Puel

[Rob1742]

2 minutes ago, Tiny earl said:

Absolute cobblers.he DROPPED  Dragovic for Morgan, he picks the floundering Chillwell ahead of Fuchs,

he believes Albrighton can defend with only  Mahrez in front of him and he takes our best performer off at half

time oh and he can't gat a tune out of Silva.

Wake up!!

 

 

This - how can you drop Dragovic after a clean sheet and replace with Morgan who has been dropping clangers.

 

He said last match he needed to see Drag before his loan is up to assess him. Well he saw him, he kept a clean sheet, he was very good, then he drops him. 

 

The blokes a tool. 

Edited 28 April 2018 by Rob1742

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

36 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

Anyone remember when I said he should be gone in February. Got a right blasting for it. Started a thread and got knocked down. Told ya

It’s nearly May, you’re well out!

[Matt]

4 hours ago, Beechey said:

Should the coaches be off the hook as well? It also can't be a surprise that this is the third manager it's happened under and we've made no major changes to the backroom staff

Without a doubt no, they shouldn't be off the hook!

 

They should be accountable and like I said in another thread earlier we seem to be one of not many clubs that keep the backroom staff or promote from within when a manager gets sacked. I don't get it.

 

Schmeichel for one major example, his kicking is shit, it's always been shit, why hasn't it been sorted? Worked on? Maybe it has, maybe he's just shit with distribution but it seems like nothing has been flagged up and worked on.

 

Without a doubt the whole club need an overhaul, within the playing and non playing staff every single member needs looking at, even so Puel still needs to go, all I am saying is it goes deeper than Puel.

 

Right through to recruitment, it'll be 3 years...THREE years this summer that the defence has needed strengthening and we bought Maguire, thats it, oh and Dragovic in on loan, but failed to use him - seemingly Puel's choice, whether he doesn't want to commit or not, you use your best 11.

[Beechey]

6 minutes ago, Matt said:

Without a doubt no, they shouldn't be off the hook!

 

They should be accountable and like I said in another thread earlier we seem to be one of not many clubs that keep the backroom staff or promote from within when a manager gets sacked. I don't get it.

 

Schmeichel for one major example, his kicking is shit, it's always been shit, why hasn't it been sorted? Worked on? Maybe it has, maybe he's just shit with distribution but it seems like nothing has been flagged up and worked on.

 

Without a doubt the whole club need an overhaul, within the playing and non playing staff every single member needs looking at, even so Puel still needs to go, all I am saying is it goes deeper than Puel.

 

Right through to recruitment, it'll be 3 years...THREE years this summer that the defence has needed strengthening and we bought Maguire, thats it, oh and Dragovic in on loan, but failed to use him - seemingly Puel's choice, whether he doesn't want to commit or not, you use your best 11.

I still find it amazing that we've had no other right back in the team other than Simpson for 2 years. Surely logic dictates you want 2 players per position, and yet we've only had 1 in that position for like what, 3 or 4 transfer windows. In the same period we've purchased like 5 strikers.

Edited 28 April 2018 by Beechey

[WoodyFox]

As soon as all the 'sacking' talk sets in it's very difficult for a manager to turn it around, especially someone like Puel who doesn't really seem to have any passion.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

2 minutes ago, WoodyFox said:

As soon as all the 'sacking' talk sets in it's very difficult for a manager to turn it around, especially someone like Puel who doesn't really seem to have any passion.

I’ve seen more passion in a ****ing resignation letter

 

Go Fraud Puel GO

[LittlethorpeFox]

9 hours ago, Vacamion said:

 

 

Sorry. I disagree. Not all of us unanimously.

 

This isn’t going to be popular    but I still think that the owners should hold off from sacking him.

 

Yes, today was awful. Yes, we were already pretty uninspiring when we had 11 men, away to a side still needing to fight when we are already safe. But we were only utterly, bone-crunchingly awful towards the end, with 10 men, by which point the game was long gone.  A late (and late season) surrender like the Spurs game last year.

 

What if, from our position of safety, we could write this off as a bad day at the office?

 

What if we could accept that Puel’s selection and our playing style has indeed been ropey over recent months, but also acknowledge that it ain’t really Puel’s team yet?

 

What if we could recognise that mid table in the Premier League was dreamland for us, just a few short years ago, and was quite optimistic - see the “finishing 8th” thread - when Puel first arrived?

 

What if Puel could stay, and then clear out the dressing room in the Summer, and actually forge his own team?

 

What if we could accept that any incoming manager would face exactly the same problems, if they are not allowed to clear out the old guard and forge their own team and style?

 

What if Leicester City didn’t have a managerial revolving door, which will only lead us one way?

 

I suspect I may be entirely on my own, but madly, and with wild optimism, and despite the pelters and criticisms  I will doubtless receive in here for saying this, I say :

 

Puel in.

 

 

 

 

 

I think I better go and barricade myself in the Safehouse.... 

 

 

file

Fair play on your optimism but we were awful all game today 

[nnfox]

I have a feelng that I might be in the minority, but I don't really see the point in getting rid of Puel.  Pearson took a long time to build a great squad, signed some great players (and some doggo ones).  Then Ranieri picked up that squad in its prime and started the season with some new faces - Fuchs, Kante, Okazaki, Benalouane and Inler and the rest is history.

 

I saw in the West Ham game thread that someone suggested the starting XI should be that from the title winning season (including DD and Kante), and here lies the problem.  We have been absolutely spoilt by the journey we have been on but we can't turn back the clock.

 

The owner's have brought Puel in to close the chapter on this particular golden age of our club and write a new one that leads to long term premier league sustainablilty where we can challenge for silverware and compete for European places.  We are at the end of the chapter, the team is in transition.  Puel is building a team and it is going to take a couple of years to get to where he wants to go.  It will be a team without Simpson, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs, Mahrez, Okazaki, Vardy and maybe Schmeichel - they will all be gone by the end of the 19/20 season, if not before.  It will be a team based around (if we can keep them) Maguire, Gray, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Silva  We have to accept that it might be a bumpy road getting there.  One of the reasons that Puel has been brought in, is to get some end result from the academy that was heavily invested in years ago.  As a fan, there is nothing better than seeing a player graduate from academy to the first team.  Some won't make the grade, some will.  But given some of the absolute dross that we have spent loas of money on over the past couple of years, I don't see the problem with chancing our arm with some of the academy players, instead of going out and paying 10, 20 30 million+ on players who still might not be quite what we're looking for.

 

Don't get me wrong, you can't win anything with kids , and we will need to buy players in this summer.  We probably need 4 defenders, 1 or 2 wide players and a striker.  We will buy some of those and use the academy too.  But whoever it is, they will likely need time to bed in. 

 

Puel said himself just last week that from now until the end of the season (because we are safe, but have nothing to play for) we have an opportunity to test new tactics and give some game time to some of the youngsters.  I would rather any manager did this fact finding mission when we have the luxury of it not really mattering, rather than having to do it when we absolutely need the points.

 

There is no way Puel will be sacked now.  Even if he was and we managed to get Pep in with Ancelotti, Zidane, Mourinho and Ferguson in his prime as back room staff, they would still be faced with the same problem of having to rebuild the squad and would have to do it without really knowing the depth of the squad and academy that Puel has.

 

Puel will have spent some time identifying targets for this summer, he will know where he needs to strengthen and he has a long term plan that is shared with, and supported by, the owners.  He is going nowhere just yet and will definitely be given the summer and beyond.

 

It is a frustrating period, but everytime we go through a dodgy patch of form, we can't change the manager and keep the players.  This time, we need to keep the manager, keep faith in the club, trust that there are things going on in the background for the betterment of Leicester City and realise that we are at the beginnings of a new long term strategy.  There will be some sad farewells and some up and down performances but the club will go on.

 

The alternative is to stick with the players and style that has brought success in the past, only replacing like for like when needed and watch the results like WBA, Stoke, West Ham and Southampton.

[LestaAl]

Puel has lost the dressing room, most of the fans and some of the media

 

i see little or no evidence that will change, the owners will recognise this and act.

 

would you want him as your boss even if he spoke better English.

[WigstonWanderer]

11 hours ago, drofmor55 said:

He only took over in October...of a club trying to dramatically change its playing style  ..of a club whos best player didnt want to be here..of a club who had put players on long term contracts after winning the title and were no longer under pressure to perform ..of a club who had made some very poor signings in the transfer window...and there are people on here slaughtering him...personally i think we need someone willing to throw the hairdryer in the dressing room...he has given the players a more than fair chance to show their worth..., those that have'nt may now be needing to duck 

Be better to throw it In the team’s bath

[Guest Cujek]

13 hours ago, Matt said:

it's his second language after all....

I wouldn't take a job in France unless my French was damn near perfect.

 

The guy is just a joke.

[Cropwellfox]

You’ve just got to hope the owners have seen enough of this clown. They explained Shakeys departure as ‘early promise not shown consistently evident in the months since’ which is exactly the same as Puels time here - arguably since the end of Jan it’s not been evident at all other than 20 minute spells when we’ve been chasing games. So if they are consistent he’s got to be pushed although I have a suspicion they won’t pull the trigger just yet. What a wasted season this has turned out to be. 

 

 

[nnfox]

18 minutes ago, Cujek said:

I wouldn't take a job in France unless my French was damn near perfect.

 

The guy is just a joke.

You would if you were offered £2m a year.

[VLC86]

8 minutes ago, Cropwellfox said:

You’ve just got to hope the owners have seen enough of this clown. They explained Shakeys departure as ‘early promise not shown consistently evident in the months since’ which is exactly the same as Puels time here - arguably since the end of Jan it’s not been evident at all other than 20 minute spells when we’ve been chasing games. So if they are consistent he’s got to be pushed although I have a suspicion they won’t pull the trigger just yet. What a wasted season this has turned out to be. 

 

 

At least the press release is already written.

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, nnfox said:

I have a feelng that I might be in the minority, but I don't really see the point in getting rid of Puel.  Pearson took a long time to build a great squad, signed some great players (and some doggo ones).  Then Ranieri picked up that squad in its prime and started the season with some new faces - Fuchs, Kante, Okazaki, Benalouane and Inler and the rest is history.

 

I saw in the West Ham game thread that someone suggested the starting XI should be that from the title winning season (including DD and Kante), and here lies the problem.  We have been absolutely spoilt by the journey we have been on but we can't turn back the clock.

 

The owner's have brought Puel in to close the chapter on this particular golden age of our club and write a new one that leads to long term premier league sustainablilty where we can challenge for silverware and compete for European places.  We are at the end of the chapter, the team is in transition.  Puel is building a team and it is going to take a couple of years to get to where he wants to go.  It will be a team without Simpson, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs, Mahrez, Okazaki, Vardy and maybe Schmeichel - they will all be gone by the end of the 19/20 season, if not before.  It will be a team based around (if we can keep them) Maguire, Gray, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Silva  We have to accept that it might be a bumpy road getting there.  One of the reasons that Puel has been brought in, is to get some end result from the academy that was heavily invested in years ago.  As a fan, there is nothing better than seeing a player graduate from academy to the first team.  Some won't make the grade, some will.  But given some of the absolute dross that we have spent loas of money on over the past couple of years, I don't see the problem with chancing our arm with some of the academy players, instead of going out and paying 10, 20 30 million+ on players who still might not be quite what we're looking for.

 

Don't get me wrong, you can't win anything with kids , and we will need to buy players in this summer.  We probably need 4 defenders, 1 or 2 wide players and a striker.  We will buy some of those and use the academy too.  But whoever it is, they will likely need time to bed in. 

 

Puel said himself just last week that from now until the end of the season (because we are safe, but have nothing to play for) we have an opportunity to test new tactics and give some game time to some of the youngsters.  I would rather any manager did this fact finding mission when we have the luxury of it not really mattering, rather than having to do it when we absolutely need the points.

 

There is no way Puel will be sacked now.  Even if he was and we managed to get Pep in with Ancelotti, Zidane, Mourinho and Ferguson in his prime as back room staff, they would still be faced with the same problem of having to rebuild the squad and would have to do it without really knowing the depth of the squad and academy that Puel has.

 

Puel will have spent some time identifying targets for this summer, he will know where he needs to strengthen and he has a long term plan that is shared with, and supported by, the owners.  He is going nowhere just yet and will definitely be given the summer and beyond.

 

It is a frustrating period, but everytime we go through a dodgy patch of form, we can't change the manager and keep the players.  This time, we need to keep the manager, keep faith in the club, trust that there are things going on in the background for the betterment of Leicester City and realise that we are at the beginnings of a new long term strategy.  There will be some sad farewells and some up and down performances but the club will go on.

 

The alternative is to stick with the players and style that has brought success in the past, only replacing like for like when needed and watch the results like WBA, Stoke, West Ham and Southampton.

If our team is in part built around Gray then we could be in trouble. For me, he’s a part of the problem. He’s done nothing this season after being given significant game time by Puel. 

[Fox92]

24 minutes ago, Cujek said:

I wouldn't take a job in France unless my French was damn near perfect.

 

The guy is just a joke.

Pochettino couldn't speak English when he first moved to Southampton. 

[VLC86]

16 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Pochettino couldn't speak English when he first moved to Southampton. 

It didn’t take him long to learn it though.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

We are so lucky the Premier League is so terrible otherwise we’d be relegation fodder.

[Fox92]

2 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

We are so lucky the Premier League is so terrible otherwise we’d be relegation fodder.

We will be next season, I have no doubt about it.

[norwichfox]

so...basically, we're all saying Southampton were right.....in spite of their position.

Edited 29 April 2018 by norwichfox

[chapero82]

1 minute ago, norwichfox said:

so...basically, we're all saying Southampton were right.....in spite of their position.

Yes they were right! The problem they have is that afterwards is they got an even worse manager and never replaced there sold players! 

[Greg2607]

5 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

Yes they were right! The problem they have is that afterwards is they got an even worse manager and never replaced there sold players! 

Welcome to LCFC 2018/2019

[chapero82]

13 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Welcome to LCFC 2018/2019

That will still happen if we keep Puel! Did we replace the players we let go in January? I still don’t know why we didn’t get another target  striker in! All those crosses for a 5ft 11 striker  

[Greg2607]

12 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

That will still happen if we keep Puel! Did we replace the players we let go in January? I still don’t know why we didn’t get another target  striker in! All those crosses for a 5ft 11 striker  

I agree.  Next season is one where we need to change our fan mindset. We won't be competing for Europe.

 

Ironically, outside of winning the league, this could be our highest placed finish since promotion.

 

Sad it's been achieved against a backdrop of declining performances and discontent. 

[wurmer]

The rot has set in, clearly lost the dressing room.

 

Dint care about this season - we are in big trouble already next season unless we sort this!

 

Changing some of the players won’t fix that, unless we change ALL of them, which isn’t going to happen.

 

Bye bye Claude.

 

Edited 29 April 2018 by wurmer
Coz I felt like it