Enough is enough!

[limeydale]

29 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

No, it's not - a bad pitch can bring a side down to the lesser sides level - particularly if that side is trying to play on the floor. In that respect, that's a mistake that Ranieri made today, Slimani should have started and we should have played to rough them up more. As for the second sentence - nowhere near true. The pitch can change the dynamic and give the lower league side a chance, but by no stretch of the imagination should that mean that the lower league side should always win

So conversely a good pitch will bring a lesser side up to the greater sides level?

If not, what you're implying is the deck is stacked against all upper level teams playing against lower level teams at their home grounds. Which to me is farcical.

 

Our team played better than Milwall in the first half and seemed to not have trouble with the playing surface, we just couldn't put our chances away.

 I'll go back and look at the replay but I don't remember Milwall playing hoofball which, if as you suggest, they would have been knowing their own pitch was not conducive to playing on the floor.

 As to your Ten man argument I tend to agree.

[foxfanazer]

I'm really worried about how long this mess is going to take to sort out. We have so many players that need moving on but their wages will prove a stumbling block for other clubs. First and foremost Claudio needs to go, sooner the better. We need to get some sort of identity back, we've completely lost sight of what this clubs about. 

 

I think we are dead and buried as far as relegation is concerned so we need to start putting another 4 or 5 year plan together with a new manager at the helm. I know you have your honour and dignity Vichai and Top but you have to do what's best for our club

[foxes67]

I said it in another post.

Most these players don't care now what happens to LCFC as they will just say

to the agents next prem league club please..

Although the FA cup is no longer valued and some people saying pitch is a leveller

Millwall should of beaten out of sight..

I know Lincoln beat Burnley etc etc I don't care what happens in other games.

This team/squad have lost the plot.

A new manager and swift kick up the arse to these overpaid players is needed.

If they don't want to perform or play for us then they should be replaced.

Anybody think these players would relish the battle a Championship season would

bring..me thinks not.

[Gerard]

44 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

If he resigns, wouldn't he lose a hell load of money? If that's the case he's not going to resign is he.

 

There's not a cat in hell's chance he'll resign. He probably knew the likely scenario and thats why he asked for this........................

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/1128916/claudio-ranieri-wants-a-seven-year-contract-as-he-pledges-future-to-leicester/

[FrankieADZ]

if we sack him, we'll lose money but if we  go down we'll lose a hell of a lot more,

 

think either way the club is screwed money wise

[frany104]

The fact he is still manager is a joke. We haven't even looked like scoring a goal never mind loooking like winning a game. He needs to go now for us to stand any chance of staying up. If he stays we won't win another game. Relegation would be an absolute NIGHTMARE financially and with the current situation we have with the over paid players who would want them on these showings!? 

[VIKTOR-LE5]

He said Millwall played with more desire, he's basically says this about every team we play WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY do they, just fvck off Claudio and take the players with you.

[BenTheFox]

It's gotten to the point where I'd literally take anyone over our title winning manager. How sad is that? 

[VIKTOR-LE5]

They can all fvck off i've had enough of the lot of them overpaid cvnts.

 

[dannythefox]

It's goes further than just Ranieri I want Rudkin out and the people around him.The recruitment has cost us big time letting Bigglesworth then Steve Walsh leave at the first sniff from another club is terrible. Walsh is probably the best in the country over the last 4 seasons. We sold Kante straight away first time of asking I mean what other business's would survive if another company got your star employees within a few months? We deserve to fail this season it's our own doing and season ticket holders should get theres free next season paid for by the players. The whole club is in free fall.

[Jattdogg]

2 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

It's gotten to the point where I'd literally take anyone over our title winning manager. How sad is that? 

Trump could work. Get rid of the mexicans, fire players, great post game chats with media and fake news.

[splinterdream]

I try to imagine what would make the owners want to keep Ranieri at the helm; it must be he has a plan and he's explained this plan to them and they believe him. His comments about not FA cup not his top priority, we're the underdogs, it was total nonesense that can only contribute to de-motivate the players. If he says teams are working harder than us and we need to fight and the players aren't responding, he's more or less advertising his inabilities at management

[Koke]

Well Claudio, we were supposed to "react" after the last 7 defeats. Are we gonna react when Sevilla put 5 past us?

 

"We can learn. When a team from League One beats the champions we say why and have to react as soon as possible. We are better than Millwall, but Millwall deserved to win." 

[Kitchandro]

4 hours ago, The Doctor said:

As frustrating as it is - a shit pitch is a massive leveller, as is the feeling of adversary when you go down to 10. People who are acting like we couldn't do a simple job are showing themselves to be comically unaware of football - the sort of band-wagoners we'll happily jettison soon. Frustrating to have gone out, even more so like this, but people acting like it was inconceivable are arrogant to the extreme

Dude, this is bullshit. We need to find a way to beat League 1 sides with 10 men. Anything else is utterly pathetic.

 

They should be fvcking ashamed of themselves.

[Foxxed]

"Yeah, after a mildly promising start, we yet again failed to deliver against these dogshit league one opponents, increasing the adject hopelessness among the fans, players and staff, to the point where we now resemble a psychologically maladjusted military unit set on mass suicide." Ranieri, in his post match motivational interview.

 

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

That's a desperate quote from a desperately pathetic man. We lose so we take their fight? To people seriously buy this rubbish. Please just sack him. 

 

[jim5000]

Ranieri says he needs fighters following the Millwall defeat -

 

“I want to speak again with the players and say we have to fight every match,” said an animated Rainieri. “‘Who wants to fight? Tell me’. I need the soldiers, I need the gladiators, because Millwall, with 10 players, showed they are fantastic gladiators.

“It is strange because last season we won for this, to be more determined than the opponent and play with more heart than the opponent. We could also lose but we would fight every match. I want to see this, the fight until the end.

“This defeat could be good for us because when you lose against a team who fights, you have to say well done to them but why did we lose?”

[China Black]

How can trying to win another trophy not be a top priority? 

[Donut]

4 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

We can now confirm the first team isn't the problem and the manager is. Please leave Claudio because you're position is untenable.

And how can you "confirm" that exactly?

 

No one is blameless in this mess, and suggesting the people who actually play are not to blame is pretty silly too.

[Donut]

1 hour ago, limeydale said:

So conversely a good pitch will bring a lesser side up to the greater sides level?

If not, what you're implying is the deck is stacked against all upper level teams playing against lower level teams at their home grounds. Which to me is farcical.

 

Our team played better than Milwall in the first half and seemed to not have trouble with the playing surface, we just couldn't put our chances away.

 I'll go back and look at the replay but I don't remember Milwall playing hoofball which, if as you suggest, they would have been knowing their own pitch was not conducive to playing on the floor.

 As to your Ten man argument I tend to agree.

He didnt say that at all.

 

Look, im not defending the indefensible as today was diabolical, but a poor pitch will negate the skill advantage the supposed "better" team has over the lesser team.

 

On a good pitch, the skill differential between the two teams should increase.

[splinterdream]

15 minutes ago, jim5000 said:

Ranieri says he needs fighters following the Millwall defeat -

 

“I want to speak again with the players and say we have to fight every match,” said an animated Rainieri. “‘Who wants to fight? Tell me’. I need the soldiers, I need the gladiators, because Millwall, with 10 players, showed they are fantastic gladiators.

“It is strange because last season we won for this, to be more determined than the opponent and play with more heart than the opponent. We could also lose but we would fight every match. I want to see this, the fight until the end.

“This defeat could be good for us because when you lose against a team who fights, you have to say well done to them but why did we lose?”

 

They're not going to fight like warriors when you play down the match and insinuate that players today will have little chance of getting 1st team football.

[foxfanazer]

I know we've witnessed some dross over the years but somehow this has managed to be my least favourite season supporting Leicester. That's even with the amazing trip to Brugge and seeing Champions League football at the KP. I've never seen us look as clueless as this and put up such little fight. We don't demand the best football or even to win games, as Leicester fans the very least we expect is workrate and desire

 

[Hammo]

I'm possibly clutching at straws here but maybe the players are as sick and tired of hearing all this tiresome, turgid "we must fight, we must be concentrate" blah blah blah as we fans are and it just washes over them.

 

I know that's pretty indefensible but in these days of sports psychologists and mind gurus maybe a simple thing like the manager actually making a clear and determined effort to widen and improve his (woefully limited) English vocabulary might actually have an impact on those he is trying to motivate.

 

Put some effort in yourself, Claudio, and you may find it pays dividends. You've become as dull and boring as your team.

[Milo]

3 hours ago, limeydale said:

but people acting like it was inconceivable are arrogant to the extreme

I'm assuming that you've not been watching the abject, pathetic, inept, gutless, woeful piss-poor performances leading up to today, then?

I'm arrogant in the extreme??! What, cos I haven't seen anything recently that suggested that we could win (or even score a goal, ffs) against a 10 man league 1 side? 

[RonnieTodger]

2 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

We keep Ranieri and we go down it's as simple as that. The owners get everything they deserve if they keep him. 

 

Unfortunately for us the owners can sell up at anytime they want & leave.  Us fans will be the one's that will be left with the mess they leave behind. 

 

The contracts that the players have is frightening, we could easily end up in a mess like Portsmouth. 

 

Sack him now and please please give us a slight chance of staying up. 

Exactly.

 

Our only hope of staying up is getting rid. We'll struggle to make 30pts at this rate, nevermind 40.

[Milo]

5 hours ago, The Doctor said:

comically unaware of football - the sort of band-wagoners we'll happily jettison soon

Oh, and I've been a comically unaware band-wagoner for 30 years...