Simi Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 13 hours ago, Steve Earle said: Christ knows what most posters on this forum would have made of great Leicester players like Weller, Worthington, Glover, McAllister, Collymore etc. Every single one of them could have an off day. Every single one of them could look disinterested. And love them as I do, not one was as gifted as the wonderful Mahrez. Simply the most astonishingly talented player I've seen in 50+ years. Mahrez to...stay!?? Agree. Can't believe how many Leicester fans are so quick to jump on the backs of players that have a bad game or run of games. It happens. But all Leicester fans want to do is sell them and replace them with someone worth £30m, no matter who it is.
Fox 4 Life Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 9 hours ago, Redouane said: I hope the reports that Leicester will ignore all communication with Roma are true. What kind of lack of professionalism is this? Monchi! He did the same at Sevilla, absolute cretin.
Guest Col city fan Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 17 minutes ago, Simi said: Agree. Can't believe how many Leicester fans are so quick to jump on the backs of players that have a bad game or run of games. It happens. But all Leicester fans want to do is sell them and replace them with someone worth £30m, no matter who it is. Did the aforementioned all want to leave Though? That, for me is the issue here. We all know Mahrez can be our best player, but he wants to go. His love of playing for us, has gone. Seriously...why can't people see this? It does not usually work out well that a player is forced to stay at a club, when they don't want to be. And yes, City ARE forcing Mahrez to stay by not accepting bids for him. The.....situatuon.....needs......resolving
RumbleFox Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 13 hours ago, Steve Earle said: Christ knows what most posters on this forum would have made of great Leicester players like Weller, Worthington, Glover, McAllister, Collymore etc. Every single one of them could have an off day. Every single one of them could look disinterested. And love them as I do, not one was as gifted as the wonderful Mahrez. Simply the most astonishingly talented player I've seen in 50+ years. Mahrez to...stay!?? I tend to agree. I do think though, if he does stay and we want him to be happy we maybe need to tweak his role so he is not expected to do so much of the donkey work. He needs more attacking freedom and he will flourish. The problem is managing to do this without sacrificing our team ethic or our overall style. If we could figure this out (possibly a formation change) we could benefit from his talents again I think. I don't always think it is even a lack of effort (Did he not cover more ground that all but about 3 people in the Arsenal game) but more to do with him just not being very good at tackling and a certain amount of frustration. I think he feels slightly shackled by our system. I know some people will say he should "man up and put in a shift" and whilst I agree than work ethic is key I just think players are so different. you wouldn't say to Morgan "man up and go past 5 people then caress the ball into the top corner". Different players have different roles. If you asked me if I would rather have a team full of Albrightons or a team full of Mahrezes I would pick Marc all day long but if there was an option of a team with 8 Marcs and 2 Riyads you would have to be mad not to chose that. Whatever happens, he has been pivotal in our recent success and it has been a pleasure to watch him. X
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 Roma bidding again? Trying the oldest trick in the book saying "I need to hear back by x date otherwise I'm not interested anymore". Date passes and they crawl right back around again Jokers
mozartfox Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 33 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Did the aforementioned all want to leave Though? That, for me is the issue here. We all know Mahrez can be our best player, but he wants to go. His love of playing for us, has gone. Seriously...why can't people see this? It does not usually work out well that a player is forced to stay at a club, when they don't want to be. And yes, City ARE forcing Mahrez to stay by not accepting bids for him. The.....situatuon.....needs......resolving We are NOT forcing him to stay though. If a sensible bid comes in, the Club will sell. At the moment this has not happened. Mahrez must accept that LCFC are not in existence for his benefit.
Gerard Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 27 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Did the aforementioned all want to leave Though? That, for me is the issue here. We all know Mahrez can be our best player, but he wants to go. His love of playing for us, has gone. Seriously...why can't people see this? It does not usually work out well that a player is forced to stay at a club, when they don't want to be. And yes, City ARE forcing Mahrez to stay by not accepting bids for him. The.....situatuon.....needs......resolving We are not forcing him to stay, no one has met our valuation of him. I don't mind selling Drinkwater at £35m because that's probably the ceiling of his worth but Mahrez could go for £100m+ at some point. What do you suggest that we sell one of our star players to the highest bidder regardless of price? I think the club have been very reasonable allowing Mahrez to leave but with his CV and three years left on his contract we want what I consider a very reasonable £50m. When you consider Sigurdsson has gone for £45m and has never got anywhere close to reaching the heights of the Algerian. If Mahrez wants his move he's going to have to up his game to somewhere near the standard we all know he can play. It's not for the club to have a fire sale on him and accept a paltry fee just to keep a player happy that we deemed worth a £110k a week contract.
ClaphamFox Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 36 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Did the aforementioned all want to leave Though? That, for me is the issue here. We all know Mahrez can be our best player, but he wants to go. His love of playing for us, has gone. Seriously...why can't people see this? It does not usually work out well that a player is forced to stay at a club, when they don't want to be. And yes, City ARE forcing Mahrez to stay by not accepting bids for him. The.....situatuon.....needs......resolving This is exactly the kind of mindset that Roma is trying to force the club into - "Hey Leicester! Listen to what Mahrez wants - and then sell him to us at a massively below market value rate!" We need to stand firm and insist on a fair price. Otherwise they can fcuk off.
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 I think mahrez would do well as a CAM he is a good passer of the ball and it would make way for albrighton to play with his right foot and give gray more of a chance
st albans fox Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 36 minutes ago, DatfoxesKid23 said: I think mahrez would do well as a CAM he is a good passer of the ball and it would make way for albrighton to play with his right foot and give gray more of a chance This is true where the opposition don't have physical holding midfielders - where they do (and this is the case in many prem teams), he tends to get muscled off the ball before he can get going with it.
Guest Col city fan Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 52 minutes ago, Gerard said: We are not forcing him to stay, no one has met our valuation of him. I don't mind selling Drinkwater at £35m because that's probably the ceiling of his worth but Mahrez could go for £100m+ at some point. What do you suggest that we sell one of our star players to the highest bidder regardless of price? I think the club have been very reasonable allowing Mahrez to leave but with his CV and three years left on his contract we want what I consider a very reasonable £50m. When you consider Sigurdsson has gone for £45m and has never got anywhere close to reaching the heights of the Algerian. If Mahrez wants his move he's going to have to up his game to somewhere near the standard we all know he can play. It's not for the club to have a fire sale on him and accept a paltry fee just to keep a player happy that we deemed worth a £110k a week contract. Yes we are forcing him to stay. By over-valuing him. Any sale of a player must hit a compromise between what the club feel that player is worth and what the player wants to do. A club could value a 30m player at 100m if they chose to. But there'd be no point in doing so. You'd get no offers and you'd still have the 'unhappy player' at the club. Mahrez has stated on more than one occasion he wants out. The club need to value him realistically (it can't be realistic at the moment...we are getting no bids anywhere near what the club value him at) and let the player go. That way, we get a realistic fee and we sell an 'unhappy player'. Of course, if Mahrez should do a uturn and state he's changed his mind, the scenario changes completely. I've always felt that target figure would be around 35 mill. That would be under what the club seem to value him at, but would probably seal the deal. The current situation suits nobody.
Nick Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 3 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Yes we are forcing him to stay. By over-valuing him. Any sale of a player must hit a compromise between what the club feel that player is worth and what the player wants to do. A club could value a 30m player at 100m if they chose to. But there'd be no point in doing so. You'd get no offers and you'd still have the 'unhappy player' at the club. Mahrez has stated on more than one occasion he wants out. The club need to value him realistically (it can't be realistic at the moment...we are getting no bids anywhere near what the club value him at) and let the player go. That way, we get a realistic fee and we sell an 'unhappy player'. Of course, if Mahrez should do a uturn and state he's changed his mind, the scenario changes completely. I've always felt that target figure would be around 35 mill. That would be under what the club seem to value him at, but would probably seal the deal. The current situation suits nobody. 40 million of GTFO.
Gerard Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: Yes we are forcing him to stay. By over-valuing him. Any sale of a player must hit a compromise between what the club feel that player is worth and what the player wants to do. A club could value a 30m player at 100m if they chose to. But there'd be no point in doing so. You'd get no offers and you'd still have the 'unhappy player' at the club. Mahrez has stated on more than one occasion he wants out. The club need to value him realistically (it can't be realistic at the moment...we are getting no bids anywhere near what the club value him at) and let the player go. That way, we get a realistic fee and we sell an 'unhappy player'. Of course, if Mahrez should do a uturn and state he's changed his mind, the scenario changes completely. I've always felt that target figure would be around 35 mill. That would be under what the club seem to value him at, but would probably seal the deal. The current situation suits nobody. We bought Slimani for £30m Sigurdsson has been sold for £45m Coutinho valued at £100m+ It's our prerogative to value the player to what we think he's worth. Looking at the prices paid and quoted for the above three players I don't see how anyone can say what we're asking for is "unrealistic". Mahrez has reached heights those three players have got nowhere near. He's 26 with three years left on his contract and probably is one of the world's top 100 best paid players. You only have to look at his salary to see how much we value him. We have every right not to bend over backwards to accommodate Mahrez and have the price dictated to us.
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Guest Col city fan Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 5 minutes ago, Gerard said: We bought Slimani for £30m Sigurdsson has been sold for £45m Coutinho valued at £100m+ It's our prerogative to value the player to what we think he's worth. Looking at the prices paid and quoted for the above three players I don't see how anyone can say what we're asking for is "unrealistic". Mahrez has reached heights those three players have got nowhere near. He's 26 with three years left on his contract and probably is one of the world's top 100 best paid players. You only have to look at his salary to see how much we value him. We have every right not to bend over backwards to accommodate Mahrez and have the price dictated to us. It doesn't matter a jot what we bought other players for. I'm sure you agree the 30 m for Slimani deal is looking like we had our pants pulled down? Yes? And the Neymar transfer has blown any notion of sensibleness and financial expediency out of the water. I'm fundamentally of the view that it doesn't usually work out well if a club keeps an unhappy player. The market is dictating that we are having no bids near to what the club value him at. That looks to be around 50m. So, one last time, there needs to be a compromise to some extent, in terms of fee. The club COULD hold out for nearer 50 m and this COULD end up in a formal bid. But it might not too. If it doesn't, we are left with a sometimes great player but one who doesn't want to be here...and no transfer fee whatsoever. Fine margins.
Blue Collar Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: We are NOT forcing him to stay though. If a sensible bid comes in, the Club will sell. At the moment this has not happened. Mahrez must accept that LCFC are not in existence for his benefit. I don't know who is "we" but it's obvious LCFC is not willing to sell. Mahrez is showing to be weak-minded and lacking fighting spirit, maybe it's the pressure of everything happening too quickly. He should stay and prove his talent once again, impose his views and how he should be used, show a bit of leadership... this shy/nice/pious lad mentality has no place in football anywhere... if you don't believe me watch Me Myself and Irene.
Ecdysiast Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 If the Arse come in with a serious offer for Riyad, would anyone take Callum Chambers plus cash? He plays right back and centre back, which could solve a couple of our problems quickly, with the window about to close.....
leicesterlad1989 Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 40 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Yes we are forcing him to stay. By over-valuing him. Any sale of a player must hit a compromise between what the club feel that player is worth and what the player wants to do. A club could value a 30m player at 100m if they chose to. But there'd be no point in doing so. You'd get no offers and you'd still have the 'unhappy player' at the club. Mahrez has stated on more than one occasion he wants out. The club need to value him realistically (it can't be realistic at the moment...we are getting no bids anywhere near what the club value him at) and let the player go. That way, we get a realistic fee and we sell an 'unhappy player'. Of course, if Mahrez should do a uturn and state he's changed his mind, the scenario changes completely. I've always felt that target figure would be around 35 mill. That would be under what the club seem to value him at, but would probably seal the deal. The current situation suits nobody. The £50m is what we value him. You only have to look at the sale of Sigurdsson for £45m to see how expensive a potential replacement for Mahrez would be. Personally neither Sigurdsson or Mahrez are anywhere near what their respective clubs value them but then again Neymar isn't worth what PSG paid for him. It's a messed up market and the inflated prices of other players will effect what we value Mahrez at. The situation isn't ideal but should the window close and he's still a Leicester player, he will have no choice but to knuckle down and prove his worth. He doesn't have to even show loyalty to the club, the fans or the owners but he has to respect the contract he's signed and the money he's earning and do his job. If he performs his job well, then he will get a move. The more of his contract he runs down, his value will drop anyway I'd imagine. The club can't do right from wrong in situations like this. We lost Kante ridiculously cheap and we have over paid players, Slimani being a prime example, yet when we stand firm people expect the club to cave in and accept a lesser offer.
ClaphamFox Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 21 minutes ago, leicesterlad1989 said: The £50m is what we value him. You only have to look at the sale of Sigurdsson for £45m to see how expensive a potential replacement for Mahrez would be. Personally neither Sigurdsson or Mahrez are anywhere near what their respective clubs value them but then again Neymar isn't worth what PSG paid for him. It's a messed up market and the inflated prices of other players will effect what we value Mahrez at. The situation isn't ideal but should the window close and he's still a Leicester player, he will have no choice but to knuckle down and prove his worth. He doesn't have to even show loyalty to the club, the fans or the owners but he has to respect the contract he's signed and the money he's earning and do his job. If he performs his job well, then he will get a move. The more of his contract he runs down, his value will drop anyway I'd imagine. The club can't do right from wrong in situations like this. We lost Kante ridiculously cheap and we have over paid players, Slimani being a prime example, yet when we stand firm people expect the club to cave in and accept a lesser offer. If only us message board contributors could agree on a common position on issues such as this, the club would have clear guidance on what the fans think and could act accordingly. Is that really too much to ask?
urban.spaceman Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 30 minutes ago, Ecdysiast said: If the Arse come in with a serious offer for Riyad, would anyone take Callum Chambers plus cash? He plays right back and centre back, which could solve a couple of our problems quickly, with the window about to close..... No.
Outfox the Fox Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 1 hour ago, Ecdysiast said: If the Arse come in with a serious offer for Riyad, would anyone take Callum Chambers plus cash? He plays right back and centre back, which could solve a couple of our problems quickly, with the window about to close..... Yes.
Guest Col city fan Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 1 hour ago, Ecdysiast said: If the Arse come in with a serious offer for Riyad, would anyone take Callum Chambers plus cash? He plays right back and centre back, which could solve a couple of our problems quickly, with the window about to close..... Yes. Not that I'm a big fan of Chambers, but he's a better deputy than some we have at the club. 35 mill plus Chambers. Yes
Redouane Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 52 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: If only us message board contributors could agree on a common position on issues such as this, the club would have clear guidance on what the fans think and could act accordingly. Is that really too much to ask? LCFC is not a fan owned club, the owners could care less about what I or any of you have to say xD
filbertway Posted 16 August 2017 Posted 16 August 2017 Wonder if he'll get his head down and try to start looking like a decent footballer again. I remember in the championship and first couple of years in the prem, I used to get excited when Mahrez was near the ball. Since the title win I'm just expecting him to give possession away cheaply and usually moan at the ref before slowly picking himself up/ jogging back.
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