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Jimothy

Jimothy

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Wymsey said:

Just knew that the Mendy thread would be open to controversy and was rightly closed.

Is calling out homophobia controversial?

Unabomber

Unabomber

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Wymsey said:

Just knew that the Mendy thread would be open to controversy and was rightly closed.

Surely controversial threads are the best 

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Wymsey

Wymsey

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Facecloth said:

Is calling out homophobia controversial?

No, but it was getting to the point where it was getting quite heated.

Jimothy

Jimothy

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

No but I would say defending it is 

Oh, all I saw was people calling him out for it.

 

Is Thracian back?

FoxesDeb

FoxesDeb

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Just knew that the Mendy thread would be open to controversy and was rightly closed.

I don't know which surprises me most, the fact that I managed to refrain from posting in it, or that it lasted as long as it did lol

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Wymsey

Wymsey

Posted
Posted
Just now, FoxesDeb said:

I don't know which surprises me most, the fact that I managed to refrain from posting in it, or that it lasted as long as it did lol

My exact thoughts.

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adejo92

adejo92

Posted
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

What happened? 

 

What did I miss?

 

I need to know!!!

Adults arguing over a player not wearing a rainbow shirt.

 

Edited by adejo92
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Daggers

Daggers

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Willing to bet those people defending homophobia are the same who refused to get vaccinated, believe in chemtrails and voted for Brexit. 
 

And are all already on my block list. 

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Fox92

Fox92

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, Daggers said:

Willing to bet those people defending homophobia are the same who refused to get vaccinated, believe in chemtrails and voted for Brexit. 
 

And are all already on my block list. 

And probably the first to critcise a player not wearing a Poppy on his shirt.

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Saxondale

Saxondale

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We are often told we should ‘shop local’ because it’s the virtuous thing to do. Buy why?

 

I don’t see why we should be socially obligated to support a business just because we happen to share the same postcode.

 

There’s an image that pops up on social media every now of then of a sign outside a shop saying something along the lines of “When you shop local, you’re not helping a CEO to buy his second yacht, you’re helping a little girl get her dancing shoes, a little boy to go on his school trip…[etc.]”
 

This is sentiment is simplistic and obtuse. It’s predicated on a number assumptions:

 

1) All ‘local’ business are struggling to make ends meet, and not creaming an absolute fortune

2) All corporate business are making a fortune and a ripping everybody off, including their customers, staff, etc.

3) By shopping out of you area, you are shopping with a large corporate, not an SME that happens to be based outside your locality

 

…none of which are necessarily true. In fact there are many SMEs that are run by absolute bastards, who make a fortune. Likewise, there are many corporates that treat their staff well and invest a lot in social value. Furthermore, large businesses support large numbers of jobs.

 

Economics aside, the other argument for ‘shopping local’ is carbon footprint. However, I don’t think this argument is valid either. With modern, highly efficient logistics, the dare say the carbon footprint of your parcel coming from - for example - London is smaller than if you drove into town to visit the ‘local’ shop. Even more so as your local shop has probably had those goods delivered to it.

 

The carbon footprint argument is only really credible if you walk or cycle to your local shop, and purchase an item that has been made by them on site.

 

This argument is going to sound like some hardcore capitalism, but it really isn’t - it’s just a criticism of some perceived wisdom. Obviously I’m not saying we shouldn’t shop local, just that it’s not necessarily the correct thing to do by default.

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Izzy

Izzy

Posted
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39 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

We are often told we should ‘shop local’ because it’s the virtuous thing to do. Buy why?

 

I don’t see why we should be socially obligated to support a business just because we happen to share the same postcode.

 

There’s an image that pops up on social media every now of then of a sign outside a shop saying something along the lines of “When you shop local, you’re not helping a CEO to buy his second yacht, you’re helping a little girl get her dancing shoes, a little boy to go on his school trip…[etc.]”
 

This is sentiment is simplistic and obtuse. It’s predicated on a number assumptions:

 

1) All ‘local’ business are struggling to make ends meet, and not creaming an absolute fortune

2) All corporate business are making a fortune and a ripping everybody off, including their customers, staff, etc.

3) By shopping out of you area, you are shopping with a large corporate, not an SME that happens to be based outside your locality

 

…none of which are necessarily true. In fact there are many SMEs that are run by absolute bastards, who make a fortune. Likewise, there are many corporates that treat their staff well and invest a lot in social value. Furthermore, large businesses support large numbers of jobs.

 

Economics aside, the other argument for ‘shopping local’ is carbon footprint. However, I don’t think this argument is valid either. With modern, highly efficient logistics, the dare say the carbon footprint of your parcel coming from - for example - London is smaller than if you drove into town to visit the ‘local’ shop. Even more so as your local shop has probably had those goods delivered to it.

 

The carbon footprint argument is only really credible if you walk or cycle to your local shop, and purchase an item that has been made by them on site.

 

This argument is going to sound like some hardcore capitalism, but it really isn’t - it’s just a criticism of some perceived wisdom. Obviously I’m not saying we shouldn’t shop local, just that it’s not necessarily the correct thing to do by default.

ARE YOU LOCAL? - Edward and Tubbs | Meme Generator

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Daggers

Daggers

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Saxondale said:

We are often told we should ‘shop local’ because it’s the virtuous thing to do. Buy why?

 

I don’t see why we should be socially obligated to support a business just because we happen to share the same postcode.

 

There’s an image that pops up on social media every now of then of a sign outside a shop saying something along the lines of “When you shop local, you’re not helping a CEO to buy his second yacht, you’re helping a little girl get her dancing shoes, a little boy to go on his school trip…[etc.]”
 

This is sentiment is simplistic and obtuse. It’s predicated on a number assumptions:

 

1) All ‘local’ business are struggling to make ends meet, and not creaming an absolute fortune

2) All corporate business are making a fortune and a ripping everybody off, including their customers, staff, etc.

3) By shopping out of you area, you are shopping with a large corporate, not an SME that happens to be based outside your locality

 

…none of which are necessarily true. In fact there are many SMEs that are run by absolute bastards, who make a fortune. Likewise, there are many corporates that treat their staff well and invest a lot in social value. Furthermore, large businesses support large numbers of jobs.

 

Economics aside, the other argument for ‘shopping local’ is carbon footprint. However, I don’t think this argument is valid either. With modern, highly efficient logistics, the dare say the carbon footprint of your parcel coming from - for example - London is smaller than if you drove into town to visit the ‘local’ shop. Even more so as your local shop has probably had those goods delivered to it.

 

The carbon footprint argument is only really credible if you walk or cycle to your local shop, and purchase an item that has been made by them on site.

 

This argument is going to sound like some hardcore capitalism, but it really isn’t - it’s just a criticism of some perceived wisdom. Obviously I’m not saying we shouldn’t shop local, just that it’s not necessarily the correct thing to do by default.

Tldr: Saxondale got banned by his local.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Saxondale said:

We are often told we should ‘shop local’ because it’s the virtuous thing to do. Buy why?

 

I don’t see why we should be socially obligated to support a business just because we happen to share the same postcode.

 

There’s an image that pops up on social media every now of then of a sign outside a shop saying something along the lines of “When you shop local, you’re not helping a CEO to buy his second yacht, you’re helping a little girl get her dancing shoes, a little boy to go on his school trip…[etc.]”
 

This is sentiment is simplistic and obtuse. It’s predicated on a number assumptions:

 

1) All ‘local’ business are struggling to make ends meet, and not creaming an absolute fortune

2) All corporate business are making a fortune and a ripping everybody off, including their customers, staff, etc.

3) By shopping out of you area, you are shopping with a large corporate, not an SME that happens to be based outside your locality

 

…none of which are necessarily true. In fact there are many SMEs that are run by absolute bastards, who make a fortune. Likewise, there are many corporates that treat their staff well and invest a lot in social value. Furthermore, large businesses support large numbers of jobs.

 

Economics aside, the other argument for ‘shopping local’ is carbon footprint. However, I don’t think this argument is valid either. With modern, highly efficient logistics, the dare say the carbon footprint of your parcel coming from - for example - London is smaller than if you drove into town to visit the ‘local’ shop. Even more so as your local shop has probably had those goods delivered to it.

 

The carbon footprint argument is only really credible if you walk or cycle to your local shop, and purchase an item that has been made by them on site.

 

This argument is going to sound like some hardcore capitalism, but it really isn’t - it’s just a criticism of some perceived wisdom. Obviously I’m not saying we shouldn’t shop local, just that it’s not necessarily the correct thing to do by default.

As an adjutant to this, carbon emissions caused by shipping have risen significantly in recent decades, but this is most likely down to increased population resulting in increased demand, rather than the logistics used. It is indeed likely that sourcing everything "locally" across the world would result in a similar carbon footprint to what exists now, though it's impossible to be sure.

 

It shows the real target for reduction needs to be manufacture and energy generation, as opposed to transportation (though making that more green would of course be welcomed too).

SeCrEt FoX

SeCrEt FoX

Posted
Posted
57 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

As nice as the song is, Sweet Caroline must be one of the most over-rated songs ever.

And I absolutely cannot stand it now. It's everywhere! Even the Willy Hill advert pisses me off. Its nearly as bad as Jess ****ing Glynns music as its been over played on everything. Sends me crackers. 

Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

As nice as the song is, Sweet Caroline must be one of the most over-rated songs ever.

Imagine the royalties this one song earned Neil Diamond. Add this to Red Red Wine and I'm a Believer and what a fortune he made1

The Blur

The Blur

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, Corky said:

Burnley will be missed in the Premier League more than people think and were good for the league.

 

Do expand on that- I would be interested to hear more.  

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