Name a better option than puel

[Happy Fox]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

So much disrespect on here for Puel, we're an embarrassment of a fanbase to be quite honest. Granted it clearly isn't working out here which I don't believe is all his own doing although a couple of decisions (mainly Dragovic) are mystifying. But to call the guy clueless or a clown is simply ridiculous given his record at the French clubs, overachieved massively with Lille and Nice, took Lyon to the Champions League Semi Final and won the Ligue 1 with Monaco. To quote Nigel Pearson, there are rather a lot of delusions of grandeur around this place.   

 

Not a patch on Ranieri.

[Lionator]

2 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

I'd want the owners to be thinking CL next season, I read in tabloids Benitez's name has been mentioned an after yesterdays result i'd be open to that. I know thats ambitious CL but with money an a top top manager why not.

Because in the last 15 years, how many clubs outside of the rich six have made the Champions League? Everton once and ourselves. We're competing against teams with endless supplies of money and huge incomes from foreign markets which we simply don't have. They have better squad depth than ourselves and can afford and attract better players. Seventh is our ceiling, anything over that and it is a huge overachievement, there is a reason why us winning the league was the greatest moment in the history of the Premier League, because it'll never happen again for a club of our size. It's ok to dream however let's not think that we're something that we're not.

[st albans fox]

18 minutes ago, Lionator said:

. To quote Nigel Pearson, there are rather a lot of delusions of grandeur around this place.   

Did he mean FT? 

[Lionator]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Did he mean FT? 

No but it can be applied to our fanbase.

[dylanlegend]

26 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Because in the last 15 years, how many clubs outside of the rich six have made the Champions League? Everton once and ourselves. We're competing against teams with endless supplies of money and huge incomes from foreign markets which we simply don't have. They have better squad depth than ourselves and can afford and attract better players. Seventh is our ceiling, anything over that and it is a huge overachievement, there is a reason why us winning the league was the greatest moment in the history of the Premier League, because it'll never happen again for a club of our size. It's ok to dream however let's not think that we're something that we're not.

Very true. 

 

Some fans on here just don't seem to understand this. 

 

However, one of the big things I would say is you just want to enjoy watching your team and be 'entertained'.

 

At the minute we are playing boring as fcuk football, with a boring manager. I can't even be arsed to watch us these days. 

[MC Prussian]

36 minutes ago, Lionator said:

So much disrespect on here for Puel, we're an embarrassment of a fanbase to be quite honest. Granted it clearly isn't working out here which I don't believe is all his own doing although a couple of decisions (mainly Dragovic) are mystifying. But to call the guy clueless or a clown is simply ridiculous given his record at the French clubs, overachieved massively with Lille and Nice, took Lyon to the Champions League Semi Final and won the Ligue 1 with Monaco. To quote Nigel Pearson, there are rather a lot of delusions of grandeur around this place.   

Like I said, Puel isn't a bad manager. But just not made for the Premier League.

He failed to connect at Southampton and it's happening again, right here, right now.

 

All the success that he had was back in France, his league title with Monaco already 18 years ago when he was still fairly fresh as a manager and closer to the players in terms of age (38), the Champions League semi-final ten years later followed and marred by a falling out with the Lyon president and Puel getting the sack with a year left on his contract. Two great years with a club like Nice were overshadowed by two disappointing ones.

 

Just as much as some of the criticism aimed at him is ludicrous, let's not equally overly exaggerate Puel's magical ability as a manager.

Your CV can be impressive as it wants to be, it doesn't prevent you from committing mistakes or being a failure in a new job.

[MC Prussian]

45 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

I'd want the owners to be thinking CL next season, I read in tabloids Benitez's name has been mentioned an after yesterdays result i'd be open to that. I know thats ambitious CL but with money an a top top manager why not.

Sorry, but you need to check your glasses.

 

A club like Leicester is unlikely to play Champions League football again in the decades to come. 7th is what we realistically can strive for, unless one or more Top Six teams magically underperform massively during a season.

 

Before we can even dream of playing in Europe again, there's many different construction sites at the club right now that need our attention.

[foxinsocks]

33 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Because in the last 15 years, how many clubs outside of the rich six have made the Champions League? Everton once and ourselves. We're competing against teams with endless supplies of money and huge incomes from foreign markets which we simply don't have. They have better squad depth than ourselves and can afford and attract better players. Seventh is our ceiling, anything over that and it is a huge overachievement, there is a reason why us winning the league was the greatest moment in the history of the Premier League, because it'll never happen again for a club of our size. It's ok to dream however let's not think that we're something that we're not.

Look its the owners who have to set reasonable goals and expectations.  When vichai hires the next manager he has to set these.  As fans all we can do is shout out..and over egg things.... but we are not the ones who set the aspirations set out by the owner.

Part of being a football supporter is to emotionally invest and spend  time arguing over what's going on.  And long may it be so.  I spend more minutes on ft in a season than i do sitting at the kp.

Now.. i would expect vichai to be sitong regular top 8 finishes over the next 5 seasons.

But i would also expect him to send clear messages on what is the minimum level if performance. (Top half).. and to intervene whblen we are dropping points to clubs in the bottomhalf. ...  As this is unacceptable.

 

So... realistic yet with standards to show we will not accept relegation form over 8 games.   Thats what i exiect of our owbers.

On this based they shiuld sack puel immediately.  Leave appleton in charge. ... and engage an external consultant to bring in the  right guy.

They should let rudkin go. .if only to bring in new eyes to update the infrastructure...including revruitment.

That's leadership.  

 

[Ian Nacho]

On 28/04/2018 at 00:47, smudger63 said:

We have people moaning about how dull and boring it is watching us play under Puel, and then wanting us to bring in Dyche, who`s Burnley side have only scored 35 goals all season, 14 goals less than us!

 

I think the main problem with us at the moment is that we're too easy to beat, whereas, Burnley are really difficult to beat.

[Ian Nacho]

56 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

I'd want the owners to be thinking CL next season, I read in tabloids Benitez's name has been mentioned an after yesterdays result i'd be open to that. I know thats ambitious CL but with money an a top top manager why not.

More likely to be fighting for the Championship opposed to the Champions League next season.

[LittlethorpeFox]

53 minutes ago, Lionator said:

So much disrespect on here for Puel, we're an embarrassment of a fanbase to be quite honest. Granted it clearly isn't working out here which I don't believe is all his own doing although a couple of decisions (mainly Dragovic) are mystifying. But to call the guy clueless or a clown is simply ridiculous given his record at the French clubs, overachieved massively with Lille and Nice, took Lyon to the Champions League Semi Final and won the Ligue 1 with Monaco. To quote Nigel Pearson, there are rather a lot of delusions of grandeur around this place.   

We are an embarrassment of a fan base mate. We were spoiled with that title and it’s bred the most know it all, priveledged idiots i’ve Ever known 

[MC Prussian]

11 minutes ago, LittlethorpeFox said:

We are an embarrassment of a fan base mate. We were spoiled with that title and it’s bred the most know it all, priveledged idiots i’ve Ever known 

Not true.

 

Our fanbase has become much more heterogenous in a short period of time, meaning it consists of many different fractions that haven't that much in common.

You have your loyal local supporters - I suppose they are the most reasonable out of all.

You get the loyal supporters from outside of Leicestershire, traveling to the KP on a regular basis, no matter what the distance.

You get your fairweather fans.

 

And we have our international fans - remember that our Facebook following has increased by a factor of 15 (!) since our Championship days. We're now at 6.5 million!

We have more and more fans from Africa (Algeria, Nigeria, Ghana), Asia (Thailand, Japan), Europe (Austria, Germany, Italy) and North America (USA, Canada) than ever, for example.

 

Obviously, in there are many (younger) fans who don't really know Leicester as a club, know little or nothing about our history, don't really care, only follow certain players (see the Algerians and Mahrez, Nigerians and Ndidi/Iheanacho) and have the most unrealistic expectations one can have.

They know us from winning the league title and playing in the Champions League, that's it.

 

So, you may be right in some ways.

Doesn't alter the fact that it's pretty skewed and some fans giving others a bad reputation in the moaning and unrealistic expectations department.

 

A true LCFC supporter would never expect us to repeat what we did in 2015/16. We out of all fans ought to know better.

Edited 29 April 2018 by MC Prussian

[Old Fox]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

So much disrespect on here for Puel, we're an embarrassment of a fanbase to be quite honest. Granted it clearly isn't working out here which I don't believe is all his own doing although a couple of decisions (mainly Dragovic) are mystifying. But to call the guy clueless or a clown is simply ridiculous given his record at the French clubs, overachieved massively with Lille and Nice, took Lyon to the Champions League Semi Final and won the Ligue 1 with Monaco. To quote Nigel Pearson, there are rather a lot of delusions of grandeur around this place.   

To be successful in France at a time where there was maybe 3 top clubs and general standard was Championship against being a manger in the most competitive league in the world.

 

Miles apart and he has had two bites at it with clubs with decent squads and has showed a complete lack of understanding at our club in my opinion.

 

I don’t agree with hiring and firing but he is completely the wrong fit for us and has shown it and I would not trust him with our most important preseason and transfer window since the owners took over.

 

No unrealistic expectations amongst the majority of fans who understand the potential and how poor the Top 6 are except for City and Liverpool.

 

We can carry on being little ol Leicester after two great seasons for some but thankfully our owners have different ideas.

 

the guy is clueless accept it and move on.

[Donut]

We are an absolute disgrace right now.

Having a French manager who tells you to play football slightly differently, and whos training methods might be slightly different to someone elses dont make you lose a game FIVE nil and look absolutely woeful and off the pace.

Im more sick of the people that represent the club than the manager. You absolutely know when they start to be criticised, they will magic some effort from somewhere. Like when Puel was appointed and we played some absolutely beautiful football. Yet a few months down the line, he has become public enemy number one and the players look like they hate him.

Those players that take to the field in Leicester shirts are useless. Thats the long and short of it. Yes, ill be eternally grateful that they won the title two seasons ago. But its in the past, its getting further and further away, and its not coming back.

They are unmotivated, lacking in basic skills, and have zero pride in themselves. It doesnt take a manager giving Churchillian speeches in the dressing room to motivate people, motivation is from within and its obvious some of the players couldnt care less about looking embarrasing, or their own footballing ability.

So where do we go now? I am a Puel supporter but that ship has sailed. He will be sacked inevitably.

Do we look for a manager whos going to play our "style"? that style doesnt even work. It was getting us relegated in Ranieri's second season until Shakespeare had a little bounce. Then this season we looked trash again until another little bounce.

You might laugh, but we need Sam Allardyce. Im not joking.

We need a man who will pump it forward at every opportunity and try and keep it tight at the back. A man who is also a specialist in keeping teams up too. Because the fans want this brand of atrocious football to come back and without MAJOR, MAJOR investment and moving people out, we are going to be right in the middle of a relegation battle next season. Its staring us in the face.

When you look at a team like Palace, and realise without the 7 game head start, they are better than us in almost every area of the pitch, theres massive, massive problems. They can create, they can pass the ball, they can defend when they need to, they can mix their game up depending on the situation and the opponent. I havent seen us do that in months.

And whenever the new manager comes in, he will convince us he is the answer when we get a few early wins and itll all go wrong. Thats the sad thing, we will be having this exact conversation at some point next season unless there are major changes here.

Puel had the impossible task, but at least beyond doubt he has shown without change, this club is royally screwed and hes shown the new manager exactly what he will have to deal with here.

[MC Prussian]

1 minute ago, Donut said:

Long rant, absolving the manager from all responsibility.

Why do you continue to persist with the notion that it's all the players' fault, as if 10+, 20+ players magically decided to revolt against a manager with a skewed history in the Premier League and who demonstrably cannot connect to players and fans alike?

 

The situation is by far more complex than you'd like to make it out. I have addressed this, others have done the same. Club management and players are equally responsible for the mess we're finding ourselves in right now. That we should acknowledge fully.

 

The second part of your post reads like an extreme version of the Doom & Gloom Guide To Leicester City FC 2018-2019.

Nothing, absolutely nothing indicates that we will be worse off without Puel in charge next season.

 

The club is caught in a massive rut and it will take the effort from everyone involved to find out of it again.

[Foxhateram]

We're a shambles right now. Crossing the ball constantly with all our CFs out on loan,  forced to play players out of position due to lack of squad depth and playing youth teamers who are no where near ready, because weve sent our squad players out on loan. 

 

We really could have done with the stability of Kingy yesterday. You don't know what you've got until its gone I suppose. 

 

It's a bloody mess. We don't have a style at all, no identity, our home form is atrocious and our away form isn't much better. The last 10 games we have been in relegation form and half our better players are about to leave in the summer. 

 

WE NEED TO CHANGE THE MANAGER AND THE RECRUITMENT TEAM. 

 

PUEL AND RUDDERS OUT!!! 

[Col city fan]

[JohnLennon]

If Puel gets the sack now, he will have been sacked from with a 8th place and 9th place finish with two clubs who have spent most of the last decade outside the Premier League. 

[Matt]

2 minutes ago, JohnLennon said:

If Puel gets the sack now, he will have been sacked from with a 8th place and 9th place finish with two clubs who have spent most of the last decade outside the Premier League. 

Would it make it look better and more justified if we waited till the end of the season when he's took us down to 12th (Or can we finish lower than that) then?

 

Bare in mind you could call pretty much the whole of the bottom half a relegation battle this season up until the last couple of weeks, it's good job we were safe weeks ago/games have run out because we've gone from challenging for 7th to being almost dragged into the bottom half/relegation battle in the matter of weeks.

 

Positions do not tell the full story.

 

With almost a blink of an eye we've gone from being 3 points behind Burnley in 7th to what i'm predicted in terms of points that we'll be closer to the relegation zone than 7th come the end of the season and in reality we've been treading water and losing the battle for the whole of 2nd half of the season.

[hackneyfox]

3 hours ago, gogogoagan said:

CR was just a virtual manager, when he has to take control in his second season the team lost it way.

You should take a closer look at the changes to both personnel and tactics under Ranieri.

Your love of NFP is clearly blinding you to the facts.

[Sly]

2 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Like I said, Puel isn't a bad manager. But just not made for the Premier League.

He failed to connect at Southampton and it's happening again, right here, right now.

 

All the success that he had was back in France, his league title with Monaco already 18 years ago when he was still fairly fresh as a manager and closer to the players in terms of age (38), the Champions League semi-final ten years later followed and marred by a falling out with the Lyon president and Puel getting the sack with a year left on his contract. Two great years with a club like Nice were overshadowed by two disappointing ones.

 

Just as much as some of the criticism aimed at him is ludicrous, let's not equally overly exaggerate Puel's magical ability as a manager.

Your CV can be impressive as it wants to be, it doesn't prevent you from committing mistakes or being a failure in a new job.

..... jus ask any Arsenal fan about Wenger, he’s was a revolutionary when he arrived. He’s not evolved. 

[katieakita]

Chris Coleman now available 

[Ian Nacho]

2 minutes ago, katieakita said:

Chris Coleman now available 

God no.

[The Wizard]

Nigel Pearson's index finger...

[Clever Fox]

2 hours ago, katieakita said:

Chris Coleman now available 

Definitely not. He'd want to bring King back.