc with these players and to bring new players in means they have to go through it all again. I'm not saying I agree, just looking for an answer to why wouldn't England want to pick the form players.
promised land Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 20 hours ago, Tom17LCFC said: Surely you pick your most in-form players, no? That's how everyone but the England management team and FA would do it. You need to be at a trendy top 4 or 5 club, the fact we won the league was a hinderance for the FA. I gave up on the national team after 2010, 6 years on and it seems to have got worse
Wymsey Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 Saturdays aren't the same without league football. Two weeks with these internationals feel too long. Hope the FA etc sort this out as well as introduce some form of winter break.
Matt Posted 8 October 2016 Posted 8 October 2016 2 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Saturdays aren't the same without league football. Two weeks with these internationals feel too long. Hope the FA etc sort this out as well as introduce some form of winter break. No. No winter break and International football should be ****ed off. Simple.
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